Pretty Americentric line of thought considering us dirty gaters have international "membership", but this also applies to the West in general.
Call it China or the Globalists -- 'and' is probably more appropriate, but there's been a deliberate decades long attack on our educational institutions, our government, our economy, the Christian religion, our borders, Communist infiltration of key positions in government and industry, etc. etc. etc.
And it's been so effective, I just don't see a reversal of course. Even if the moderate collective pulled the wool from their eyes and took action, we're still due for an economic implosion as the debt bubble eventually pops, and we'd have to deal with the indoctrinated masses who would violently resist being jacked out of the Matrix.
Personally, by this point I'm not even thinking about saving the republic, but rather what actions will need to be taken to build something better from its ruins.
No, and I don't want it too.
The second the constitution was interpreted to grant franchise to everyone without regard to civic duty (ie, when women were given the vote without considering that it is ALWAYS and RIGHTLY men that get drafted to fight), the country was done. If our leaders at the time had been worth spit they would have burned the constitution right there and come up with a new document that wouldn't have led to the same conclusion.
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id say the country was done the moment the Federal Reserve was created.
That's another good one. There's a lot to be angry at Wilson over.
The policies of Woodrow Wilson, FDR and Lyndon Johnson have destroyed America.
Truly the three worst U.S. presidents due to the severity of the negative impact they had on the country.
Lincoln as well. Destroyed the notion that it's a union of sovereign states. Secession needs to always be available as an option to avoid political warfare.
I'm surprised brexit was allowed to happen (though I wonder if the "sudden appearance of a mutated strain of wuflu" isn't punishment for it), but probably only because the EU can go on denying it's a "united states of Europe", because it allowed something the USA didn't. But since it came about due to popular vote, it would have looked terribad if the EU had done anything about it ...
Ha! Someone doesn't remember the EU founding - voted against transforming the EEC trade body into the super-government of the EU? We'll just make you vote again, and again, and again until you give the correct answer.
That's the EU's preferred form of "democracy".
That's part of why I was so suspicious of the "Look, let's just have another Brexit referendum" crowd. It's a very EU way of basically discounting democracy. Hold fifty votes, pick the one that went your way, claim the support of "the people".
The EU just held a fireworks show over London. The UK is conquered and there is nothing that can be done about it.
To be honest, there was no possible way for Brexit to end any other way than peacefully. The entire European continent was purposely emasculated and rendered a permanent non-threat on the global scale militarily by the US after WWII. The only exception to this was France with their policy of "if any foreign power ever steps foot on our soil again, we are going to destroy the entire fucking world". But even then, France cucked out completely after de Gaulle's death. The military of virtually every Western European country was purposely designed to be absolutely incapable of direct offensive action without support from the US. This goes for every nation that subsequently joined NATO over the years as well.
The US was serious about permanently ending the possibility of war between European powers. As long as NATO exists, the European capacity for unilateral military action will be pretty much nonexistent. This is why I always laugh about the desire for some Europhiles to form a combined European military.
The South wanted to keep their slaves so they got what they deserved!
It's funny how progressives adopted the Confederate version of the war's origin story. During the war, every progressive in New York would have mistaken you for Johnny Reb and knocked your teeth in. The Nothern narrative was that the war started to save the union.
all democrats
Hoover gets a place on the Wall of Shame too, for creating the New Deal. The democrat's 1932 campaign platform is not what one would expect. FDR ran against New Deal policies before he could take credit for them.
JFK was a good democrat. . He tried to create an American currency and return the United States currency system back to what it was before the Federal Reserve was created . And he was assassinated.
While the media was trying to rabble-rouse over his being Catholic, which a lot of Americans probably didn't really give a duck about.
There's actually a long thread of suspicion towards catholics in American tradition. Some of it is based on the fact that the country was founded by English protestants, and England doesn't have a friendly history with the Papists. The rest of it is based on the structure of the Catholic Church, which essentially makes the Pope a global Emperor. It was a serious and important question for a long time - if the Pope supports one thing, and the electorate supports the opposite, which will be done?
Wilson was just a bad person in general
The country was improved significantly when he had a stroke.
I try to tell people about the Fed and their eyes glaze over sadly.
I can believe that.
The average normie wants to be fed nice sounding lies not any harsh truth.
Mine used to do the same hearing snippets of ol' Ron Paul.
To the average person, thinking is not only difficult, but painful.
The average person does not want to be free, he wants to be safe.
I would say it was with Andrew Jackson's push to remove property requirements for voting.
I would prefer a woman business owner be allowed to vote and an indigent man not.
For married couples if one doesn't work the other should get two votes. If both work then each should get a vote.
I used to think I was sexist and racist but now I realize I'm just classist.
You do realize that the lower classes are a bulwark against wokeness and the hatred for your country?
If anything, the wealthier segments have far too much influence on politics, which is why we see so much focus on BLM, climate change and other stuff that affects no one's life.
I remember reading some two-bit sci-fi dime novel about a President who deliberately nukes the biggest cities in the country to deliberately get rid of the uber-liberal city folk, and force a more agrarian lifestyle to return. I seem to recall the end of it describing a farmer with his donkey cart in the aftermath. Can't remember what it was called, though.
Communist cambodia?
If that happened some globalist would buy a patch of land and sell tiny chunks to an army of wokelings to get around that.
We need to make sure everyone is fully aware of problems, not take away their ability to vote.
An interesting way of looking at it- I would say what you described is more like meritocracy than classism. But then when you look at the groups that most consistently reach the top in a meritocratic system, it tends to somewhat validate the racism/sexism viewpoint. But then there's the argument that it would be wrong to disenfranchise a legitimately gifted individual from a group that was on average poor performing. I guess that's a really long winded way of saying that I mostly agree.
Not only do we need some level of sacrifice to obtain citizenship, but we also need greater disparity between the citizen and the noncitizen. It's not just citizenship as a birthright or prize of marriage that devalues it, it's also the lack of incentive. Noncitizens should not be able to own land or businesses, or benefit from social programs and citizen protections. As terrible as this comes off, maybe we should have had distinct rights for noncitizens that created greater desire to be a citizen.
it's not women's suffrage, it's universal suffrage.
the founding fathers had set up a system of no representation without taxation as the federal government at the time could only collect property taxes and only land owners could vote.
Of course common law at the time made husbands the property owner, so almost all women couldn't vote, but the feminists forget that many men couldn't vote either and that a few single women were property owners and could vote.
I say bring it back, in some form, if you aren't a net tax payer, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. Bring back no representation without taxation.
I put the blame on Hart cellar and the radicalization of education in the 60s.
You are Rome in 132 BC.
I've always held that we're in a Weimar period. The lockdowns are doing their best to get us to the hyperinflation part.
A Cigar Stream from Academic Agent a few weeks ago was pretty interesting. Went through writings from the 1930s and 1940s about the Weimar Republic, including English, Nazi German, and non-Nazi German perspectives. It was... Eery.
I watched a few episodes of Babylon Berlin; it's decent. There is woke rewriting of history, such as a cop who gets shot by his kid while in bed and blames it on commies for a commendation, but it does a good job portraying the raw degeneracy. The writers are obviously progressives, although they are so detached from the plebs that I don't think they realize how bad it makes them look.
Rofl that moment when Charlemagne said "Wait, this is exactly what we believe."
I need to regularly watch Malice in order to counteract the deep dark void that is the Charlemagne black pill.
Would you happen to have a link? I've been enjoying his stuff but I've been falling behind lately
It's behind his paywall now, unfortunately. I think it's well worth the money, though. Here's a link to the Youtube version.
I also recommend today's Cigar Stream.
Funny, Tiberius Gracchus sounded like a total commie.
Not really, that's what communists claim. In reality, he just wanted to enforce a law that had already been passed in 367 BC, which limited the amount of public land (ager publicus) that someone could own, and to give that to landless members of the urban mob instead. In part because this meant that they were eligible for the army.
Guess we're going to discover our Marius and Sulla before long...
We needed Sulla yesterday.
-Plutarch, Life of Sulla
Not without widespread bloodshed.
The Republic can be saved. Its current borders cannot.
Assume that Pence and the Congress don't manage to turn things around, and Harris/Biden is inaugurated this month. In such a case, the states that signed onto the proper side of Texas v. Pennsylvania should make a joint declaration that the organization claiming to be the US government in Washington, D.C. is illegitimate, and take steps to form a legitimate one. This map shows that there are clear land borders between the United States of America and the Democratic Cities of American Communist China.
Here are the steps:
The fundamental goal of this plan is to give the military that overwhelmingly supports the National Populist movement enough legitimacy that they can feel like they obey their oaths when defending the Republic against Chinese pawns. Use the time that gives us to stop the bleeding, and let the cancerous limbs die. America can recover, and it can do so without losing the international game in the long term. It will require heroic will from a lot of politicians, and I'm not sure they all have it.
I'm not sure any of them have it.
Any who don't need to be replaced by people who put themselves forward.
This is what is needed but our politicians don't have the will.
Republican legislatures in AZ, PA, GA, MI and WI cucked out on merely sending a slate of certified pro Trump electors in light of massive fraud.
I don't expect them to do what is neccessary to rectify the current hellscape.
No, but it can be rebuilt once the parasites are expelled.
No income tax. The right to vote must be earned. Gun rights or bust. Either no "affirmative action" hires, or AA hires can only be whites who are qualified for their job but were born poor.
Honestly I think they broke the Pendulum and it's now flying off a cliff to the left.
Has the pendulum ever swung right in the US?
Depends on the issue. Generally, it has slowed its leftward swing and sometimes been stilled for a period of time, but has not swung right in a long time.
There was a right-leaning backlash in the 1980s that slowed the pendulum swing but ultimately went nowhere since Reagan and HW Bush were sellout neoliberals underneath their thin veneer of nationlist rhetoric.
Before that, maybe a few years post-WW2 from the late forties to mid fifties.
The last true "rightswing" of the pendulum on a national scale would probably be somewhere around the time of the Second Great Awakening, and even then that was mainly on social issues, not neccesarily policy or economic issues.
I think after we "won the west" in the 1890s, was when the leftward shift really began. They replaced Manifest Destiny rhetoric with economic and social rhetoric that had a leftward slant.
No, but it can be reset, to something more akin to what it was when it started. The constitution and original Bill of Rights can stand as is, and we can gradually work towards something stable. But once that happens, the tax system as we know it will perish, as trust in the government will be gone, and would have to be EARNED before they can tax us at these levels ever again. Talking “military-funding tax” at most, at no more than 10% of income, because the government can’t be trusted to properly handle more than that.
Taxing income is unconstitutional, flat out. You tax things that people buy willingly because it gives choice. Taxing income is no different than serfdom. There's a reason there was no income tax until the egregious fabian socialists walked into power.
You know what, fuck it, you're right.
Sadly, it is technically constitutional, because they put it into the Constitution at the height of the Progressive Era. This needs to be reversed.
I only think that the only way a reset will be coming is after some dark ages. Probably some kind of global Balkanization or maybe even some conflict in a mass scale.
Sadly a peaceful and civilized is impossible as far as I can see. The rot is simply to deep and ingrained to be cleansed cleanly and permanently.
Something that really shows how fucking useless all this nonsense is.
It all rests on Mike Pence.
It's rather fitting that the man who protected us from women's cult by popularizing avoiding them just as they started weaponizing accusations can be the man to crush their plan forever.
Sadly I think "Lightning Pence" only exists in memes and he will cuck out for the right price.
I don't feel comfortable about that at all.
I like the Pence Rule but the man himself is not too based.
Karen Pence, his wife dominates him. Mike calls her mother. Mike Pence is a mild mannered establishment Republican who is close friends with scum like Paul Ryan.
Hoping that Mike Pence saves America makes me feel a lot less certain.
If Pence was going to sell out, Trump would have died "of Covid-19" a few months ago to give him power.
It would have been a Pence/Haley ticket. I actually thought about it back then, but it never happened, luckily.
We shall see on the 6th.
I want Mike Pence to be the hero we need and not the Brutus we expect.
I've been wrong before. I expected Kavanaugh to save us, but that didn't happen.
I also expected Barrett to be a useless traitor, which she was.
Well I expected Kavanaugh to cuck out ever since the guy hired only female clerks even AFTER the left metooed him.
He is not only a traitor but a very stupid motherfucker.
I always expected Barrett to be somewhat questionable.
I too have been wrong before with my expectation prior to November 3rd that Trump wins the election definitively despite any level of fraud.
I really hope I am wrong this time and that Mike Pence does save us all.
That's really fucking stupid, but it does give a possible redemption for him when it's all over. He might not be a traitor, just a dumb fuck that's in their blackmail book.
What woman hasn't been? People say I'm a sexist for pointing it out, but every pick from Haspel to Barrett has been a loss.
I never expected him to win definitively. I expected it to be close and a possible defeat from white women turning against him.
I don't know how the fuck Biden/Harris supporters genuinely think black men turned out in record numbers for a senile racist and a sexist cop. There's no fucking way.
Every Supreme Court Justice who refused to take the Texas case is a traitor for punting their Constitutional duties.
Kavanaugh does not deserve to be absolved of responsibility for any of his pathetic decisions.
Trump's Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany has been great. She has been Trump's best Press Secretary.
I do agree that there is no way in hell that Biden/Harris got a record number of votes from Black men. Hell they never got a record number of votes from ANY demographic outside of TDS idiots which sadly is still about 70 million people.
Gamergate was a blessing in disguise. It gave gamers a taste of what the left has in store for Western civilization.
In a way, it vaccinated many of us against the neo-Marxist and progressive fascist tactics being used to destroy our way of life.
It's an unpopular opinion, maybe, but:
There are no political options remaining, now that even the vote has been corrupted beyond serviceability. The frank and shocking truth is that anyone wanting to save the republic is going to have to come face to face with "peace" officers that will be used as human shields to defend tyrants. And they are going to have be ok with shooting them in the face.
Yeah, I don't know anyone that would, either. Enjoy the decline into Dark Ages 2. Unlike the original, thanks to technology, the CCP and their puppet governors will never allow another renaissance to occur. The burning of the Library of Alexandria set back humanity quite a bit, but there will be nothing as complete as the burning and warping of our modern era's histories and philosophical writing. Look at how Alex Jones, for all effective purposes, does not exist and will have no records of his existence after all of us are dead. Replace him with anyone who opposes this new order of mass slavery and misery. The vastness of the planet will not save you when stormtroopers can be anywhere in 20 minutes notice to kill your cattle, rape your women, and burn your village to the ground.
What we have today: a middle class, class mobility based on the successes (and failures) of one's own choices, people that can own property, people that can eat food of their choosing and have recreational time to do something other than working for the nobility, is an anomaly. The truth of human life on earth is suffering and pain and subjugation to the greatest sociopaths that broken homes and child abuse can produce.
That's been the case for months now. Police will stand down for the BLM protestors who are actively calling for them to get fired, but will still go after people protesting the lockdowns. Insanity.
No, it isn't. But I do hope some strong Republics come out from the US balkanization.
Curious what thoughts you have on this, as it's something I think about a lot as well. So far my ideas range from a simple "buy acreage and farm" to a complex "found a privately held corporation to build/buy an entire town based on a Hoppean model of an explicit and enforceable social contract that all residents must agree to" (the latter probably being beyond my ambition or ability to raise funding for).
I blame social media. It is an accelerant. Fortunately, it has forced people to notice the world shifting left underneath them.