If anything, you've engaged in good faith effort posting, which I find encouraging.
My time on 4chan more or less made me immune to the problem you're discussing, but I can see where other people less familiar with the internet would have issues with some of the people I don't have problems just shouting at me. Keeping the forum a place where they can feel welcome is a worthy goal.
Having been through the decline of Reddit and watching the leftist version of ideological possession making territory feel hostile, I can see bad faith actors as a problem in forum management. One I had little understanding of prior to your post. Managing right wing ideologues is a different beast, and I appreciate seeing your thoughts on the matter.
Regarding Impy in particular, I have posted "Impy was banned for our sins" and I stand by it. Our inability to engage with him and get him to even acknowledge when we make points contrary to his particular stance... It's our failure as a group to police the dialogue, which leaves that to the mods-- forcing your hand, per your post.
I can see how you'd interpret Impy subversive. I think he's a one-issue pony, and mentally ill. Regardless of motive, how you manage someone who's ideologically possessed and won't stop is pretty simple. It involves boundaries, and enforcing them when transgressed. It won't earn you friends, but it will control the behavior.
At any rate, those are my thoughts. I'm glad you took the time to reply in depth, thank you for doing so.
+1 respect from this user.
A bad one. And one that requires a belief in a basic principle that some words must not be allowed voice. That idea is wrong. All evil must be allowed voice, that it may be confronted, that its flaws may be enumerated, and the person advocating it known and (if possible) corrected. To not do this is allows evil to fester. Even if the intentions of your actions are good, the result is not. Exposure and vigilance are the only defense. Silencing weakens each of our abilities to call out bullshit. We need to hone that ability. We need the practice.
Plus, power corrupts. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Again, exposure and vigilance are the only defense.
I mean. Once you start wondering who the bad guys were in world war 2, why not recognize the great Nazi airship tragedy as also victimizing humanity?
Go full tin foil giga brain with me:
The same forces of global capital that would have serious issues with a nationalist seizure of finance breaking control of fiat currency and the fractional reserve model of banking, would have real issues with an emergent system of cheap rigid air transport fueled and floated with hydrogen obtained via electrolysis. You can commodify and control petroleum so much better than water, after all.
Any attempt to 'fix' culture at this late point will be generational. You're right-- it will take extra generations if it doesn't start at the educational level. The time spent mustering power elsewhere, just to spend the necessary effort gaining control of educational institutions, will be spent by our enemies further shifting the Overton Window to the left. Every graduating class has been more leftist for about a century now. Just to fix the damage done since the 50s by the radicals of the 60s will take sixty to seventy years from current year plus however long it takes to gain the political power to start the process of course correction.
A cultural collapse from these parasites killing their host before we can even regain power seems more and more likely.
Because of the time spent waiting for 'the pendulum to swing back,' we're looking at a cultural field so slanted that parallel institutions forcing direct ideological competition will be faster than the political siege necessary to uproot the ideologues who have taken over education. Hell, traditional westerners might never again have enough political power to effect change on the academy. In that case, parallel institutions might be the only viable strategy moving forward.
I can't imagine anything good happening once the US invasion of Kyushu began and the 1.5 million purple hearts they made started to get handed out in earnest.
As bad as the Nuclear Option was, the alternative was Shattering the Pearl: schoolgirls with spears on the beeches in front of machine gun nests.
I'd almost be okay with implementing social credit, just to give all those chucklefucks a fat, flaming ZERO social credit score so they can eat rice and be pariahs for the rest of time...
But then I remember that a government tool you can use against your enemies will be used against you and yours, so I think tarring and feathering, along with riding them out of town on a rail would suffice.
Spot on. It's not fake. The job is subsidized subversion-- which is quite real.