Now let me preference this by saying it just might be in my algorithm on YouTube and Substack, and of course normie propaganda; but I'm seeing lots and lots of stories and videos of mostly Europeans here for the World Cup who seem amazed by America. And even they seemed surprised how much they are enjoying being here.
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I would say there’s two factors, Europeans are becoming more and more disillusioned with globohomo leftism immigration. The other is anyone but seething mentally ill leftists absolutely loves “flyover country”. Europeans aren’t posting about how “amazing” the big cities are, they’re posting Bass Pro, Buc-ee’s, BBQ, and In and Out. They’re seeing the last bastions of Americana and it speaks to them.
The Buc-ees thing becoming such a cultural hot button is crazy to me. I live on the east coast, nowhere near one, and almost daily I'm hearing liberals cry about it. And like you said, foreigners are praising them. It's weird a gas station and it's market has become a front in the culture war
If you haven’t been to one it’s understandable. It’s like a convenience store on crack. Imagine a gas station with not just a clean bathroom but sparkling clean and 30 urinals. They make fresh brisket in house, fresh jerky, dozens of self brand foods, have everything anyone could need from a convenience store from clothes to everything you could need for camping/vacation and it’s all market price, not jacked up. On top of all of this the employees are like your standard mom and pop BBQ place, it’s pure southern hospitality at its best, everything is with a smile, the place is the antithesis of the inner city gas station with bulletproof glass.
As usual, they're trying to tie it to fascism. And, as usual, all they're doing is making fascism sound appealing.
Funny too because the places they hate like that are the ones that do what they really ask for, but they are still required to hate it because white people! Christian! capitalism!
The things mentioned in the first post here, Bucees and In N Out in particular (I could easily lump in a Chick Fil A too) are known for good employee pay and benefits especially relative to the skill level required, prioritizing customer experience, and are not publicly traded or run by a terrible private equity that would drain it all for max profit.
I see their disdain for such businesses as nothing more than proof they really want the ugly awful world they create not the utopia they claim it will be.
Much like progressivism can never stop tearing down leftism can never be happy or fulfilled. They have “icons” much like any religion, but leftists are never actually happy people.
Yup, same way the SWPL traveloggers will gush endlessly how great Japan is in the same breath that they call for more diversity and immigration. The question "why would you want to change it if you like it so much?" gets met with a blank stare.
Some of them really are dumb enough to believe Somalis will magically become Japanese right off the boat (we're seeing in real time how that's the opposite of the case). The rest are clinging to their programming because it's all they know.
Truth is they're not even in control. The devil is puppeteering them on strings they can't even see. And they have to keep those vague pangs of nostalgia repressed all the way down as they force a smile like (((Jacob Frey))) eating a plate of Somalian shitkebab.
Yeah, because they're golems.
I was on a train in Chicago near some Brits a couple of years ago and they were just RAVING about Chick-Fil-A. Like, they were organizing their trip to be able to go to another one the next day!
We chatted and we all like Nandos too!
The internet radicalizes.
They also hate how rural the south and midwest are while screaming about environmentalism
Funny enough I drive by Buc-ees all the time and honestly I think it's odd too. I've been in them. I went in the first real giant one some 15ish years ago in New Braunfels. It was pretty novel then.
My opinion of them is if you are on a road trip or mini convoy with a bunch of people, there's really nowhere better to stop than a Buc-ees. If you stop at some Indian convenience store you're going to spend all of your time trying to corral kids and different people into the one disgusting bathroom that the guy before just totally shit all over the place, etc. Buc-ees restrooms alone are worth it in that scenario. The last couple times I went in a Buc-ees it's because nature was calling in an unpleasant way and I knew I could get a nice private almost little room of a stall that would be super clean quickly. The bathrooms really are a sight to behold from a public restroom sense.
Then you have options for everyone in the group. The guy who wants to walk around a bit there's space. The two people who want two totally opposite things and are crabby about it from being cramped in a car, well they can get them.
For me, I'm very often out alone, and Buc-ee's is never where I want it when I'd be the most likely to take a break. It's like right on the edge of towns often, where as I'd be more inclined to take my time if it was in the middle of nowhere. So I really never use them, because I'm a guy traveling alone who can piss in the sea of disgust anywhere and I don't eat a lot of convenience snacks anyway.
If you've seen one crowded brown city, you've seen them all.
That's what I thought too, but I haven't been exactly following it. Because I've heard nothing but complaints from people who visited places like SF or LA, particularly about the druggies - even though there are druggies here too!
I don't really care for football, but as an Englishman, I have always had a special fondness for America. I have always viewed it as an extension of European civilisation in the New World. I hear this a lot from both Americans who visit Europe and Europeans who visit America - we are so VERY similar, from laws, to language, to attitudes, to architecture. Obviously there are differences between us, but in an era where we are both being flooded by ACTUAL aliens with ACTUAL irreconcilable differences, those differences seem petty and insignificant.
In my ideal world, Europe and America would be a lot closer diplomatically and culturally. I think America could stand to revive a European style high culture and appreciation for beauty, roots and tradition over convenience, while Europe needs to learn from America's frontier-born self-reliance, distrust of authority, and masculine independence. Geopolitically I understand why we are sometimes competitors, but I don't think it HAS to be this way. We are the same civilisation, for God's sake, and the same kinds of people want us BOTH erased from history.
I yearn for classical architecture. 95% of the buildings I've seen in my life are boxes or cookie cutter houses. The other 5% are churches, museums and other noteworthy structures built over seventy years ago.
Worshipping in a big 500 year old church with an incredibly high ceiling and choir singing would surely be a soul moving event.
Is your faith so materialistic that this makes an appreciable difference?
Honestly, this has always been one of my biggest gripes with the religious. So few of you actually follow the tenets and principles of your own religions.
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven" applies to building cathedrals and megachurches, too. The point is supposed to be your connection to your god, not how fancy the building is.
I'm guessing you've never been in an old European church. It is, indeed, a moving experience. It's not about wealth. It's about beauty and craft and the idea that we can transcend.
Reminds me of an comment I saw on such churches. The idea was that why would you give God a lesser building? Would you build a grand structure of beauty for yourself like often a lot of these European cities were and then relegate God to a basic structure? It was an honor to God to put the finest craftsmanship and the most attention to detail and beauty in the house of God.
I'm sure there were nefarious dealings involved in some of those churches and sinful acts and what not, because well that has happened in the entire bible from the beginning and likely applies to all such dealings.
I mean if you read the Bible we saw the Juden built massive temples for the Lord and even have a fanciful setup while wandering about.
Even their great gypsy camps had a massive complex meant for burning sacrifices and doing worship routines.
I have zero problems with small, inelegant churches when that is what can be afforded by the congregants, and I'm certain God doesn't either. I don't believe the European cathedrals were meant to glorify man but to be a beacon for the glory of God.
Perhaps I'm not so jaded as others but I'd like to believe they were made for honor and glory.
The counterargument is that it's not actually "God's House". It's not the Temple in Jerusalem. God has the same conversation with David when he tried to build a temple the first time. God has no need for a house on earth, the whole universe is his house. What happens is that the church ends up being a building for men, and men who are servants of God should not have finery and luxury and ostentation. It is better to have the plainest and simplest and cheapest building that will do the job of men on earth serving God, and use the rest for the work itself such as charity.
It's a fair counterargument. I'm not even necessarily in favor of exotic cathedrals although they are nice. I definitely wouldn't be in favor of destroying existing ones hundreds of years old to send some sort of message, but more use them appropriately. Still would definitely say an old European cathedral and a modern megachurch are very dissimilar though.
Pay it no head. The opinions of non Christians on Christianity is without value.
Preserving tradition is the polar opposite of "materialism"
I think this is too simplistic. The point of beauty and art in churches is to give the believers a very imperfect glimpse of heaven and their religion. For example, Saint Mark's dome represents heaven, and in the old Gothic style, it is covered in gold. All the art helped believers, who were historically mostly illiterate, understand the religion, and I think even now it's a way of making things real in a way that they're not when you merely hear stories. It's one thing to hear about the Passion, and quite another to see an Ecce homo.
It's a great experience even when it's a music concert that's given in a church.
And a cathedral does not belong to any one man. It's the possession of the community. Just like city buildings or aqueducts. It doesn't make you rich.
That’s not what the eye of a needle verse is about.
Doesn't matter. If Europeans feel a spiritual connection to vast stone halls then that should be part of the religion. It comes from the soul.
Based. So long as our common enemy considers us all "Amalek" we must stand together and fight as one.
Amen, brother.
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I'd rather have a Eurodog at my back than some nigger or poopjeet any day of the week. As you say, Amerishits and Eurofags are basically cousins at the end of the day.
I'm a big Anglophile myself. It's my second highest ethnic percentage behind Norwegian. I love being connected to English history.
Awesome. You should come and visit if you haven't already. There's still a lot of England that is English outside of the big cities.
I haven't been there yet either, at least not England. Northern Ireland if you want to claim I've been to the UK. It will happen eventually if you guys hold it together in the cities long enough.
I'm finding in all my travels, I almost totally avoid cities now. I might spend a day in a place like London at most. The only thing in them is Instagram stuff anymore (oooh look at this pic of Buckingham Palace) amidst a sea of boring and sketchy. I far more enjoy popping into some random place to eat in a random little village where they don't get tourists pretty much ever, walking around a bit, then looking for some pretty scenery that's more local or at odd times when all the normal tourists are asleep still. Or finding odd museums of random things that would never make a top list on TripAdvisor.
That's exactly what I do in America. I hate American cities, but then I hate all cities. I love small town America, though.
My wife is from rural MI, and when I was first dating her we were out in the countryside and she said 'Let's go for a walk down the road'. I looked at this road, which to me was fairly wide and would be classified as a main road in the UK, and I was like 'Right in the middle of the road?'. Lo and behold, only a single car passed us in about two hours, which we saw coming from miles away. It was then that I really understood the difference in population density between the US and UK. I am from rural England, but even here it's next to impossible to find a road that is that rarely used. It was a very liberating feeling, not to be crushed by the weight of humanity. It was also the first time I saw fireflies in person :D
2020 I ended up on a road trip and in the middle of nowhere in Nebraska. No cell service. With it being the lockdown or whatever I drove for almost an hour without seeing another passing car. Ended up at this cool geologic formation park 30 mins down a gravel road. There was an old guy there that I guess liked it so much he hung out there with his open carried pistol and gave out water and little postcards and told people about the park with absolutely zero attempt to sell our ask for tips or anything. There was one other family out there hiking around like I was and that's it.
That's awesome dude, that's exactly what I love about America. I pray that the globalists don't succeed in just jamming the country full of a billion people because 'Well it's so big it can support that population, and line must go up!'. You would lose so much that is intangible in the process.
That trip specifically would be hard to replicate although the places are all still remote so not busy. That was early enough in the whole lockdown mess that there weren’t a ton of people out in campers crowding things like they did in 2021 yet. So the only people that were out were the ones with the mindset of screw it all I’m going anyway.
Crazy thing is I guess everyone knew that’s all that was out so there was an odd friendliness. I keep to myself usually but I don’t think I ever had so many conversations with just random people/families just before and it was never around politics even during the time. It was just “where are you from”, “where are you going”, “oh yeah we came from that way check out this cool place you should go”
Was it Toadstool Geological Park? I came across the park on a very meandering trip across the country some years back. The only cars I saw were train cars full of coal moving down the line. As you said below it would be hard to replicate that trip but maybe I'll give it a go again before things get really crazy. And, yeah, the people out there are wonderful.
That was it yes. It's super out there but I decided to go from Cheyenne to Rapid City that way just to see it.
Large art museums are a must though, if you're interested in that sort of thing, with the added benefit that there is not much cultural enrichment there.
Yeah, I love classical art so if it's that type I absolutely go see it. The art that is based around beauty. That's probably one of my favorite things if I'm in a city. Old art and old exotic libraries.
If it's one of those modern art exhibits where someone smeared some turds on a canvas or it's just like a statue of a cylinder or something those can stay wherever they are.
Ah, so luxury modern art musea. Normally, you'd expect a banana tied to the wall.
No, fortunately, it's very strictly separated.
It's number one on the bucket list.
Yeah man, we're both whites and we have shared traits. More than we thought of. Many many times more than our ancestors thought of. Thanking the jews for helping me realize that.
Most Europeans have a very caricatured view of America and Americans, and I say that as someone who doesn't particularly like either. I'm sure seeing that there aren't shootings every five minutes is a revelation to them.
The people I've talked to liked it, enough to go back, although they were very disturbed by the state of American cities and the druggie problems - and that even though European cities are hardly pristine anymore. I heard that people liked the waffle places. Well, that is very understandable to me, I wish I had a place dedicated just to waffles here.
For my own view, there is two things that I do love about America: more free speech than we have, and the houses that are enormous by European standards. You will have a beggar family on TV that lives in a larger and nicer house than anyone I know, like the Simpsons or something. Oh, and primaries are pretty great. Here we choose between the people the party leadership decides we get to choose between.
Homer's living situation was the focus of an entire episode, where a "regular guy" infiltrated the show and went insane because of cartoon logic.
https://youtu.be/axHoy0hnQy8
Frank Grimes. His crashout is pretty good.
Homer does have a good paying job as the Nuclear Safety Inspector at the plant. I don't know what the home prices are like in Washington state, that's where the Simpsons takes place. They probably are over their heads considering the 2.5 kids and all.
They didn't use to be, in the 90s when the Simpsons was good.
And everything else was good.
I guess. But this is basically the home you see everywhere, no matter how poor a family is supposed to be.
They'll go back home and go back to ingesting Euro-normie MSM propaganda and forget all of it in a month.
I saw something six months-ish ago of some who were traveling the states and they kept going on about how much they expected terrible things and absolutely loved Texas.
I work with a handful of Irish people every now and then, I was over there a couple years ago meeting them in person and such too. One thing I really have taken from all of the pub discussions or whatever is they really are only presented one side and a tiny piece of the story and it’s all from the anti-America and anti-Trump side. If they were to really get to the truth, they’d have to get on the internet and become like an America-phile and the reality is it’s not their country and they never dig into it further.
There's something to the notion that right wing parties started winning elections in Europe almost the moment USAID dried up. Europeans are maybe the most propagandized people on the planet. Makes sense, when you think about it; they are white peoples in their ancestral homes. There's no reason for them to be self-loathing and culturally suicidal. Such dysgenic behaviors must be inculcated via intense propaganda.
It starts in childhood. Mental and emotional abuse about muh colonialism muh White privilege muh nazis. Every other group on earth takes pride in their ethnic heritage while we're held hostage and tormented by "fellow whites" who gloat over their victory nonstop.
They were on a very long-term upward trajectory. And they're still not winning outright.
How did you get that impression? If you talk to any European, left or right, no one likes immigration. The problem is with the political system. Europeans aren't given a choice.
Because these are normal, well-adjusted Europeans who are discovering America.
When you dig deep into the "anti-flyover" moment, be that urbanists, militant cyclists, vegans, native apologists etc., you will discover that it's commies. Literally all of them. NotJustBikes hung with Keffals, just saying. Everything bad they say about US suburbs is a million times worse in a rotting metropolis. r/FuckCars has a high crossover threshold with communist and degenerate fetish subreddits.
All those Euro fans are discovering is that the picture their mass market media presents to them is 100% fake news, and that the real America, the one they never get to see unless they come over here and see it first hand, or they happen to work with American armed forces at one of our bases there, is 180 degrees the opposite of what they are conditioned to.
Of course they hate the niggers and spics in uniform just like Japs and Koreans do. Everyone should hate the glorified welfare system that the military's become.
People who value health and lifestyle over grinding generally don't like America. Nobody can walk here and there is 0 social interaction for various reasons.
I think as time passes and the reality that the suburbs are now out of reach for most people, the view of America will degrade further. There is also the understanding that America is creating wars and driving up oil prices.
Yeah, and don't forget that these people are staying in little Potempkin Villages for the duration. They don't know what it's like to live here.
Lmao where the fuck do you live
I'd say it's terminally online European leftists, who have a vested interest in tearing down America, influencing opinions. Outside of this obscenely loud minority, Europeans like America and Americans like Europe.
I have to remind myself they have hate speech laws and we're one of few countries they're legally permitted to criticize for any reason at all.
I hate Nigball and i dislike mutt culture
What you see on the screen is highly curated for goy cattle and not sentient Europeans
Unfortunately this is the algorithm pushing propaganda on you. Most Euros hear only the opposite and mostly hate/envy the US.
Preface,not preference. Good post otherwise