WILD take... But if someone is violently insane, to the point where they can't be held responsible for the legality of their actions... They should have rights on par with an animal, not a human. Because that is exactly the legal argument: They're living creatures that need "rights", but aren't intelligent enough to know right from wrong or good from bad.
So they should have the rights of a pitbull performing similar actions.
Judges, more than anybody, are in the business of consequences. That's literally their only job: to determine who is right and wrong and sentence or favor accordingly a penalty of time or money. They won't even do that. They've been consistently sleeping on the job.
When animals attack someone, we put them down. Same should go for people that are too legal mumbo jumbo to make good decisions. The fact is, the combination of their brain and body make them a danger to others. They need to be killed to protect everyone else. End of story.
Right? I never understood the "insanity" defense for that reason.
If they don't have the mental capacity to be held liable for their actions, they shouldn't have been in public in the first place, in the same way you wouldn't allow gorillas to wander the streets.
He should be institutionalised for the rest of his life, period, and that's the soft option.
Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity means that this criminal is now no longer in the domain of the judicial system; He is passed to the Medical System.
If he is sufficiently dangerous that he can kill people; he will go into the forensic mental health wing of a prison, and he will be kept drugged to the eyeballs until he dies. Every time there is a choice between the health of the patient or the safety of the staff, the safety of the staff will be chosen. That means if higher doses of drugs are effective but harm his liver ... well fuck his liver.
I don't live in the USA, but I have worked in the mental health system. I have dealt with schizophrenic murderers before. People who were on court ordered mind-control drugs, but then fled so they could not receive treatment; and then murdered someone.
I have worked with a juvenile Alcohol Spectrum Disorder (retard) sociopath who was too young to stand trial, but regularly attempted to kill his care staff.
The people in this thread who are acting as though this guy is going to just walk out of the court without consequences are being deliberately ignorant of the way people like this are treated by the medical system.
Now, you could have a great discussion about how it would be less expensive to hang him. For what it is worth, I agree. The guy is too dangerous to ever be released and his quality of life is going to be complete shit from now until the day he dies. I would argue that it would be kinder to kill him. That said, I don't trust the courts at all, and I don't like it when they make decisions they can't take back.
Only issue is, have you worked in the US mental health system? If you don’t live there then how would you know it’s the same? Especially in a super liberal area as this. Not saying it isn’t, but after seeing what people get away with now judicially, I don’t trust that this man will do the time he deserves at this point in time. But frankly, I hope he sees what you have described.
WILD take... But if someone is violently insane, to the point where they can't be held responsible for the legality of their actions... They should have rights on par with an animal, not a human. Because that is exactly the legal argument: They're living creatures that need "rights", but aren't intelligent enough to know right from wrong or good from bad.
So they should have the rights of a pitbull performing similar actions.
we put down dogs for less than what he did
We put down gorillas and squirrels for the mere possibility of what they could do, and they were still less than what he did.
If we put down blacks for behaving like this, there wouldn't be any blacks left in America.
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"and that's a good thing" -NYT
new law, if you have dreadlocks, you can't claim insanity.
those take time. effort. planning. and care. they clearly show a mental competence that precludes this defense.
We can't allow fedposting, sorry
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And these assholes will release him back into the public where he will do it again.
That's definitely the plan
Our streets are open air feral nigger pens.
Judges, more than anybody, are in the business of consequences. That's literally their only job: to determine who is right and wrong and sentence or favor accordingly a penalty of time or money. They won't even do that. They've been consistently sleeping on the job.
Try preventing the victims below from reaching the perpetrators above by using right vs wrong pretense as distraction...
So he's a Seattle man, and she's a Korean-American woman? Why isn't he an "African-American" man?
Why the fuck is murdered censored? This is the level of sophistication our society holds?
Jewish censorship on Twitter
Same thing happens when you type "jewish child molester is let go free" the A.I automatically nukes the post
Fuck Jewlon
Not Guilty. Ok cool, hang him anyway because he's not capable of being part of civilization and is a threat.
We once sold postcards of the hangings for no reason at all.
'Better judged by 12 than carried by 6'
Open empathy was a psy op, only allow your empathy apply to those in very close communities and family.
“Get your 6 together to take care of business beforehand so that you’re never judged by 12 in the first place.”
Shoot. Shovel. Shut up.
Stop Asian hate
He should already be dead.
It's a nigger, isn't it?
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Lol, right again.
When animals attack someone, we put them down. Same should go for people that are too legal mumbo jumbo to make good decisions. The fact is, the combination of their brain and body make them a danger to others. They need to be killed to protect everyone else. End of story.
Right? I never understood the "insanity" defense for that reason.
If they don't have the mental capacity to be held liable for their actions, they shouldn't have been in public in the first place, in the same way you wouldn't allow gorillas to wander the streets.
He should be institutionalised for the rest of his life, period, and that's the soft option.
A direct analogy for this is people cannot legally drive a vehicle on public roads unless they have liability insurance.
That or they must have a legal handler who is answerable for their actions.
Friendly reminder: America doesn't have a gun problem, it has a nigger problem.
So if you're black you can do anything you want, provided it is sufficiently insane and undefendable.
And you do it in a liberal city
Just to remind people:
Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity means that this criminal is now no longer in the domain of the judicial system; He is passed to the Medical System.
If he is sufficiently dangerous that he can kill people; he will go into the forensic mental health wing of a prison, and he will be kept drugged to the eyeballs until he dies. Every time there is a choice between the health of the patient or the safety of the staff, the safety of the staff will be chosen. That means if higher doses of drugs are effective but harm his liver ... well fuck his liver.
I don't live in the USA, but I have worked in the mental health system. I have dealt with schizophrenic murderers before. People who were on court ordered mind-control drugs, but then fled so they could not receive treatment; and then murdered someone.
I have worked with a juvenile Alcohol Spectrum Disorder (retard) sociopath who was too young to stand trial, but regularly attempted to kill his care staff.
The people in this thread who are acting as though this guy is going to just walk out of the court without consequences are being deliberately ignorant of the way people like this are treated by the medical system.
Now, you could have a great discussion about how it would be less expensive to hang him. For what it is worth, I agree. The guy is too dangerous to ever be released and his quality of life is going to be complete shit from now until the day he dies. I would argue that it would be kinder to kill him. That said, I don't trust the courts at all, and I don't like it when they make decisions they can't take back.
YMMV.
Only issue is, have you worked in the US mental health system? If you don’t live there then how would you know it’s the same? Especially in a super liberal area as this. Not saying it isn’t, but after seeing what people get away with now judicially, I don’t trust that this man will do the time he deserves at this point in time. But frankly, I hope he sees what you have described.
I have not worked in the US Mental Health system.
If you want to find out how they treat the criminally insane in the jurissdiction in which this tragedy occurred, be my guest.
I have never heard of a western country where the criminally insane were just given a pat on the back and kicked onto the street. Never.
If you are proposing this is what will happen, post receipts. I'd love to learn how things happen in the USA.
Really?
I live in Ontario where we just closed all our insane asylums all at once and put the money into "homelessness"...
The place I live in did that too.
The budgets now come out of the Department of Corrections budget. Major prisons have a forensic mental health wing.
Smaller states negotiate to send forensic mental health patients to another state which has a facility to warehouse them.
People are still locked up for life.
So can we transfer him to the Canadian medical system? Ah, who am I kidding they wouldn't euthanize a black.
I hope they trans him
Does this mean that he spends the rest of his life in a containment ward?