Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity means that this criminal is now no longer in the domain of the judicial system; He is passed to the Medical System.
If he is sufficiently dangerous that he can kill people; he will go into the forensic mental health wing of a prison, and he will be kept drugged to the eyeballs until he dies. Every time there is a choice between the health of the patient or the safety of the staff, the safety of the staff will be chosen. That means if higher doses of drugs are effective but harm his liver ... well fuck his liver.
I don't live in the USA, but I have worked in the mental health system. I have dealt with schizophrenic murderers before. People who were on court ordered mind-control drugs, but then fled so they could not receive treatment; and then murdered someone.
I have worked with a juvenile Alcohol Spectrum Disorder (retard) sociopath who was too young to stand trial, but regularly attempted to kill his care staff.
The people in this thread who are acting as though this guy is going to just walk out of the court without consequences are being deliberately ignorant of the way people like this are treated by the medical system.
Now, you could have a great discussion about how it would be less expensive to hang him. For what it is worth, I agree. The guy is too dangerous to ever be released and his quality of life is going to be complete shit from now until the day he dies. I would argue that it would be kinder to kill him. That said, I don't trust the courts at all, and I don't like it when they make decisions they can't take back.
Only issue is, have you worked in the US mental health system? If you don’t live there then how would you know it’s the same? Especially in a super liberal area as this. Not saying it isn’t, but after seeing what people get away with now judicially, I don’t trust that this man will do the time he deserves at this point in time. But frankly, I hope he sees what you have described.
Just to remind people:
Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity means that this criminal is now no longer in the domain of the judicial system; He is passed to the Medical System.
If he is sufficiently dangerous that he can kill people; he will go into the forensic mental health wing of a prison, and he will be kept drugged to the eyeballs until he dies. Every time there is a choice between the health of the patient or the safety of the staff, the safety of the staff will be chosen. That means if higher doses of drugs are effective but harm his liver ... well fuck his liver.
I don't live in the USA, but I have worked in the mental health system. I have dealt with schizophrenic murderers before. People who were on court ordered mind-control drugs, but then fled so they could not receive treatment; and then murdered someone.
I have worked with a juvenile Alcohol Spectrum Disorder (retard) sociopath who was too young to stand trial, but regularly attempted to kill his care staff.
The people in this thread who are acting as though this guy is going to just walk out of the court without consequences are being deliberately ignorant of the way people like this are treated by the medical system.
Now, you could have a great discussion about how it would be less expensive to hang him. For what it is worth, I agree. The guy is too dangerous to ever be released and his quality of life is going to be complete shit from now until the day he dies. I would argue that it would be kinder to kill him. That said, I don't trust the courts at all, and I don't like it when they make decisions they can't take back.
YMMV.
Only issue is, have you worked in the US mental health system? If you don’t live there then how would you know it’s the same? Especially in a super liberal area as this. Not saying it isn’t, but after seeing what people get away with now judicially, I don’t trust that this man will do the time he deserves at this point in time. But frankly, I hope he sees what you have described.
I have not worked in the US Mental Health system.
If you want to find out how they treat the criminally insane in the jurissdiction in which this tragedy occurred, be my guest.
I have never heard of a western country where the criminally insane were just given a pat on the back and kicked onto the street. Never.
If you are proposing this is what will happen, post receipts. I'd love to learn how things happen in the USA.
Really?
I live in Ontario where we just closed all our insane asylums all at once and put the money into "homelessness"...
The place I live in did that too.
The budgets now come out of the Department of Corrections budget. Major prisons have a forensic mental health wing.
Smaller states negotiate to send forensic mental health patients to another state which has a facility to warehouse them.
People are still locked up for life.
So can we transfer him to the Canadian medical system? Ah, who am I kidding they wouldn't euthanize a black.
I hope they trans him