Is this a cult?
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Where's the guy who complains about jpeg posting when you need him most?
A random line graph is not a terribly sturdy starting point for an argument. It's not like history isn't littered with precedents for the govs astroturfing false consensus for the wars they want.
Previous question was "Would you support" most recent is "Do you support".
Trending up anyway, change question from hypothetical support to support of completely successful operation so it spikes up even more.
There's nothing mysterious here, OP is just bad at thinking.
Is it though? The discrepancy between the Republican line and the adult citizen line tells me that the increase is from anti war MAGA supporters abandoning the Republican party. When all that is left are the neocons, of course they will have a hard on for another war.
Do you mean gap? There's no discrepancy. Every line went up, before they got Maduro.
Adult citizen includes Democrats that would oppose Trump even for absolving their sins so that's why it's half as big as Republican.
All public opinion polls are a hoax. The ✡people✡ responsible for creating them at the dawn of the 20th century openly admitted it. They’re completely worthless.
Fair point, but this does contain all the information. It's not like posting a headline.
At least you have the virtue of great optimism.
I gochu, brah
@AntonioOfVenice - Post your source.
It's not cultist behaviour, it's simple non partisan siding with the winner group mentality.
SO FAR it looks like Trump successful got to wave America's dick around, captured a hostile nations president with ZERO costs other than ammunition then made the remaining government there his bitch with no longer term military involvement. Of course people will think positively of that so long as that REMAINS the status quo. It's like how the Iran strikes had people worried till they saw it caused everyone to chill and no further action after.
Tldr: American's prefer seeing their country do a pimp hand with results than a slugging match with costs with their military.
Yeah, this is just do you approve of potentially risky future political action vs. do you approve of current political project that appears to be going well.
Of course people approve when it looks like everything went as cleanly as it seems this did.
You say 'non-partisan' but there is a great partisan divide.
Great timing for this comment.
TLDR: Republicans claim to be opposed to 'regime change' until their cult leader does one.
It isn't just Republicans, it's just that the left are REALLY shit at war.
Name ONE Democratic president that ok'd a successful military operation without saying FDR or the Osama raid as I long suspect they knew where he was the whole time.
Meanwhile Republican, not just Trump now but first term the Iranian general, Bush Sr initially with the Gulf War just should've left after, Regan Operation Praying Mantis. You even give Democrats amen easy win of just stick to a schedule and they STILL fuck it up! (Afghanistan withdraw).
So no it ain't 'just Republicans', Democrats would too just their leaders are shit at it. Hell they're MORE bloodthirsty as look at how much they celebrate their 'enemies' dying like Charlie Kirk or recently Scott Adams..
LOL, did you make Trump violating his promises into a "rawr rawr Republicans are so amazing, they wage the best wars"? Also, I think you missed a Republican between Bush Sr. and Trump.
I didn't say EVERY Republican, only that there are MORE militarily successful Republican presidents than Democrat.
I live by the two statements "speak softly while carring a huge stick" and "hope for the best, plan for the worst"
As thanks to previous sit on their hands policies, we probably CAN'T unfuck it without using force on occasions its just better it's not protracted meat grinder conflict and quick objective based strikes.
Hell just look at another show of force in using ICE they way the US has. There WAS a way to do it without so much force but thanks to previous administration, we need to really deport them with those massive globemaster planes DAILY if we wanted to get on track fast enough.
They're not. How is Bush jr. better than Obama or Clinton on the war question?
Funny, before the election, Republicans were saying that they are the peace candidates and that Kamala, Biden and Hillary are warmonger. Obama too. Now, all of a sudden, we need more war because they didn't wage enough war.
I'm just astounded at how easily people make a 180 degree flip and then pretend like they've always been at war with Eastasia.
They ain't doing squat. All this is for show because they're not deporting anywhere near the numbers they said they would, so they try to make notorious the cases where they do something. At this rate (assuming numbers I've heard, 20 million illegals under Biden and 500,000 deportations this year), it will take 40 years to deport the people let in under the 4 years of Biden alone.
Typical GOPe behavior of doing nothing and pretending to have moved mountains, while the Democrats move mountains and claim that nothing is happening.
They're EVEN with the same amount of civilian casualties, even more maybe with Obama as he loved his drone strikes..
He said he wanted to stop the killing, so take that as 'No wars whatsoever', I'm happy with 'precision strikes on certain targets'. Better than the UK approach of a strongly worded letter...
As for illegals, it won't be enough till like a lot of issues, they IMPEACH SOME ACTIVIST JUDGES as anything less than that is just being a hand sitter.
I'm pretty sure Obama's drones didn't cause nearly as many civilian casualties as the Iraq War. Maybe Libya and Syria did. Clinton didn't have those though.
He denounced neocons, regime change, warmongers, only to flip on a dime. Of course he didn't say "NO WARS EVER", but it's cult-like behavior to pretend that coup'ing Venezuela and bombing Iran was what he ran on.
What are you even talking about?
Still means that they're doing nothing, even if it's out of their control. Which it's not, because Trump said that they want to keep illegals in farming, hotels, and basically anyone who pays him a bribe.
Andrew Jackson. Which doesn't really contradict your point, but...
Eh you tried at least 😅
Invading Iraq had overwhelming Republican support at first, and AFAIK never dropped below 50% the entire time we were there.
While we're having this argument, is Antifa and others a militia?
No. They're text book terrorists as they use terror against their political opponents as a means to enact political change.
So they're a militia that actually does something instead of just sitting on their ass?
A militia doesn't sneak around bashing random peoples head in because they wear the wrong clothing and call the cops if their victim starts bashing their heads in.
If we did then we wouldn't be undergoing a genocide. Violence is power.
If right wingers had government backing too, they could do the same thing as antifa except far better. Antifa does not survive because of convictions or motivations or anything like that. They're still around because the elites back them.
I call them 'enemy combatants' and waiver all geneva conventions protections on them. They make funny noises when they drink gasoline.
Just listened to an Antifa lunatic on X posting a video about how "peaceful protests don't work unless they know that there will be violence to get results, so we need to be violent to make our peaceful protests work."
And no, that's not a strawman of his position.
Antifa is inherently violent. It was created to beat up and kill the political opponents of the Communists in the Weimar Republic. It's in their nature.
Violence is the supreme authority from which all other authority is derived.
Yes.
They explicitly deny they are organized or have leaders, so no.
I'm not entirely sure, I don't know what precisely qualifies as a militia. But I am sure that they all deserve to rot in prison. Is that good enough?
In some states the entire population is considered part of the "militia".
It's one of those words that has a clear definition, but in practice the meaning is murky.
50% of that 74% cannot point VZ on a map and still write Columbia for Colombia
Ben Shapiro said openly that the Venezuela op got people over "Iraq syndrome" and would make it easier to sell more interventions.
That's what I feared. It's as if you need an Iraq every generation to prevent this.
He even said that, referencing Vietnam.
74% of Republicans support anything the fuck Trump does. Even if is contradicts everything they claim they believe in.
It's politics...so, yes.
And now we're doing Iran. :/
I fully support invading the entirety of the rest of both American continents and wiping them clean of all nonwhites. I want all of our handful of remaining white brothers and sisters therein to rise up and join in, too.
But I’d be executed publicly by any “Republican” for supporting that. Because that’s not what they want. They want infinite nonwhite slaves—too stupid to rebel—extracting resources for them for all eternity.
Nah dude, you hate white people...
https://archive.is/gHgFM#selection-1645.109-1645.177
...and you have a panic attack the moment they start breaking free.
https://archive.is/GaaSW#selection-1759.0-1763.87
You will never be White. You will remain ever depressed...
https://archive.is/Jz8QK#selection-2753.0-2753.40
...in a city you claim has a 'soft ban on nonwhites'.
https://archive.is/Ien6b#selection-1667.158-1667.217
Lol.
Normie right leaning people tend to circle the wagons when the perception becomes us vs them. I remember people dropping Yugos from cranes during the airstrikes of the Kosovo campaign. It's why we got freedom fries.
Eh, plenty of NPCs who let party leadership do the thinking for them on both sides of the aisle. But are 74% of republicans really less than 35% of US citizens? Sounds a bit low for a two party system.
Do you support losing trillions of dollars and thousands of lives for nothing, or do you support an overnight operation with no casualties?
I support neither, but then again, I don't have the very large brain necessary to watch Rick and Morty.
Do you think America should be an expanding empire? and I dont watch cartoons
No?
Public opinion can be easily misrepresented, manipulated or outright sold for shekels
trust the experts goy
It's not a cult. Successful military operations get support from the general public. This was one of the least heavily supported military operations going back decades, regardless of it's initial (startling) success.
As Mark Mitchell said, many of Trump's policies are actually more popular than Trump. Even military policies. Foreign policy adventurism actually doesn't help you in the polls (Tail-Wags-The-Dog doesn't actually work in reality); but it can destroy you in the polls if you fuck it up. Truth is that Trump is being distracted by people who are happy to sink the admin after the mid-terms in order to prevent domestic policy improvements while he has the most momentum.
Trump can win the midterms, but he needs tangible economic gains, better messaging, less DOJ black-hole failures, and for congressional Republicans to literally anything ever.
oh boy, another sand war for isreal. get ready goy