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This guy is right, infighting within the dissident right and greater anti-regressive movement is COMPLETELY out of control and we need to start kicking out the trash and settling scores regarding certain subjects in a libertarian manner. (twitter.com)
posted 226 days ago by AbleistSL 226 days ago by AbleistSL +29 / -0
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– OBRIENMUSTSUFFER 35 points 226 days ago +35 / -0

The Jews, either for or against.

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– Niemo 10 points 226 days ago +10 / -0

I posit a positive frame of "our people first and only." All for one and one for all. No dual citizens. No foreign entanglements. White European descent only. No Jews. No Muslims. No Hindus. No bullshit.

It's team us or gtfo. Everything through that lens.

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– AbleistSL [S] 7 points 226 days ago +7 / -0

The jews aren't the ONLY thing people are butting heads over.

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– 1776ReasonsWhy 19 points 226 days ago +19 / -0

Can we highlight it as one of the most contentious/significant subjects? It seems to be an issue divided predominately along generational lines on the Right, with very little room for negotiation in the middle. For many, if Jews/Israel aren't Our Greatest Ally, then we may as well be calling for their extermination.

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– AbleistSL [S] 5 points 226 days ago +5 / -0

I am just going to state when it comes to subjects, you should NEVER underestimate lolicon/shotacon.

Unlike similar crap like feral porn, lolisho* is controversially BANNED in several countries stereotypically under theat of wrongful conviction for child porn possession, hence why people are more likely to butt heads over it.

*I think lolisho is a newer "origin neutral" term for this stuff, while lolicon/shotacon is more applicable to hentai.

Edit: considering the fact I clearly triggered the anti-loli spergs yet again, I am just going to say that the best way to deal with you faggots is to either lynch you if your woke, or dox you so that dangerous third worlders and woke faggots rape and kill you and your friends/relatives, as that is what you all deserve as your bullshit gets innocent people raped and killed.

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– AgnosticTemplar 16 points 226 days ago +16 / -0

Nigger what? That's so low priority I've never even seen it argued. There are plenty on the right who are against porn in general, but who the hell are the ones planting their flag on that hill?

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– AbleistSL [S] 2 points 226 days ago +2 / -0

Infighting over legitimacy produced pornography is completely retarded in my opinion, and lets just say people are willing to throw live action porn production under the bus due to rampant and nasty criminal corruption within said industry.

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– AgnosticTemplar 15 points 226 days ago +15 / -0

Porn getting banned is a price I'm happy to pay if it means purging communist degenerates from society.

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 9 points 226 days ago +9 / -0

No shit, if I was genuinely offered a loyal trad White Christian wife I would've never gotten into porn to begin with.

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– RaisingPhoenix 4 points 226 days ago +4 / -0

And then you lose, because a significant chunk of people fighting against the commies are fine with porn.

So now not only do you not get porn banned, but the commies retain power. Or worse, things schism, porn gets banned but the commies retain power because the anti commie groups lose unity, thus allowing the commies to proliferate as usual

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... continue reading thread?
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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 11 points 226 days ago +11 / -0

Pornography is a weapon employed by jews to promote degeneracy. It's no different than drugs.

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– horstshort 10 points 226 days ago +10 / -0

Infighting is retarded but you're happy to infight over pornography drawings despite it being about as important to the political situation of the modern world as a hemorrhoid?

I don't get it.

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– AbleistSL [S] 3 points 226 days ago +3 / -0

TL;DR: squashing smaller issues can improve organization on bigger issues.

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– TallestSkil 13 points 226 days ago +13 / -0

controversially BANNED

No. What’s controversial is that all other porn is not banned in some countries. It isn’t “freedom of speech” and was never considered legal until a jew lied in court in the 1960s.

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– CatoTheElder 10 points 226 days ago +10 / -0

All pornographers and porn defenders are leftists.

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– BeefyBelisarius 10 points 226 days ago +10 / -0

No, it may be important to you, but only a tiny fringe on the right support that. Most you can hope for is to be ignored as long as you stay in the lolicon closet.

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– hilboggins 2 points 226 days ago +2 / -0

It is the primary one right now tho...

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– Grant_us_eyes 23 points 226 days ago +23 / -0

Because a lot of Conservative/Right voices are just temporarily embarrassed liberals in disguise.

It always boggles me when I stumble across liberal whom claim they turned conservative because conservatives where the more 'dignified' party.

It's all about feels. They don't want to actually win, they just want the 'look' while they loose. Or are so stupid that they think 'Well, if we offer a good example to the left, eventually they'll turn around and become more dignified as well'.

They really need to sit down, shut up, and learn of the context and history of how we fucking got to this point. (They won't, because the moment you start pointing out leftist bad-behavior, they start mumbling something about how the right did it first).

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– Kaarous 14 points 226 days ago +14 / -0

This. Right now the United States has the same problem the right did at the outset of the Spanish Civil War.

Namely that a big chunk of the right aren't actually helping fight the left. Either because they see this as a political disagreement instead of the existential threat it is, or because they themselves are part of the left in disguise.

The left could be slaughtering entire convents and eating human flesh, and the "conservatives" will always spend their time clicking their tongues at the real right.

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 8 points 226 days ago +8 / -0

We all know what the solution is. We're not allowed to talk about it. But we all know.

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– Vicious_snek6 16 points 226 days ago +16 / -0

It's because it's a broad coalition with different beliefs while city leftism is a monoculture with a singular belief set.

https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjso.12665

(graph showing how broad the beliefs of the coalition are, figure 2, that's the one you may have seen round the place)

And it's broadly a good thing*, it allows us to model the beliefs of others, something the right is far better at than the left. Even if California sank into the ocean and there were no more lefties to worry about for a while, the broad and deep discussions about philosophy and economics happening on the right are a good thing for keeping that skill up

*(where it is utter dogshit is in systems where the left block-votes while the right coalition parties allow members to vote as they please, and so everything is forever ratcheted towards leftism even when the left is in the minority, because they left has enough voters from the right on that one issue, each and every time while the right can't get stuff passed even when in the majority because they have enough dissenters on that one issue. The right needs to understand what is happening here. Assuming they don't already know)

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– Benevolentdictator 13 points 226 days ago +13 / -0

Thomas Massie is getting primaried by Trump for not kissing the Israel ring while voting against the Big Beautiful Bill, trying to organize votes to release the Epstein files, voting against foreign aid to Israel & Ukraine, voting against raising the Budget ceiling, etc.

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– BeefyBelisarius 8 points 226 days ago +8 / -0

In other words, Trump is punching to the right.

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– Niemo 2 points 226 days ago +2 / -0

Left right blah blah blah. Leftism is just a moniker for judeo Bolshevism, aka satanism/inversion of the natural order.

The damaging left right paradigm shifts everything into this improper lens of change being "leftist" and status quo being "rightwing".

We need change, and its not anything resembling so called "progressive" change. The status quo is our ongoing genocide. I have no interest in conserving the status quo. And I have no interest in ceding cultural change itself to "leftism"

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– TallestSkil 15 points 226 days ago +15 / -0

The guy is wrong. He’s completely brainwashed. He doesn’t understand anything other than the worldview implanted in him by decades of propaganda. There is no “the right.” There never has been. There is no “the left,” either. Maintaining the false dichotomy your enemies created for you guarantees your genocide.

Here follows the unprecedented concurrence of modern factors from which no historical society or race has ever recovered:

  • Jews have never had more social, economic, or political power at any point in history–locally, regionally, or globally–than today.
  • Whites have never had less (of the same) power at any point in history than today.
  • Whites have never had ~80% of our population openly worshipping our own genocide, psychologically.
  • Whites have never openly allowed nonwhites into our countries and given every part of our labor to them for free.
  • The world has never had a single, unified currency system before.
  • Communications and transport have never before allowed one second messaging delays worldwide and 72-hour seven-figure military troop deployment worldwide.
  • Physical (audio/video) and digital surveillance have never been so pervasive.
  • Whites have never allowed the industrial capacity required to sustain our own population to leave our countries before.

There is no moment in history to which you can point that contains even a single one of these items. For whites, at least. Anyone else who allowed even one isn’t around anymore. Genetically.

We don’t seem to have any agency anymore. It’s gone. We literally abandoned it. I’ve noticed this in my own life for years, but I’m talking on a macro scale. It’s part of the conclusions proven by Dr. Robert Putnam in his studies of multiculturalism. Mass psychology studies have proven that when people subconsciously see they’re being replaced, they give up. They stop doing anything to defend themselves. That goes for tiny things (I have friends whose houses maintain the same clutter inside for years; untouched in a corner) all the way up to social structures (charitable giving and volunteering collapses, voting declines, trust in institutions vanishes, and people actively campaign against infrastructure improvements).

It’s psychological (media+individual subconscious knowledge of replacement), physiological (lifestyle “choices” across the spectrum cause subservient behavior; visceral body fat directly impedes cognitive function), and spiritual (Scofield “bible” forced hundreds of millions to literally worship their own genocide, divorcing them from real spiritual guidance foe themselves, their families, and their societies).

None of this has ever happened in human history. You can’t use the “pendulum” hoax or references to historic “cycles” to comfort your way out of this. Every aspect of today is unprecedented, and that’s without even talking about industrialization and modern technology.

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– Niemo 8 points 226 days ago +8 / -0

I agree with this 100%. There is no precedent for what is happening. Never before has the entire earthly population become monocultured on the same media like today. There were always rural and out of the way enclaves that developed parallel to the rest of the more connected society. Even that connected society was relatively weakly connected unlike today.

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– MattTheBlack 2 points 225 days ago +2 / -0

There is no "the right." There never has been. There is no "the left," either.

Retard shit. You'll still be saying that on the way to the gulag

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– TallestSkil 2 points 224 days ago +2 / -0

DURR U DUM I SAY SO I WIN

Thanks for admitting there is no left and no right. You’re too retarded to comprehend communist dialectic. You won’t even make it to the gulag. They’ll just line you up against the wall.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 10 points 226 days ago +10 / -0

What is this "we"?

Both the problem and the glory of things, is it is Individualist vs Collectivist. Even "Muh Jews" is just a collectivism complaint, complaining that they're the most in-group-biased and out-group-harming. It all boils down to a distaste for collectivist ideologies.

The problem lies in the fact that it is individualist versus collectivist. It isn't 150 million versus 150 million, it's 150 million individuals who all happen to be against 150 million people all marching in lockstep with specific goals, oppressions, and dictats in mind.

So of course it is divided. We have 150 million different opinions. Some overlap, sure, but others don't. And we interact with each-other more than we interact with the opposition, and therefore, our non-overlap is highlighted more often to us, than the clear MASSIVE non-overlap with the opposing ideology. The opposing side is a cult-level echo chamber, they have no different opinions. They gain one opinion dictated from above, and no matter how contrary to prior opinions, it is now fact to them.

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– el_hoovy 11 points 226 days ago +11 / -0

distaste for collectivist ideologies.

this doesn't really make sense:

out-group-harming

yes (obviously)

in-group-biased

no? who would have a distaste for this aside from closeted sociopaths who think the world owes them everything? it's only the out-group-harming that anyone sane has any real problem with. if this was an actual part of why people dislike the jews or whatever collectivist group then we'd see just as much hate for, say, the amish. obviously, we don't, because the amish make a point of staying out of everyone's way.

the problem isn't individualism vs collectivism and ever since this image was drawn it never has been. it's always been about what people and groups of people actually do. i hate one serial killer or fraudster as much as i do a thousand put together, it's just easier to see the thousand. framing it as le epic libertarianism vs le fascist unity while only attributing half the enmity to what either of those use their ideology for only contributes to the divide.

i guess this reply also only contributes to the divide... we should probably find something we agree on.

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– AgnosticTemplar 9 points 226 days ago +9 / -0

The right need to embrace a more collectivist mindset. Allowing ourselves to become atomized ceded the strategic advantage to the left who embrace that kind of thing.

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 8 points 226 days ago +8 / -0

This is why "conservatives" never conserved anything. More concern with muh free market and line going up than actually keeping alive the traditions, culture, and most importantly the people who established them.

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– Niemo 5 points 226 days ago +5 / -0

ape together strong. The individual is the building block of the collective, a successful collective requires successful individuals.

The problem is divorcing oneself from the community under the guise of individualism over the collective. Its like a cell of the body suddenly separating from the body and expecting to survive.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 1 point 226 days ago +1 / -0

There are elements of collectivism that are extremely beneficial, if they can be taken without taking the whole package. Problem is, the whole package is a lot easier to "institute" than piecemeal items.

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– AgnosticTemplar 5 points 226 days ago +5 / -0

We can argue over minutia after our enemies are routed. That's what happened in the decades following the American Revolution.

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– MattTheBlack 1 point 224 days ago +1 / -0

The right is spending it's time accusing each other of being bought out by this or that foreign country. Lmao I saw an anti Israel right winger get accused of being an Israeli shill for criticizing Candace Owens.

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– TallestSkil 7 points 226 days ago +7 / -0

[the problem lies in that we have been brainwashed into thinking literal communism is good, instead of the collectivism that actually defines traditionalist worldviews]

Okay. So… maybe stop that from spreading?

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 6 points 226 days ago +6 / -0

"Individuals" aren't real. You are a product of your race and culture. The idea of "individualism" is peculiar to the White European Christian mindset, specifically the classic liberalism of Anglo-Germanic Protestantism.

It's "collective" whether you like it or not, now are you against the side of the hordes screaming "Kill Whitey" already?

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– undecidedmask2 10 points 226 days ago +10 / -0

Too many leftists that don’t like the left because of one B tier issue that then join the right and get scared when someone talks about elimination immigration or something like that. Boomers that sold out the country for personal wealth and thought the consequences would come once they died, not while they’re still living. Jewish conservatives. People that shut down and turn into rabid leftists the moment something slightly anti-Israel is said.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 9 points 226 days ago +9 / -0

the right is so divided because "the right" is just an umbrella term for everything not left.

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 6 points 226 days ago +6 / -0

And "big tent" is just another word for clusterfuck "diversity."

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– Niemo 1 point 226 days ago +1 / -0

You are right. And The left is just an umbrella term for judeo Marxism and inversion of truth.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 4 points 226 days ago +4 / -0

the left is definitely more condensed than the right. they are ideologically aligned on most things, often under threat of excommunication or ostracization.

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– hilboggins 8 points 226 days ago +8 / -0

You'll know if you've been following politics before and through Trump's first election.

Most normal Republicans knew there was a rot in the Republican party, hence we have the term RINO. Problem was we couldn't see behind the curtains to figure out the cause of this rot.

Enter Trump 2016, and the absolute bull in a China shop he is... he broke so much shit we got to investigate the pieces.

10 years later, we at least have a list of culprits and the influence they have over the US government.

#1 on that list Today is "muh greatest ally" as we've learned just how much influence they've had and still have over the US to our detriment.

Only reason we're now split is because we finally caught on to whats happening and we're literally being gaslit via propaganda to pretend it either doesn't happen, or it's actually good thing it's happening lmao.

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– ModsAreAIDS 7 points 226 days ago +7 / -0

The right is divided because half of us want our government to represent Americans, and the other half are traitors committing treason. There will be no talking this one out.

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– MattTheBlack 1 point 224 days ago +1 / -0

Except the right is full of retards unable to tell one from the other

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– Sumsuch 3 points 226 days ago +3 / -0

The hard split between "left" and "right" is actually a rather new thing. The figures may have always had distinctions, but when it comes to the general population there used to be a lot more debate amongst the people directly. Now the Internet has become so polarized that many people will never once engage with anyone earnestly discussing what issues connect them.

Many people even become so attached to the title "left" or "right" that their own concept of self is built upon not being like those other guys, and so any ideas that are perceived to be of their "enemies" are rejected out of hand uncritically.

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– MartinRigggs 3 points 226 days ago +3 / -0

Divided on what? Most of us understand the J’ish problem is the most pressing issue out there, and it needs to be solved before we can deal with every major issue since they are the ones causing every major issue. Demographic displacement. lgbt stuff. Inflation driven by pro-j’w policy including all of the wars and all of the data centers being built to enslave us with technocratic bullshit. Lockdowns.

Everything

Where are we in disagreement? Just religion?

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– MattTheBlack 2 points 225 days ago +2 / -0

Fuentes and his retards need to be marginalized. You literally cannot disagree with him or his orbiters without being accused of being paid off by israel

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– something_stylish 2 points 226 days ago +2 / -0

Nobody agreees on everything, news at 10.

There's still a plethora of things they do agree on and should be able to work towards a common goal concerning those things, even if the reasoning behind it differs. Turning each disagrement into an entire schism that fractures everything into smaller groups that will never reconcile is exactly what killed "the Left" in the end. You could even argue it's initiated and influeneced by outside forces. I don't personally think so, I think everybody has been steeped in that sort of landscape for so long that they've adopted the habits unintentionally.

Have your infighting, have your internal discourse and discord but don't forget the larger things at play that brought everybody together in the first place. There's decades of mess to fix and letting power slip through your fingers over this is retarded. It's a colossal task and it's something that has to be chipped away over time as we discover more rot in the process.

This is going to be a lifetime's worth of work, don't get preoccupied with the pebbles when we have boulders to remove.

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– realerfunction 2 points 226 days ago +2 / -0

no enemies to the right, no friends to the left

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