Why would you link this retard tweet that has no info and no source? You could have just made a text post.
Edit: I searched it up and apparently the "first degree murder as an act of terrorism" charge was dropped, probably because it's hard to prove terroristic intent, especially when he had personal beef with the health care industry. It'd be real nice if everyone wasn't lying about everything all of the time.
Additionally, from what I understand from things I have looked up, New York has strange ways of naming their charges that are not shared by other states. So in this case, 2nd Degree Murder would be the equivalent of 1st Degree Murder in any other state, and 1st Degree Murder you basically have to murder a cop before they can do it.
It is the same as how the New York Supreme Court is actually the Appellate Court for any other state.
Because basically anything with the word " AF " in it basically never posts links to their material in order to disguise the fact that they are usually stormfags who are driving traffic to themselves.
And yes, it's going to be hard to prove terroristic intent, but I'd like to see what evidence they are missing to find that intent. The biggest problem here is that it means that this assassination will likely NOT be considered a Leftist terrorist attack in all records going forward. I think this was the true reason, and it's because the New York criminal system is explicitly favoring Leftist political violence.
If Charlie Kirk had been assassinated at NYU instead of Utah, I would expect the prosecutors to do the same thing.
That's just cringe af and makes no sense in context. Seriously, take a step back and look at that dude's twitter handle without getting all emo about it. Which makes more sense, "American America First", or "American As Fuck"?
Excellent question. You’re in Europe. You pay outrageous taxes, but your healthcare is included.
In America, we pay less outrageous taxes, but we are on our own with insurance. Most people get it though their employment at a slight discount. Personally, I pay 1k PER MONTH to cover my family.
But..
#1 it doesn’t really cover much; certain surgeries or medications are denied (and the denial rate is increasing).
#2 I also have to pay a deductible which is 1k - 5k depending on who you go see, so in other words, I have to pay thousands more before insurance even kicks in.
#3 then it’s only 80/20 until you meet your out of pocket max (could be a few hundred or a few more thousand.)
#4 THEN insurance will pay 100% of what they approve. But only till the end of the year, then the cycle resets.
TLDR: We pay A LOT. Get a little. ^ claim denials = profit. Costs ^
Thanks for the answer. It's rare to hear such views in a right-wing space. For me, it's been impossible to figure out what's true because every source is biased, either for or against the American health care system. And I don't want to say without knowing (like most people in Europe) "we are better because we is us".
But what you describe sounds like a systemic problem, not something for which an individual is culpable. He may have been a cog in a bad system, but does that lessen guilt for someone who kills the guy - someone who wasn't even personally a victim of that system? I'd be all sympathy if it were someone whose wife died because of a denial for cancer treatment (if that is even possible) - even if the action itself is still wrong.
Is it also not dangerous to say that murder may be more OK if the guy you kill is a 'bad guy' - even if doing completely legal things?
Good points all around. To to answer your questions, yes it’s wrong and creates a dangerous precedent (as we saw last week).
The CEO symbolized all that was wrong with the health care system in the eyes of many. And they had the highest % of total denials at 33. People no doubt die from these denials, or after a lengthy appeals process. So people (especially on the left) felt justified in his killing.
But, as you know, it didn’t solve anything. Healthcare is still f*cked and now insurance is digging in its heels. And we discovered later that he wasn’t all that bad. He was trying to fight investors (who later sued United) demanding more denials and less customer service support
Because I’m still torn on the issue & I don’t see this in black and white terms. Bad, expensive insurance full of denials is literally killing us or driving us into bankruptcy and suicide. So I’m surprised this doesn’t happen more often.
Whoever killed that ceo deserves full charges. I never believed it was this luigi guy. The killer was so professional and did everything to avoid detection then he just sits in a mcdonalds until caught?
There with ALL of the evidence -- on the run for five days and didn't dump the gun anywhere? Really?
There were a million and one places he could have left it where no one would have found it, but he decided to keep all of the incriminating evidence on him... for FIVE days? Really?
Why would you link this retard tweet that has no info and no source? You could have just made a text post.
Edit: I searched it up and apparently the "first degree murder as an act of terrorism" charge was dropped, probably because it's hard to prove terroristic intent, especially when he had personal beef with the health care industry. It'd be real nice if everyone wasn't lying about everything all of the time.
Additionally, from what I understand from things I have looked up, New York has strange ways of naming their charges that are not shared by other states. So in this case, 2nd Degree Murder would be the equivalent of 1st Degree Murder in any other state, and 1st Degree Murder you basically have to murder a cop before they can do it.
It is the same as how the New York Supreme Court is actually the Appellate Court for any other state.
New York just has to be retarded about everything
Also because then it would count as left wing terror for the statistics and we can't have that.
Because basically anything with the word " AF " in it basically never posts links to their material in order to disguise the fact that they are usually stormfags who are driving traffic to themselves.
And yes, it's going to be hard to prove terroristic intent, but I'd like to see what evidence they are missing to find that intent. The biggest problem here is that it means that this assassination will likely NOT be considered a Leftist terrorist attack in all records going forward. I think this was the true reason, and it's because the New York criminal system is explicitly favoring Leftist political violence.
If Charlie Kirk had been assassinated at NYU instead of Utah, I would expect the prosecutors to do the same thing.
That's just cringe af and makes no sense in context. Seriously, take a step back and look at that dude's twitter handle without getting all emo about it. Which makes more sense, "American America First", or "American As Fuck"?
AH-HA! You didn't even post a link.
just kidding
Curses! Foiled by my own acronym!
Most of the AF accounts I've seen identified at all have been the types of people that use the other kind of swastika and shit in the streets.
BLOODY BASTARD JEW!
YOU BLOODY BASTARD BITCH LASANGIA!
Your honor the jury finds the defendant incredibly based.
After dealing with UHC,which sends all calls to a pajeet call center, can understand why that CEO got it.
Sarr, can you do the needful and just die?
DO NOT REDEEM YOUR POLICY, WHY DID YOU REDEEEEM?
A nonpartisan assassin of the people
Mama mia!! 🤌
Sorry. I don’t want to throw the book at this guy. Just saying.
Not saying you're right or wrong, but can you explain why?
Excellent question. You’re in Europe. You pay outrageous taxes, but your healthcare is included.
In America, we pay less outrageous taxes, but we are on our own with insurance. Most people get it though their employment at a slight discount. Personally, I pay 1k PER MONTH to cover my family.
But..
#1 it doesn’t really cover much; certain surgeries or medications are denied (and the denial rate is increasing).
#2 I also have to pay a deductible which is 1k - 5k depending on who you go see, so in other words, I have to pay thousands more before insurance even kicks in.
#3 then it’s only 80/20 until you meet your out of pocket max (could be a few hundred or a few more thousand.)
#4 THEN insurance will pay 100% of what they approve. But only till the end of the year, then the cycle resets.
TLDR: We pay A LOT. Get a little. ^ claim denials = profit. Costs ^
Thanks for the answer. It's rare to hear such views in a right-wing space. For me, it's been impossible to figure out what's true because every source is biased, either for or against the American health care system. And I don't want to say without knowing (like most people in Europe) "we are better because we is us".
But what you describe sounds like a systemic problem, not something for which an individual is culpable. He may have been a cog in a bad system, but does that lessen guilt for someone who kills the guy - someone who wasn't even personally a victim of that system? I'd be all sympathy if it were someone whose wife died because of a denial for cancer treatment (if that is even possible) - even if the action itself is still wrong.
Is it also not dangerous to say that murder may be more OK if the guy you kill is a 'bad guy' - even if doing completely legal things?
Good points all around. To to answer your questions, yes it’s wrong and creates a dangerous precedent (as we saw last week).
The CEO symbolized all that was wrong with the health care system in the eyes of many. And they had the highest % of total denials at 33. People no doubt die from these denials, or after a lengthy appeals process. So people (especially on the left) felt justified in his killing.
But, as you know, it didn’t solve anything. Healthcare is still f*cked and now insurance is digging in its heels. And we discovered later that he wasn’t all that bad. He was trying to fight investors (who later sued United) demanding more denials and less customer service support
But if so, why don't you think that people should not throw the book at LM?
Or did you mean: not more than you normally would at someone who murdered in such a way?
Because I’m still torn on the issue & I don’t see this in black and white terms. Bad, expensive insurance full of denials is literally killing us or driving us into bankruptcy and suicide. So I’m surprised this doesn’t happen more often.
I was surprised that more people did not go after urinalists who made it their job to try to destroy people's lives.
(Not advocating for it.)
Weird timing...
Whoever killed that ceo deserves full charges. I never believed it was this luigi guy. The killer was so professional and did everything to avoid detection then he just sits in a mcdonalds until caught?
Professionals know about neilsen devices. They also look for cameras.
He was on the run for 5 days. He was not in the mcdonalds that entire time. He was probably there to use the wifi. An employee called the cops.
Take your meds.
There with ALL of the evidence -- on the run for five days and didn't dump the gun anywhere? Really?
There were a million and one places he could have left it where no one would have found it, but he decided to keep all of the incriminating evidence on him... for FIVE days? Really?
He's got a 1up mushroom and they know it.