I suspect this may be a case of getting into trouble by talking to the police. Honesty and politeness are liabilities in this era of low trust society. That, and saying "sorry" all the time.
Yep, this is why americas forefathers wanted a place where human lives could be held to a higher standard. Most of them would be rolling in their graves if they could see what is happening to this country now.
Canada is a goofy fucking place. People to busy judging each other rather than coordinating together to do anything about it.
My partner has to deal with people all day who think I am faking my illness. (As if you could fake blood tests somehow.). They got in a fight with one of their friends about it today.
They all have this retarded belief that if there was something wrong with me, the doctors would help.
These people, I dont think there is any hope for them. Whats the end goal of me sitting at home wasting away every day rofl. My plan is to go back to america eventually and see if I can get help there, but I dont have alot of faith its going to happen or it would have likely happened already. If that doesnt work out, I just plan on dying homeless in the woods.
When I lived with the rednecks, boy did I think they had closed minds, they dont even compare to a canadian!
I've watched a couple murder porn shows based in UK. Basically they sit there and ask the suspect 100 questions or the same question 100 times and the suspect has to sit there and say, "I don't know" or some other bullshit to each question.
There's also no "double jeopardy" in Canada. If the Crown fails to convict you? They just re-charge you on the exact same charges with the exact same evidence and go back to trial until they win. Or you plead guilty...
Ironically, just like the right to bear arms, the explicit right to silence came from England. Unfortunately, anarcho-tyrannies like the Commonwealth countries don't really care what the law says, so now the right to silence is just a piece of paper from the 17th century that courts and Parliament have poked all sorts of holes through, like the one you mentioned.
I saw lots of beta comments related to this arrest that it was fine to defend yourself against a home intruder, but not to beat them within an inch of their life.
Just a slippery slope from "You aren't allowed to take a life to defend your property" & "You can't claim self defense if you engage car thieves in your driveway"
People who say shit like that put too much faith in the average person's ability to gauge such things, or to control the aggression they have spent their whole lives trying to deny even exists within themselves instead of honing the ability to use it appropriately.
The same people who scream that the police are being to violent, when put into a shoot-no-shoot scenario, almost universally shoot too early for petty things.
It's projection. "I'd bludgeon that man to death for scuffing my shoes, so the police must have done the same".
Exactly! Leftists will LEAP to conclusions to push their agenda. No facts required.
Did the police report say how many times the invader (who was armed!) got hit? It might have been once? It might have been 20 times? Is this known yet? I actually don't know, but I'm betting it isn't.
You beat them until they successfully run away (somehow) or surrender (and throw their weapon away). Until the threat is gone.
Doesn't matter to them. It could have even been "the guy tripped falling down the stairs with his cane, the cane flew from his hands and hit the intruder in the head" and the lefties would say to kill the old man, and give the poor home invader free alcohol and handjobs.
Exactly, nobody knows he was in your house. And if he has a cell phone, make sure you take it around town a bit, stopping from time to time before dumping it in a river.
Shouldn't have called the cops. Everyone in Canada should dig a "self defense hole" somewhere in advance, then if the need arises they can fill that hole and not bother the authorities. Crime reports go down and good people stay free, everyone wins.
I thought the natural retort to me arguing about the Maritime provinces (& Newfoundland & Labrador, which for some reason isn't counted as a Maritime province like Finland isn't part of Scandinavia) are handing out five&six figure fines & six months in jail for going hiking in the woods until October, was to point out that one shouldn't concern themselves with fines when they have already committed murder.
But if they catch you "hiking" in the woods & later find a body that died right around the exact same time buried in that area?
They'll come for you :o
American police need plausibility, maybe? Canada's police, especially the RCMP and CSIS have a lot of "leeway" and it's super easy for them to get a warrant "rubber stamped" in no time at all.
Case should be thrown out. The appropriate amount of violence when someone breaks into your home is dismembering them one piece at a time until they die, then mailing the remains to the persons family only to then put them on a new Saw-type show where you slowly kill his whole family.
The fact, he's alive means he didn't use enough force so I could fathom an argument for punishing him for letting the intruder live. Not a good look. At the least, he should have had the intruder on display while hanging on a pike completely through him then posted on social media and had a BBQ with the neighbors to admire the display.
I don't agree with that. If you've got to kill something, you make it as quick as you are able. I don't torture vermin, and I don't think you should torture human vermin either.
I disagree. We still talk about Vlad the Impaler to this day. You want to make sure no one breaks and enters into people's home? Let's make their death so publicly gruesome, they're talking about it 500 years later.
The arrest and trial IS THE PUNISHMENT. The Crown knows they have almost zero chance of success, but they use this to send a clear message: let the invaders take whatever they want, including your children. Never lift a finger to stop them... or else!
This man will be in jail for a time, have his entire life ruined and face gigantic legal costs even if given "free defense lawyers".
An ARMED intruder. The police mention this, but Canada's "bought & paid for" Media do not. All of Canada's media outlets, except the "right wing" ones, get free taxpayer money because... they do!
By taking the money they agree to not spread "misinformation". Who decides what "misinformation" is? A panel of "experts" appointed by... The Prime Minister!
Thus ANYTHING bad that the Liberals do could be labeled "misinformation" and the money yanked and even their licenses revoked!
Other vague terms like "hate speech" or "homophobia" are probably included too, I forget.
Anarchy-tyranny at its finest.
And of course, the only solution to anarcho-tyranny is censored for rule two violation
I suspect this may be a case of getting into trouble by talking to the police. Honesty and politeness are liabilities in this era of low trust society. That, and saying "sorry" all the time.
Canada and other UK fucked jurisdictions are backwards.
You don't have a right to be silent.
They'll tell you "It may harm your defense if you fail to mention something you later rely on in court."
Anyone who lives under a "monarchy" and refuses to throw it off ends up under this tyranny. It's not your life. It's the crowns life.
Yep, this is why americas forefathers wanted a place where human lives could be held to a higher standard. Most of them would be rolling in their graves if they could see what is happening to this country now.
Canada is a goofy fucking place. People to busy judging each other rather than coordinating together to do anything about it.
My partner has to deal with people all day who think I am faking my illness. (As if you could fake blood tests somehow.). They got in a fight with one of their friends about it today.
They all have this retarded belief that if there was something wrong with me, the doctors would help.
These people, I dont think there is any hope for them. Whats the end goal of me sitting at home wasting away every day rofl. My plan is to go back to america eventually and see if I can get help there, but I dont have alot of faith its going to happen or it would have likely happened already. If that doesnt work out, I just plan on dying homeless in the woods.
When I lived with the rednecks, boy did I think they had closed minds, they dont even compare to a canadian!
People forget about this one, but it's a fuckin' bad one.
In many cases, you are compelled to testify against yourself to the police.
I've watched a couple murder porn shows based in UK. Basically they sit there and ask the suspect 100 questions or the same question 100 times and the suspect has to sit there and say, "I don't know" or some other bullshit to each question.
There's also no "double jeopardy" in Canada. If the Crown fails to convict you? They just re-charge you on the exact same charges with the exact same evidence and go back to trial until they win. Or you plead guilty...
Ironically, just like the right to bear arms, the explicit right to silence came from England. Unfortunately, anarcho-tyrannies like the Commonwealth countries don't really care what the law says, so now the right to silence is just a piece of paper from the 17th century that courts and Parliament have poked all sorts of holes through, like the one you mentioned.
It's a case of the police being traitors and wanting to string him up for defending himself.
Well, the lesson here is you might as well finish the job and buy a shovel if you don't have one. And keep it to yourself
Or organize with your neighbors so you can watch each other's backs and all say you didn't see anything if the pigs come by.
Great in theory, but someone always breaks ranks and speaks out
Not allowed to have shovels, or even a plastic spork
I saw lots of beta comments related to this arrest that it was fine to defend yourself against a home intruder, but not to beat them within an inch of their life.
Just a slippery slope from "You aren't allowed to take a life to defend your property" & "You can't claim self defense if you engage car thieves in your driveway"
People who say shit like that put too much faith in the average person's ability to gauge such things, or to control the aggression they have spent their whole lives trying to deny even exists within themselves instead of honing the ability to use it appropriately.
The same people who scream that the police are being to violent, when put into a shoot-no-shoot scenario, almost universally shoot too early for petty things.
It's projection. "I'd bludgeon that man to death for scuffing my shoes, so the police must have done the same".
There's absolutely a point where it morphs into kidnapping and murder if you keep the intruder hostage, torture them, and kill them.
However, I doubt that's the case here.
Possessions simply aren't worth a human life. So please, stop invading people's homes.
This, yes.
Exactly! Leftists will LEAP to conclusions to push their agenda. No facts required.
Did the police report say how many times the invader (who was armed!) got hit? It might have been once? It might have been 20 times? Is this known yet? I actually don't know, but I'm betting it isn't.
You beat them until they successfully run away (somehow) or surrender (and throw their weapon away). Until the threat is gone.
Doesn't matter to them. It could have even been "the guy tripped falling down the stairs with his cane, the cane flew from his hands and hit the intruder in the head" and the lefties would say to kill the old man, and give the poor home invader free alcohol and handjobs.
Well, the intruder could be a missing person at the moment and no one would know anything
Exactly, nobody knows he was in your house. And if he has a cell phone, make sure you take it around town a bit, stopping from time to time before dumping it in a river.
Shouldn't have called the cops. Everyone in Canada should dig a "self defense hole" somewhere in advance, then if the need arises they can fill that hole and not bother the authorities. Crime reports go down and good people stay free, everyone wins.
A decent chunk of the population is currently on "climate lockdown" and is banned from entering the forest.
Damn, they're one step ahead.
I thought the natural retort to me arguing about the Maritime provinces (& Newfoundland & Labrador, which for some reason isn't counted as a Maritime province like Finland isn't part of Scandinavia) are handing out five&six figure fines & six months in jail for going hiking in the woods until October, was to point out that one shouldn't concern themselves with fines when they have already committed murder.
But I appreciate your reply nonetheless.
But if they catch you "hiking" in the woods & later find a body that died right around the exact same time buried in that area?
They'll come for you :o
Canada is the WEF globohomo's cum sock.
If a robber gets in your house just hide the body. Who is gonna come? Police need a plausible evidence to get a warrant to search your garden or home.
American police need plausibility, maybe? Canada's police, especially the RCMP and CSIS have a lot of "leeway" and it's super easy for them to get a warrant "rubber stamped" in no time at all.
Dead men tell no tales.
But it's shockingly hard to hide the body! Especially if there's a bloody mess involved...
You would be absolutely shocked to know that the US is one of the few places worldwide that allows self-defense.
This isn't anything new. A court of justice will determine if he had used an appropriate amount of violence. Happens in the States as well.
When there is an intruder in your home who attacks you, any amount of violence is appropriate.
Case should be thrown out. The appropriate amount of violence when someone breaks into your home is dismembering them one piece at a time until they die, then mailing the remains to the persons family only to then put them on a new Saw-type show where you slowly kill his whole family.
The fact, he's alive means he didn't use enough force so I could fathom an argument for punishing him for letting the intruder live. Not a good look. At the least, he should have had the intruder on display while hanging on a pike completely through him then posted on social media and had a BBQ with the neighbors to admire the display.
I don't agree with that. If you've got to kill something, you make it as quick as you are able. I don't torture vermin, and I don't think you should torture human vermin either.
I disagree. We still talk about Vlad the Impaler to this day. You want to make sure no one breaks and enters into people's home? Let's make their death so publicly gruesome, they're talking about it 500 years later.
He’s remembered for doing a gruesome act. He’s less remembered for still losing the war to the Ottomans.
To each their own.
Actions have consequences.
That it does some states whose governments mores aligns with that of a commonwealth.
The arrest and trial IS THE PUNISHMENT. The Crown knows they have almost zero chance of success, but they use this to send a clear message: let the invaders take whatever they want, including your children. Never lift a finger to stop them... or else!
This man will be in jail for a time, have his entire life ruined and face gigantic legal costs even if given "free defense lawyers".
An ARMED intruder. The police mention this, but Canada's "bought & paid for" Media do not. All of Canada's media outlets, except the "right wing" ones, get free taxpayer money because... they do!
By taking the money they agree to not spread "misinformation". Who decides what "misinformation" is? A panel of "experts" appointed by... The Prime Minister!
Thus ANYTHING bad that the Liberals do could be labeled "misinformation" and the money yanked and even their licenses revoked!
Other vague terms like "hate speech" or "homophobia" are probably included too, I forget.