If you served during Obama, you were treated to displays of wokist bullshit that had not yet even begun to enter the mainstream consciousness until years and years later.
Such as his "you aren't allowed to shoot at the enemy if there are livestock nearby" rules of engagement policy, or his "men are considered guilty unless proven innocent" recission of the UCMJ, or the "nobody is making E6 this year unless they're a black female, or have 200 points more than normal" promotion policy.
Or my personal favorite, that fat dyke jewess who was touring TRADOC in 2009 giving speeches that the First Amendment shouldn't apply to men.
Every year he was in office, war games were run by the Obama administration projecting the outcome of a civil war of red states vs blue states. I participated in one.
The red states won every time they ran the numbers, under the assumption that at least a full third of the US military deserted and joined them.
Obama was trying to tear the military down, because on the whole the military would have sided against him. And he heavily succeeded. Almost anyone worth a good goddamn got out.
I think it's worth remembering that yes, those people got out, but they still have their training, experience, and a newfound resentment for the federal government. Pretty much every American vet I know would undoubtedly be a rebel if the rubber hit the road again. Those people are still on the chessboard.
If vets weren't resentful of the feds during their service, they will after they interact with the US Department of Veteran Affairs. It's yet to top the "plz no suicide kthx" memo after the fall of Afghanistan under Biden.
The DVA hasn't reach Canadian levels of bad yet then? That's something
Yeah the vets here in Aus are treated abysmally too. There are a bunch of different pensions and stuff for free/discounted therapy in our semi socialist system. Let's say the vet wants physio and speech path, for a war wound affecting the face. NDIS (properly disabled people under 65) and medicare and aged-medicare/myagedcare are the big 3, and some private health insurance cases too. That there is 90% of their caseload, with another 8% being nominally private, getting some documentation to get onto the NDIS or something. DVA you rarely see, its that final 2% you don't often taketake. But when you do, the clinic either rejects it for it being so bad of a deal for them, pennies, compared to the main pensions and requiring yet more paperwork for something you rarely work with, politely suggest they go and look into getting onto one of the others before you'll see em, or take it on essentially out of charity/patriotism.
Yeah, it seems like a losing move. Now you have a bunch of people with knowledge and experience and no faith in the government, are capable of training others, and now they have a head start because they can start training their groups early instead of whenever they defect. Even if you don't like them, surely keeping them at least placated would be the winning strategy?
You hear about this sort of thing on anonymous greentext via 4chan, so it's kinda crazy to see someone say 'yeah, they were actually a thing' on a more permanent forum.
I'm kinda curious about what it was like, but given all the vets I know, they have to dance around a bunch of, as my boss calls it, 'secret squirrel bullshit'.
The military is a social experiment platform. Service members sign away the rights they swear to defend, which makes them perfect guinea pigs for any medical, social, cultural experiment imaginable.
Talk about getting vaccinated, the gauntlet of injections received in basic training is on part with the vaccine schedule for children today. You wouldn't believe it.
They had DEI training as early as 2016, preparing leadership for trannies on fucking war ships. Before that, cultural appreciation in decision making and mission accomplishment. It's all done there because there's no escaping one's compliance. Everyone must pipe up and profess their agreement with multiculturalism.
Anyone who has served in the last 20 years absolutely hates their country's government.
Dont Ask Dont Tell expired in 2011, and everyone had to sit through powerpoint hell over that. Service wide.
I sat through it. I was in 1994-2014.
I got the experimental Anthrax shots in the early 2000s, and lawsuits from that are why the military cannot give experimental vaccines to servicemembers. Which, of course, the DoD and FDA step around for COVID by approving a shot with 3 years left on development, and then calling the EUA shot "functionally and legally equivalent" to the approved shot.
you aren't allowed to shoot the terrorists hiding near their donkeys.
The what now? You couldn't shoot insurgents daring to move supplies by donkey, as is tradition in the region? What insurgent doesn't take their girlfriend when they travel days to fight the Americans
I was in for 20 years, 1994-2014, and was politically active before I went in. 1992 Ruby Ridge and 1993 Waco radicalized me, and I only got more radicalized as time went on.
Ive said this before: watching Obama get elected in 2008 was when I knew, with absolute certainty, that the US as a nation was done, over with, finished, that everything after that was re-arranging the chairs as the ship sank underneath us. That jigabo communist snowed the entire country into electing him, and what is worse, every radical communist saw their opportunity to take over everything, and they have. It is not a coincidence that all the woke stuff got supercharged in 2008.
Obama radicalized a lot of military men that served under him because they had to serve through that shitshow. In my mandatory trainings over that time frame I had to:
attend a 2 hour “seminar” on how to reduce sexual harassment for your personnel with the keynote performance being about asking consent to kiss someone and that if a drunk guy has sex with a sober woman he’s still at fault. There was also mandatory queer sensitivity training, mandatory suicide training which focused on… queers, not service members with PTSD or TBI. A seminar where the civilian “trainer” argued that OPSEC was less important than a nurturing environment for “underprivileged groups”, I could go on for a while with all the shit they shoved out.
Obamas horrible policies politicized military members/veterans to an extreme because he spent his entire time as commander in chief shoving political bullshit down our throats.
i dont think they are psyops(well except for maybe one of them) since they have pretty different personalities and view points about things , usually psyops are easy to spot when they speak in similar ways but i didn't find this to be the case with these 5..
Much like his political representation, the white man who is “both a patriot and doesn’t suck Israeli cock” simply doesn’t exist. He must be Qatari, Indonesian, some other form of Muslim, or a communist/leftist, because there is no true white man who doesn’t love our greatest ally.
The only time I defend muslims is when I am attacking Israel for their cruelty and war
mongering behaviors on the Middle East.
This is partly to bring up the hypocrisy of Jews that scream about Axis war crimes and scream about racism yet are more racist than anyone else and commit more war crimes than anyone else and its also because I think jews are genuinely being horrible in the middle east and are actually invaders there and they get away with war crimes others don't get away with, so I call it out.
But I've never once defended muslims in countries where they don't belong. And I completely oppose muslims in non muslim countries and I've said this many times.
But this isn't good enough for Gizortnik because he's a jew that hates that I side with muslims over jews when it comes to middle eastern affairs and hates that I call out the brutality of the jewish state of Israel against the goyim countries. Because we know they would show that same brutality against all the goyim countries that are in their way and not just against muslims.
Lots of white men join the military. Lots of white men are realising our families have been feeding zog troops for 100 years. Lots of white men like myself found military service to a joke and immoral.
I still advise white men to join the military in order to maintain a power base there and also to get welfare benefits.
If you served during Obama, you were treated to displays of wokist bullshit that had not yet even begun to enter the mainstream consciousness until years and years later.
Such as his "you aren't allowed to shoot at the enemy if there are livestock nearby" rules of engagement policy, or his "men are considered guilty unless proven innocent" recission of the UCMJ, or the "nobody is making E6 this year unless they're a black female, or have 200 points more than normal" promotion policy.
Or my personal favorite, that fat dyke jewess who was touring TRADOC in 2009 giving speeches that the First Amendment shouldn't apply to men.
I’m betting a decent amount of us served under Obummer. The mass DEIing of the military in that timeframe was a red suppository not pill.
ah i see. That's interesting to know. They were trying to brainwash the military first it seems.
They were trying to demoralize the military.
Every year he was in office, war games were run by the Obama administration projecting the outcome of a civil war of red states vs blue states. I participated in one.
The red states won every time they ran the numbers, under the assumption that at least a full third of the US military deserted and joined them.
Obama was trying to tear the military down, because on the whole the military would have sided against him. And he heavily succeeded. Almost anyone worth a good goddamn got out.
I think it's worth remembering that yes, those people got out, but they still have their training, experience, and a newfound resentment for the federal government. Pretty much every American vet I know would undoubtedly be a rebel if the rubber hit the road again. Those people are still on the chessboard.
If vets weren't resentful of the feds during their service, they will after they interact with the US Department of Veteran Affairs. It's yet to top the "plz no suicide kthx" memo after the fall of Afghanistan under Biden.
I posted that one here. I couldn't believe that someone actually decided to send that.
The DVA hasn't reach Canadian levels of bad yet then? That's something
Yeah the vets here in Aus are treated abysmally too. There are a bunch of different pensions and stuff for free/discounted therapy in our semi socialist system. Let's say the vet wants physio and speech path, for a war wound affecting the face. NDIS (properly disabled people under 65) and medicare and aged-medicare/myagedcare are the big 3, and some private health insurance cases too. That there is 90% of their caseload, with another 8% being nominally private, getting some documentation to get onto the NDIS or something. DVA you rarely see, its that final 2% you don't often taketake. But when you do, the clinic either rejects it for it being so bad of a deal for them, pennies, compared to the main pensions and requiring yet more paperwork for something you rarely work with, politely suggest they go and look into getting onto one of the others before you'll see em, or take it on essentially out of charity/patriotism.
Yeah, it seems like a losing move. Now you have a bunch of people with knowledge and experience and no faith in the government, are capable of training others, and now they have a head start because they can start training their groups early instead of whenever they defect. Even if you don't like them, surely keeping them at least placated would be the winning strategy?
Rusted tools are to be discarded, not placated.
The rusted tools will turn neutral lumps of metal into new shiny tools pointed against them. Their new plastic tools wont amount to anything.
its worth noting that the Axis countries were led by military people. Probably why "they" are afraid of such people
They fear the collaborative efforts of strong, moral, intelligent White men working together. I'm sure you can imagine why.
You hear about this sort of thing on anonymous greentext via 4chan, so it's kinda crazy to see someone say 'yeah, they were actually a thing' on a more permanent forum.
I'm kinda curious about what it was like, but given all the vets I know, they have to dance around a bunch of, as my boss calls it, 'secret squirrel bullshit'.
I would like to be able to but yeah, it would be nothing but a lack of concrete details.
I'll say that the consistent results alarmed the administration, that's for sure.
The military is a social experiment platform. Service members sign away the rights they swear to defend, which makes them perfect guinea pigs for any medical, social, cultural experiment imaginable.
Talk about getting vaccinated, the gauntlet of injections received in basic training is on part with the vaccine schedule for children today. You wouldn't believe it.
They had DEI training as early as 2016, preparing leadership for trannies on fucking war ships. Before that, cultural appreciation in decision making and mission accomplishment. It's all done there because there's no escaping one's compliance. Everyone must pipe up and profess their agreement with multiculturalism.
Anyone who has served in the last 20 years absolutely hates their country's government.
Dont Ask Dont Tell expired in 2011, and everyone had to sit through powerpoint hell over that. Service wide.
I sat through it. I was in 1994-2014.
I got the experimental Anthrax shots in the early 2000s, and lawsuits from that are why the military cannot give experimental vaccines to servicemembers. Which, of course, the DoD and FDA step around for COVID by approving a shot with 3 years left on development, and then calling the EUA shot "functionally and legally equivalent" to the approved shot.
Huh, no wonder the US lost the war on terror.
Got video of this?
I do not, wasn't carrying one at the time.
The what now? You couldn't shoot insurgents daring to move supplies by donkey, as is tradition in the region? What insurgent doesn't take their girlfriend when they travel days to fight the Americans
I was in for 20 years, 1994-2014, and was politically active before I went in. 1992 Ruby Ridge and 1993 Waco radicalized me, and I only got more radicalized as time went on.
Ive said this before: watching Obama get elected in 2008 was when I knew, with absolute certainty, that the US as a nation was done, over with, finished, that everything after that was re-arranging the chairs as the ship sank underneath us. That jigabo communist snowed the entire country into electing him, and what is worse, every radical communist saw their opportunity to take over everything, and they have. It is not a coincidence that all the woke stuff got supercharged in 2008.
Assuming they aren't lying - there is a psyops division at Eglin AFB.
That said, most military vets I know/knew didn't actually care about politics. The idea that they're all ultra-patriotic chads is pure propaganda.
Obama radicalized a lot of military men that served under him because they had to serve through that shitshow. In my mandatory trainings over that time frame I had to:
attend a 2 hour “seminar” on how to reduce sexual harassment for your personnel with the keynote performance being about asking consent to kiss someone and that if a drunk guy has sex with a sober woman he’s still at fault. There was also mandatory queer sensitivity training, mandatory suicide training which focused on… queers, not service members with PTSD or TBI. A seminar where the civilian “trainer” argued that OPSEC was less important than a nurturing environment for “underprivileged groups”, I could go on for a while with all the shit they shoved out.
Obamas horrible policies politicized military members/veterans to an extreme because he spent his entire time as commander in chief shoving political bullshit down our throats.
I can only assume Biden was even worse what with fag and tranny parades and fat sheboons getting DEI promotions.
At least you didn't die for Israel so that's good.
The vax mandate was the big radicalization source during Biden's term.
i dont think they are psyops(well except for maybe one of them) since they have pretty different personalities and view points about things , usually psyops are easy to spot when they speak in similar ways but i didn't find this to be the case with these 5..
I know at least two of them sperg out hardcore if you mention a certain "ally"
yes but a few of them are also anti israel and another one seems more neutral . Like i said there are some mixed opinions there.
Wonder what they think about the liberty
I was in when Bush was in office. I heard it got really bad with Obama
Which Bush? You have to specify, some of us are old enough to remember both of them... ;)
True. The second Bush
Probably more people going in and out. The MIC needs its cannon fodder.
My 30 year retired zoguncle hits that unfortunately. Even has the asian wife and libshit selfhating happa child…
Miscegenation is probably an important sin to take stock of the effects of unfortunately… :(
I served under Clinton and only really woke up/got politically interested when Obama got elected and I could feel the woke shift.
The Qatari is sniffing around for identities to steal.
You sound like a blm fag
He's just jewish.
Much like his political representation, the white man who is “both a patriot and doesn’t suck Israeli cock” simply doesn’t exist. He must be Qatari, Indonesian, some other form of Muslim, or a communist/leftist, because there is no true white man who doesn’t love our greatest ally.
The only time I defend muslims is when I am attacking Israel for their cruelty and war mongering behaviors on the Middle East.
This is partly to bring up the hypocrisy of Jews that scream about Axis war crimes and scream about racism yet are more racist than anyone else and commit more war crimes than anyone else and its also because I think jews are genuinely being horrible in the middle east and are actually invaders there and they get away with war crimes others don't get away with, so I call it out.
But I've never once defended muslims in countries where they don't belong. And I completely oppose muslims in non muslim countries and I've said this many times.
But this isn't good enough for Gizortnik because he's a jew that hates that I side with muslims over jews when it comes to middle eastern affairs and hates that I call out the brutality of the jewish state of Israel against the goyim countries. Because we know they would show that same brutality against all the goyim countries that are in their way and not just against muslims.
You're a fool there are plenty, and most of them aren't Socialists.
That's the point. Socialists don't have a monopoly on any identity group.
He could be acting but from things he said I think he's a SE asian.
Why SE Asian in particular? He’s not had anything to say about the recent Thailand-Cambodia scuffle, and you’d kind of expect a Southeast Asian might.
I have zero idea what it is I've said that gives you the impression that I'm SE Asian.
That would explain his affinity for Islam if he was Indonesian.
Eglin AFB is very active on political websites
The military is such a hardcore bureaucracy that is barely working that you then start asking why anyone would want anything like this.
Lots of time for internet when you're getting $6,000 a month from your fake disability
Lots of white men join the military. Lots of white men are realising our families have been feeding zog troops for 100 years. Lots of white men like myself found military service to a joke and immoral.
I still advise white men to join the military in order to maintain a power base there and also to get welfare benefits.