Dave Smith...I agree with him on an absolute shit ton, but he's also sometimes a histrionic bitch. He threw Trump out with the bathwater way too quick on this one. At least let shit shit play out a bit before you pull out the - so to speak - nuclear option.
My take? Trump could do anything, and I wouldn't regret voting for him. Not because I'm a cultist, but because Candidate Trump was infinitely better than Candidate Harris. I will never regret voting for Trump, because based on the information I had at the time, he was the best pick. He ran on not doing WW3, Harris ran on doing WW3. Trump could do plenty of things to make me feel he had betrayed me, but my '24 vote was solid at the time. Dave Smith is being whiny, and should have let things simmer a bit. He's still largely correct, just overreacting and being a bit over the top. He jumped the gun, basically.
I don't regret voting for Trump either. he was 100% the best candidate, and that is the sad state of our presidential elections.
that said, if he drags the us into a war without Congressional approval, I would support impeaching him. that would mean Vance takes office, and I'm not opposed to that.
I would like to return to the days Congress actually approving our war time actions, instead of these bullshit """"police"""" actions that we've had since Korea.
So you do remember Obama's multiple "actions" without any form of Congressional approval, eh?
The PotUS is allowed to order military action, but on a limited time scale. He's supposed to get Congressional OK before (iirc) 30 days is up. There's been no action at all yet against Iran, so we'll just have to wait and see how it unfolds.
I remember a lot of them, including Obama's, Bush's, Clinton's. these so-called military actions spread Way beyond 30 days, and where our effective involvement in wars without a congressional approval. It was never okay, and it's not okay today.
officially there is no military action, but Trump is speaking as if we have military action so I will not be surprised if there is action being done off the books..
Dave Smith is being whiny, and should have let things simmer a bit.
Don't you think it's better go for the nuclear option in an effort to prevent shit hitting the fan than waiting for shit hitting the fan and then having to clean up the mess? Politicians do not deserve the benefit of the doubt. As long as politicians aren't more afraid of the people than the rats hiding in the walls nothing will ever change.
Immediately calling Trump scum, a terrible person, and that he should be impeached and jailed is over the top.
I'll have to disagree considering that Trump seems to have used the negotiations as a diversion tactic so Israel could attack Iran unprepared. He's already complicit and already has committed acts of war against Iran. Iran would be completely justified in striking US bases already but fortunately hasn't done so.
As long as Trump surrounds himself with Zionist war hawks you have to get very fucking loud to make yourself heard.
It's not about trusting him or not, it's about not overreacting and sounding ridiculous.
Like I said. Lines have already been crossed. We're well past overreacting.
I agree with almost everything you said, I still just think it wasn't a great reaction. Because it's still kind of wink wink nudge nudge, and we don't know for sure. It's fairly likely Trump knew...but it's also possible he didn't or, if the US was involved, they went behind his back again.
Trump seems stressed as Hell, and that he doesn't like what's going on, but is going along with some of it. Although I also tend to believe the reports that he is trying to disengage, and is holding back on strikes. It fits some of the intel, that got other stuff right like the initial Israeli strikes. I think we'd already be at war if Trump didn't override the plan.
The Israeli strikes had US backing, because everything they do has US backing. That's disgusting, and I utterly condemn it. If Trump knew, I absolutely condemn it. And I do condemn his rhetoric after the fact, too. I like almost nothing that is going on, and I'm not impressed with Trump.
Iran would be completely justified in striking US bases already but fortunately hasn't done so.
Yup. It's never a great position where you just hope your enemy are willing to take it on the chin, and not react, even if they're justified. The US did Fuck Around with Iran, for sure. It would be completely reasonable to Find Out. Hopefully that doesn't happen.
As long as Trump surrounds himself with Zionist war hawks you have to get very fucking loud to make yourself heard.
I get where you coming from. It was a hyperbolic reaction. But deservedly so. And let's be honest it's not like it's going to hurt Trump unless he decides to give in to the Zionists surrounding him. Almost everything about US politics is hyperbolic after all.
And let's be honest it's not like it's going to hurt Trump...
My concern isn't hurting Trump. If anything, I think this hurts Dave Smith. Because it was a silly reaction that jumped the gun in a big way, that makes him look a bit ridiculous.
Again, call out the war, warn not to get further involved, say to back out. Immediately jumping to Trump is Hitler gets us nowhere. Especially if you're actually trying to get results, as Trump doesn't respond to that form of criticism.
My take? Trump could do anything, and I wouldn't regret voting for him. Not because I'm a cultist, but because Candidate Trump was infinitely better than Candidate Harris. I will never regret voting for Trump, because based on the information I had at the time, he was the best pick. He ran on not doing WW3, Harris ran on doing WW3. Trump could do plenty of things to make me feel he had betrayed me, but my '24 vote was solid at the time.
I'm of two minds on this topic. On one hand, you're absolutely right about Trump vs. Harris, and we would probably be fighting in Ukraine if Harris won.
On the other hand, if we go to war with Iran, Trump will be perpetuating the same cycle that the other Democrats and Republicans have kept going for the last 30 years. Destroy Middle Eastern countries, create a massive number of refugees, and hasten the demographic collapse of the Western World. Frankly, I don't expect there to be a Western Civilization of note in the next 50 years if this continues.
Trump was elected precisely so that he could slow the collapse, at the very least. Seeing him hasten it in this way, make him look like an idiot at best, and a traitor at worst.
On the other hand, if we go to war with Iran, Trump will be perpetuating the same cycle that the other Democrats and Republicans have kept going for the last 30 years.
And I will absolutely condemn him as an abominable monster and traitor, if he does that. But that's different than regretting my vote. Like you said, we'd probably already be officially at war in Ukraine or something if he hadn't won.
Like I said, there's plenty he could do that would make me feel betrayed, and make me stop supporting him. World War 3 is pretty much the top of the list, too. But I will never regret my vote. I voted correctly in 2024, no matter what. Even if Trump does something that ends up making me despise him, he was the better candidate at the time. I will never apologize for voting for him. Unlike Dave Smith. Who I like, for the record. I just think he's wrong on his stance, and/or phrasing of it.
Trump was elected precisely so that he could slow the collapse, at the very least. Seeing him hasten it in this way, make him look like an idiot at best, and a traitor at worst.
No argument from me. I'm very disappointed. I'm just willing to give things a bit more time before declaring war on Trump. I still hope we can avoid the broader conflict.
TL;DR: Trump could do a lot to lose my support...but voting for Trump with the information we had on hand in the 2024 election was the correct move, and I will never regret it.
I mean, even if Trump descends fully into Bush tier neocon shittery, Kamala would have still been a worse choice. Hell, I would go so far as to say he could have run on neocon shittery and I would still conclude Kamala was worse for the country. I would hate it every step of the way, but that's how bad the democrats are right now. Like 10 million more illegals in 4 years of Kamala. At some point the country is just lost.
Between a new war for Israel, backing down on worksite deportations, and selling the western lands to billionaires, Trump has virtually annihilated all my goodwill in like a week flat.
My very brief response, before I go to bed.
Tucker is, as is often the case, spot on.
Dave Smith...I agree with him on an absolute shit ton, but he's also sometimes a histrionic bitch. He threw Trump out with the bathwater way too quick on this one. At least let shit shit play out a bit before you pull out the - so to speak - nuclear option.
My take? Trump could do anything, and I wouldn't regret voting for him. Not because I'm a cultist, but because Candidate Trump was infinitely better than Candidate Harris. I will never regret voting for Trump, because based on the information I had at the time, he was the best pick. He ran on not doing WW3, Harris ran on doing WW3. Trump could do plenty of things to make me feel he had betrayed me, but my '24 vote was solid at the time. Dave Smith is being whiny, and should have let things simmer a bit. He's still largely correct, just overreacting and being a bit over the top. He jumped the gun, basically.
Netanyahu...fuck this evil shit.
Trump...time will tell.
Cruz...embarrassing, man. Wow.
Huckabee...evil. Also retarded.
I don't regret voting for Trump either. he was 100% the best candidate, and that is the sad state of our presidential elections.
that said, if he drags the us into a war without Congressional approval, I would support impeaching him. that would mean Vance takes office, and I'm not opposed to that.
I would like to return to the days Congress actually approving our war time actions, instead of these bullshit """"police"""" actions that we've had since Korea.
So you do remember Obama's multiple "actions" without any form of Congressional approval, eh?
The PotUS is allowed to order military action, but on a limited time scale. He's supposed to get Congressional OK before (iirc) 30 days is up. There's been no action at all yet against Iran, so we'll just have to wait and see how it unfolds.
I remember a lot of them, including Obama's, Bush's, Clinton's. these so-called military actions spread Way beyond 30 days, and where our effective involvement in wars without a congressional approval. It was never okay, and it's not okay today.
officially there is no military action, but Trump is speaking as if we have military action so I will not be surprised if there is action being done off the books..
Trump still has 28 days to either wind up the action or get approval. Roughly.
Don't you think it's better go for the nuclear option in an effort to prevent shit hitting the fan than waiting for shit hitting the fan and then having to clean up the mess? Politicians do not deserve the benefit of the doubt. As long as politicians aren't more afraid of the people than the rats hiding in the walls nothing will ever change.
Absolutely call out the war. Make it clear you don't want it, and you won't support Trump at that point.
Immediately calling Trump scum, a terrible person, and that he should be impeached and jailed is over the top.
It's not about trusting him or not, it's about not overreacting and sounding ridiculous.
I'll have to disagree considering that Trump seems to have used the negotiations as a diversion tactic so Israel could attack Iran unprepared. He's already complicit and already has committed acts of war against Iran. Iran would be completely justified in striking US bases already but fortunately hasn't done so.
As long as Trump surrounds himself with Zionist war hawks you have to get very fucking loud to make yourself heard.
Like I said. Lines have already been crossed. We're well past overreacting.
I agree with almost everything you said, I still just think it wasn't a great reaction. Because it's still kind of wink wink nudge nudge, and we don't know for sure. It's fairly likely Trump knew...but it's also possible he didn't or, if the US was involved, they went behind his back again.
Trump seems stressed as Hell, and that he doesn't like what's going on, but is going along with some of it. Although I also tend to believe the reports that he is trying to disengage, and is holding back on strikes. It fits some of the intel, that got other stuff right like the initial Israeli strikes. I think we'd already be at war if Trump didn't override the plan.
The Israeli strikes had US backing, because everything they do has US backing. That's disgusting, and I utterly condemn it. If Trump knew, I absolutely condemn it. And I do condemn his rhetoric after the fact, too. I like almost nothing that is going on, and I'm not impressed with Trump.
Yup. It's never a great position where you just hope your enemy are willing to take it on the chin, and not react, even if they're justified. The US did Fuck Around with Iran, for sure. It would be completely reasonable to Find Out. Hopefully that doesn't happen.
Yup.
I get where you coming from. It was a hyperbolic reaction. But deservedly so. And let's be honest it's not like it's going to hurt Trump unless he decides to give in to the Zionists surrounding him. Almost everything about US politics is hyperbolic after all.
My concern isn't hurting Trump. If anything, I think this hurts Dave Smith. Because it was a silly reaction that jumped the gun in a big way, that makes him look a bit ridiculous.
Again, call out the war, warn not to get further involved, say to back out. Immediately jumping to Trump is Hitler gets us nowhere. Especially if you're actually trying to get results, as Trump doesn't respond to that form of criticism.
I sincerely hope you are correct. But if this ends in Israels favor, even if it is just a regime change, we'll know for certain who Trump answers to.
I'm of two minds on this topic. On one hand, you're absolutely right about Trump vs. Harris, and we would probably be fighting in Ukraine if Harris won.
On the other hand, if we go to war with Iran, Trump will be perpetuating the same cycle that the other Democrats and Republicans have kept going for the last 30 years. Destroy Middle Eastern countries, create a massive number of refugees, and hasten the demographic collapse of the Western World. Frankly, I don't expect there to be a Western Civilization of note in the next 50 years if this continues.
Trump was elected precisely so that he could slow the collapse, at the very least. Seeing him hasten it in this way, make him look like an idiot at best, and a traitor at worst.
And I will absolutely condemn him as an abominable monster and traitor, if he does that. But that's different than regretting my vote. Like you said, we'd probably already be officially at war in Ukraine or something if he hadn't won.
Like I said, there's plenty he could do that would make me feel betrayed, and make me stop supporting him. World War 3 is pretty much the top of the list, too. But I will never regret my vote. I voted correctly in 2024, no matter what. Even if Trump does something that ends up making me despise him, he was the better candidate at the time. I will never apologize for voting for him. Unlike Dave Smith. Who I like, for the record. I just think he's wrong on his stance, and/or phrasing of it.
No argument from me. I'm very disappointed. I'm just willing to give things a bit more time before declaring war on Trump. I still hope we can avoid the broader conflict.
TL;DR: Trump could do a lot to lose my support...but voting for Trump with the information we had on hand in the 2024 election was the correct move, and I will never regret it.
I mean, even if Trump descends fully into Bush tier neocon shittery, Kamala would have still been a worse choice. Hell, I would go so far as to say he could have run on neocon shittery and I would still conclude Kamala was worse for the country. I would hate it every step of the way, but that's how bad the democrats are right now. Like 10 million more illegals in 4 years of Kamala. At some point the country is just lost.
harris should never have been allowed to run for dog catcher, let alone president.
fucking foreigner
It has lefty meme energy.
Wall of text crits you for 99999 [un?]Holy damage.
You die, [of apathy].
tl;dr
Most lefty memes are. They just glance at the pictures and think it's Nobel Prize worthy. 😃 Same for books: Nice title! Nice cover! Nobel Prize!
Between a new war for Israel, backing down on worksite deportations, and selling the western lands to billionaires, Trump has virtually annihilated all my goodwill in like a week flat.
Those are, supposedly, back on the table.
right before this kicked of the whole Elon feud and epstein file accusations happened, too.
Didn't recognize Mike Huckabee with a beard.