"We wuzzery" is the short form of "we wuz kangz," which is black people claiming that they were the ancestors of anyone that's ever done anything in history, such as Egyptians, Mozart, Israelites, the entire island of Briton, etc.
Lately I've noticed some right wingers on X trend into the wuzzery as well. For example, the claim that ancient Chinese emperors were white has been doing the rounds for at least a few months. This is based on remains called the Tarim mummies that were excavated in Xinjiang and exhibit red hair. So it seems there is some basis to this... until you look at a map and see that Xinjiang borders Kyrgyzstan in the northwest and wasn't even really part of China until recently. So we're talking about white mummies found near the Caucasus. Earthshattering.
The other claim, and probably weirder, is that Jesus was a white European. I understand the motivation behind it - Christian heritage is a significant factor in today's right wing, but due to present views of Jewish culture the idea that Jesus was ethnically Jewish sticks in people's craws. Also, this countersignals the infamous kangz idea that Jesus was black.
Unfortunately there is no evidence that Jesus was white in the European sense and the Biblical record in Matthew and Luke clearly states via genealogy that He was born to the tribe of Judah. ("Jew" means member of Judah.) Revelations also calls Jesus the "Lion of the Tribe of Judah." In terms of appearance, that would be something like the modern Lebanese.
I guess the lesson here is that even anonymous discourse can tilt away from the facts when under cultural and political pressures.
The entire Mediterranean was White in antiquity. North Africa and the Levant were only browned after early medieval Arab invasions, like what is currently being done to Western Europe.
More Olive-Skinned, Similar to Greeks.
Basically anywhere that has riding horses or chariots was influenced or invaded by what we call "Caucasians" that is the Scythian/Gothic/Germanic people who originated around the Caucasus mountains.
I highly suggest watching the videos by Asha Logos covering history.
Based suggestion, I'm already a fan of his channel.
What you think is an ethnic jew is not the same thing as hebrew people from the bible
Yeah, Ashkenazis are an admixture of Jews and Europeans. Hence why Jesus would resemble modern peoples that are more semitic, like Lebanese or Palestinian Christians.
edit: Lol I think most of you are inferring that I think Jesus was brown or black. Lebanese are white
Maybe a visual aid would help.
https://ibb.co/BKC8pvBm
Good man, good man
"His golden colored hair and beard gave to his appearance a celestial aspect."
does not describe a person who looks like a modern leb
That quote comes from a collection of apocryphal writings that were fabricated hundreds of years after the Crucifixion to bolster a pro-Pilate attitude. Catholics have a lot of traditions about sacred objects but even they admit as such.
The prophecy about Jesus' appearance in Isaiah 53 is, "He has no form or comeliness; and when we see Him, there is no beauty that we should desire Him."
Don't they believe mostly the same shit, though?
Regarding the red hair I know some tribes in Central America talk about red haired people teaching them things in the ancient past. Never heard about the Chinese claim
Red hair is a global trait, it's just a rounding error anywhere outside Ireland and Scotland.
There is a recessive gene in some Central and North Asian groups that produces red hair more commonly. You'll see it occasionally in Mongolia, Kazakhstan and some of the other northern Stan countries, as well as Xinjiang. Especially small villages or nomadic populations where the gene pool is smaller. There's been some speculation that Genghis Khan and some of his children may have had red or auburn hair.
It's not speculation, it's literally in all of the Mongolian depictions / history that he had red hair. The speculation is that he was of more proto-European ancestry (Russian / Scythian / Yamnaya) rather than what we'd see as a modern Mongolian (heavily mixed with Chinese).
Ignoring for a second that Jesus Christ was the son of God, he's described as Galilean. Even today, after two more millennia of interbreeding with Arabs, there are still Galileans with blonde hair and blue or grey eyes. The picture that's been floating around the internet for 20 years that supposedly depicts how Jesus "really looked like" (and apparently it's like a fucking Cro-Magnon Saddam Hussein) is reddit-tier junk science.
https://communities.win/c/ConsumeProduct/p/15HbS6KkQk/facts/c
^from the archives
Edit - just realized some fag removed the post, here’s the direct link to the image:
https://i.imgflip.com/6citdj.jpg
That said, I do think the racial history of the world is far more interesting than the mainstream lets on - there’s a reason so many “primitive” groups worship/are mythically ruled by Whites (e.g. Indians with their Brahmin, South Americans with Quetzalcoatl, Persians with the Aryans, Greeks with the Hyperboreans, and so on) - I think that humanity has risen and fallen in the past, and I think that after such a cataclysm the “advanced” peoples are forced to settle amongst the “primitive” people, primarily for survival reasons
I'd say that's because Adam and Eve were close to what we would describe as white. Lol
So Adam and Eve (origin of all humanity, apparently) were white but you think Jesus, just a few dozen generations later, was definitely brown and people who say he was white have a weird claim? I don’t really get the logic
Also, there is an interesting link between whites spread around the globe, giants, and red hair, beyond just the Chinese and Egyptian mummies:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rf_inGOubEg&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD
Levantine people, which would most resemble Jesus, have white skin, not brown. But they are not white Europeans like Germanics, Normans, etc.
Re: "a few dozen generations" there are 4,000 years separating Jesus' generation from Adam and Eve through Biblical chronology, plenty of time for humans to biodiversify.
Surely they have a common origin?
Idk, maybe, but going by the text there are only either 3 sets of 14 (Matthew) or 77 (Luke, and which we know to be a symbolic number likely not meant to be taken literally) - a far cry from the 200 one might assume mathematically - it seems like most of this “biodiversity” is relatively recent.
But fair enough, very little is clear cut in these conversations, and much that one takes for granted may just as readily be tossed aside as junk by another looking to speak on the subject. I think it’s an interesting subject so thanks for posting.
Of course, it just depends on when you think they diverged.
Yeah it doesn't neatly divide into the 20 year/generation assumption because of the staggering ages of early ancestors (some of them over 500 or 900 years old).
If the speaker believes humans were put into existence in their contemporary form, why would you think that things like genetic inheritance of physical traits would be a limitation for them?
My point is it isn’t totally clear what the speaker believes - he appears to argue simultaneously that the first humans were obviously white while their descendant was obviously not white, though he may just be saying, in response to my last comment, “the reason so many primitive groups mythologize/worship whites is because of Adam and Eve being white”, which isn’t super clear but atleast makes some sense and doesn’t (seemingly) invalidate his arguments in the OP
That's because you foolishly think only Europeans are white
Where did I say that?
I don't see how anyone could believe in Jesus and not believe he was a Jew. His genealogy is an important indicator that this person is actually Jesus that I've been promising would be coming. Those that claim he wasn't white in color are idiots though, ethnic Jews are generally all white. It's one of the things that piss me off about them, they are white when it suits them and some other race when it doesn't. He wouldn't have looked like a dark brown turbanite just because they live in those areas now.
Oh, I totally believe Jesus was a hebrew. I don't belew modern jews are.
Yep, pretty much. Jesus' ministry was completely in and of the Jews and their system as well - basically giving them one last shot to honor their Chosen People status. They crucified Him instead and hence the mantle of the chosen people passed to followers of Christ.
Chinese emperor thing seems stupid. I think Ghengis Khan is said to have had red hair and a pale skinned red head grandpa in Chinese records though. (He apparently had some reservations of Kublai's paternity since he didn't have red hair)
I don't think Jesus was Euro, but I think the traditional depiction of him is perfectly plausible.
The earliest known depictions of him had him look that way and were made by Egyptian Christians, not Europeans.
Lebanese people I met who left before the civil war could not be distinguished from white people visually.
Steve Jobs was adopted and was ethnically a Syrian Arab, but he looked just like Jesus in the early 70s. Take the funny clothes off and they look pretty white.
People say he couldn't have had long hair because they cut it short in Roman times. But they only cut it once a year because it was time consuming before scissors were invented. I got frequent 'You like like Jesus' comments with 11 months of hair growth from a close crop and a 1 month beard.
Probably James Lindsay bots
This is the most Jew post I’ve seen…this week.
I like this term "We wuzzery". it's a great way to condense the nigger behavior that is to take pride in other people's accomplishments, ignoring your own lack of accomplishment.
How is this new? Nazis claimed everything no? I mean obviously there's more merit to more of it than with blacks, but if course your two examples are silly. I'm not a fan of anyone stealing other people's culture for their own
Red Hair was around for a few thousand years, but we're talking 10,000-12,000 BC, so don't try to make assumptions on cultures today.
I remember getting a phone call from a friend asking what Christ looked like. I told him he looked like the then president of Iran.
The discussion does get fun. Depictions of people in foreign lands often had them looking like Europeans when drawn by Europeans. So the Japanese or Native tribes of the Americas looked the same.
Buddha was Indian, but our most common depiction of him is Chinese. If you ever looked, Christ looks Chinese in their depictions as well.
The Japanese depicted Europeans as Asian with funny clothes in Ukiyoe paper rapping designs.