Every nation including the US currently marching towards complete and total seizure of the free exchange of information. Their reasons are different but the goal is the same. Expect the proliferation of 'regional china-style' internet in a few years. Maybe sooner because of AI tools
What actual good does that do besides makes you feel better? Nothing you archive is free of manipulation in the slightest.
Also who the hell is even making a list of these "archivals"? I laughed at this place's impotent paranoid obsession with the archive links, as if any of you fuckers were ever going to come back to this article, ever, and you actually believe it will be entirely replaced or something. Archiving even makes it nearly impossible to search for anything, unless you autists literally build a database reference for every link you find in which case you're incredibly mentally ill.
And besides what are you going to do? In five years someone mentions the centralization or prohibition of encryption and you're going to dig through your links for an archive and post it and think anyone will open your wierdo link of nonsense? Archive.xx could manipulate the data too. You could have manipulated it. The data on the page could be completely made up fabrications even at the time of archival. Nobody is going to care about your archive link anyone because archive.xx is a fucking pain in the ass. "Here read this broken image of a website snap that barely functions, forces you through a captcha, and takes five minutes to load" lol lmao.
Of course archive.xx will probably be going down here pretty soon what with all the lawsuits and what good did it do? You gonna host your own schizo server of the millions of gigs of sites you obsessively downloaded? For what purpose? Who even is paying for all that data? You probably aren't.
It's such a useless effort, but it's cute you think it matters.
EDIT: lol the down votes. I forgot that that pathetic sad little impotent exercise of "rebellion" was this place's stupid 'thing'. You mentally ill worthless retards aren't gonna do shit with your "archives" but it lets you feel powerful and therefore it feels like an attack against you personally to have your gay little Cargo Cult called in to question.
Never forget you cowardly blowhards didn't do fuck all during covid but you think your little archives matter.
I was never an archivist, but somewhere around ten years ago noticed things disappearing. Now I have plenty of things saved I couldn't find again without massive effort.
People don't understand how ephemeral the data is that cannot be profited from. For example, downloaded a bunch of great mixes from mixcloud a couple months ago, fast-forward a bit, whole channel gets wiped without notice.
Also, if the web gets nuked, archived copies stored locally that you previously never reviewed will suddenly become your new library.
Yeah, we don't use them now becir everything still works, but it'll become useful when everything stops working.
By this guy's logic, no one should keep a spare tire in their car, or canned food in their pantry "because you don't use it daily". Well yeah, that's the point, all of this is for emergencies.
If the internet goes the way people fear, then one day we may all lose access to such things.
They're already targeting Archive for copyright (it's a claim that technically has merit). If the Internet goes that way:
First, your Archive links will literally all be gone.
Second, you're going to have no way to share it with anyone.
And third, as much as it sucks to hear, it doesn't make a single difference what you have and never will. I've seen gun owning conservatives lurch from tyrannical overreach to tyrannical overreach and never once did they do shit so what good does some storage of obsolete articles matter to anyone? Half the trash people here archive is retarded meme tweets which nobody needs to save.
And really at any rate, archive it for yourself.
But why punish us with these shitty links?
Archive is trash. The websites are frequently broken and barely readable. Links don't work. Media often gets lost because they're delivered through a CDN that doesn't get archived with the rest of the page.
And worst of all it obfuscates what you're sending me to. I don't want to have to click an archive link to read an "article" on a website called 911PATRIOTTRUEHEALTHNEWS.biz.
Everything on the internet is a lie. What exactly is your metric for archival and what dilo you ever think you'll do with it?
The metric is probably "it says things I agree with". That doesn't mean it's true. It's like the "6,000,000/number of ovens*hours" calculation. It's a lie, because the 6 million figure actually had nothing to do with cremations. Yet some people get really mad when you point that out. Wooden gas chamber doors? It was exactly one door in one camp that held no prisoners.
Some people recognize that these are lies but recognize their memetic potential: they aren't supposed to be taken seriously. However many others actually believe these are bulletproof arguments and completely true.
So would you actually have any way of knowing if your Dissident websites are also full of lies? Or would you unwittingly fall for them because you agree with it?
In either case, then what is the point of archival? You shouldn't need anything to archive. You should be comfortable just making shit up and claiming it's true, because everything on the internet is made up shit. Everybody makes up lies to support their opinions all the time.
So I don't need to archive shit. Everything ever written by anyone is a lie, so I'll just believe what I want. Anyone who wants sources for anything is a fag.
The last time someone linked me to a dissident website it was a "debunking the debunking of the protocols" and it was literally hundreds upon hundreds of pages of schizophrenic raving that made no sense and barely addressed anything. But people believed it because they wanted to.
The entire world has been completely fake for decades. Literally every dissident I met pretends they're a 6'7" yoked Aryan living on a 600 acre homestead with 14 homeschooled children and 88 million dollars in crypto.
It's a big lie. So what good does archiving lies do.
I feel like you're arguing against some fictitious adversary. You're arguing against things no one here is saying.
Archives existed before archive websites. I've basically "saved" numerous webpages I liked locally. You can also print them (physically, on paper). I have loads of software like CS5 before everything became subscription only so that heaven forbid I can still have certain tools if the web goes down or adobe goes under.
And even little apps like resizers, file converters, drivers, all come in handy.
I also don't get the vitriol. No one here attacked you, but you are going on a tear.
By the way, I managed to turn local government policy into abandoning the clot shot mandates. What were you able to accomplish against that bioterror attack?
It's 2025. The left basically gave up giving a shit about the vaccine two years ago. best case scenario, all you did was restore the status quo.
And thus the question is eternally begged: "if the clot shot was so horrible why did not once did anyone associated with it even so much as get punched in the mouth".
The reason the right clings to the gay vaccine as their moment of rebellion is because "I didn't get the shot" literally just required you to sit at home and do nothing and that's the only thing the right is good at doing.
Afraid. Lol. I bet you think the government wants to take guns because they're afraid too. Most of you think the government machine gunned 500 people in Vegas for no reason except to have a laugh, and you didn't do shit. Nobody is afraid.
The reason I don't believe that is because the idea that the vaccine was actually "mandated" for private citizens
It was mandated here. Now, it's not. And I managed to dump enough data to prove that setting another clot shot mandate will be disastrous to them in the next election. Data that you fear enough to try and dissuade people from acquiring.
At any rate, what does your victory actually matter now?
Lives saved, economy recovered and a new public attitude of distrust against big pharma.
It's 2025. The left basically gave up giving a shit about the vaccine two years ago.
They want it back. To them, the pandemic never ended.
And this the question is eternally begged: "if the clot shot was so horrible why did literally not once did anyone associated with it even so much as get punched in the mouth".
I don't feel the need to punch local officials who admitted that the mandates were misguided when faced with damning evidence. Now if I was actually American, things would be different. Now I'll repeat my question since you appear to have forgotten to answer;
I bet you think the government wants to take guns because they're afraid too.
Oh yeah, they are. Nothing says absolute terror than immediately having to resort to the use of nuclear weapons.
Most of you think the government machine gunned 500 people in Vegas for no reason except to have a laugh, and you didn't do shit.
That's a very interesting confession.
Nobody is afraid.
Your fear is almost palpable.
What were you able to accomplish against that bioterror attack?
Now if I was actually American, things would be different.
See that changes some things. In the US private individual mandate was completely fabricated by the minds of obese "rebels" who still pretend they won some great war. In reality unless you planned to fly somewhere it didn't matter. Nobody actually cared.
At any rate if you're outside the United States, as worthless as the situation in the US is, everywhere else is 40-50 years behind us.
I don't feel the need to punch local officials who admitted that the mandates were misguided when faced with damning evidence.
Do you believe Bill Gates is depopulating the world with killer vaccines? Shouldn't he be stopped? Isn't it reasonable to find it incredibly suspicious nobody, not once, was even busted by the cops for planning to put a bullet in him?
Is it not therefore reasonable to notice that despite believing him to be the most vile human to ever exist, who presents an existential threat to the world, that those who believe that genuinely do nothing but cry online about it almost certainly means that they are not serious about anything?
Like I said, the entire Internet is a psyop designed to control people and that absolutely includes "dissidents" who reside terminally online.
What are the odds that conspiracy theories are created and run by the government? It's not even close to zero. Dissident websites and reading materials? Not even close to zero.
In fact many things make more sense when you accept that it's actually almost certain that conspiracy theories are entirely a product of the government specifically to drive "dissidents" in to paranoid psychotic states where they waste their lives squinting at pixels for some retarded shit that happened twenty years ago and nobody cares about anymore.
See that changes some things. In the US private individual mandate was completely fabricated by the minds of obese "rebels" who still pretend they won some great war.
Ah, so you're one of those 'there were no mask/vax mandates!' cretins. Hate to break it to you, but the government was behind these "private sector" mandates you desperately try deflecting on. I see you've deleted that part of your reply, good thing I quoted it.
You cowardly worm.
Is it not therefore reasonable to notice that despite believing him to be the most vile human to ever exist, who presents an existential threat to the world, that those who believe that genuinely do nothing but cry online about it almost certainly means that they are not serious about anything?
Oh naw, Bill Gates is a small fry compared to the things that own him. Your effort to have a gnat like him whacked by a personal army request is funny, though. The moment he dies, another will replace him. You're too blinded by fear to realize just how deep the rot goes.
What are the odds that conspiracy theories are created and run by the government? It's not even close to zero. Dissident websites and reading materials? Not even close to zero.
I prefer the new metric; if the state media calls it a conspiracy theory, they probably are behind it.
In fact many things make more sense when you accept that it's actually almost certain that conspiracy theories are entirely a product of the government specifically to drive "dissidents" in to paranoid psychotic states where they waste their lives squinting at pixels for some retarded shit that happened twenty years ago and nobody cares about anymore.
You perceive it as 'paranoid psychotic states'. I see them as potential. The fact that you have to use such outdated descriptions makes you really sound like a desperate fedboy trying to dissuade archival because that was what's key to winning previous conflicts. Information.
By the way, thats a lot of words to try and avoid the fact that you did nothing to counter the scamdemic and its mandates. What does that make you? A terminally-online coward, too weak and afraid of the world powers to do anything.
You lot are the ones who believe way more insane, extreme shit. Most of you think the government circled helicopters around Vegas machine gunning right wingers at a concert for a laugh.
What's the excuse for believing something so insanely evil and not done shit about it? Cowardice or is "believing" that stuff actually just a big online LARP and you don't really believe it?
Oh I would absolutely love to hear your analysis on how you arrived at that conclusion. Let's all remind each other, before you do that, that you actually believe you are not a stupid person.
Please, regale us with the fruits of your investigation.
EDIT: Note that you invented a fake non-argument as an "excuse" to not explain why you're a limp-dicked little fat coward. You obese fucks run through the same script, you just talk big shit to each other day in and day out for a dozen hours a day, and when it comes to action you are nothing but a bunch of excuses.
I bet you were ecstatic to come up with this "you're a bong" excuse so you don't have to answer the question of why you're a worthless little shithead whose done nothing. And you still won't answer. You never will answer.
Quit hiding from the truth, that you're just a worthless coward playing a tough-guy online.
"Distraction" narratives aren't real and make you sound like a fucking Boomer. Shut the hell up with that gay shit already.
"OH I WATCHED AN HOUR OF EUROVISION I GUESS MAGICALLY MY MIND ERASED THE ENTIRE CONCEPT OF TIME FOR THAT PERIOD, HOWEVER COULD I POSSIBLY BE INFORMED OF EVENTS THAT TRANSPIRED DURING THAT HOUR?!?"
Do you think that if you don't catch a podcast live that it's gone forever?
Do you actually believe that if Europeans weren't "distracted by Eurovision" that this article would have them in the streets rioting and overthrowing their governments?
Lmao fag
Your average person doomscrolls through like 200+ fucking articles and videos a day, there literally is no such thing as a distraction.
Like you think the fucking town crier was gonna show up for only ten minutes before moving on to the next town and if you didn't turn out to listen you would miss the news for a month.
There will come a day when it is safer to use chinese internet providers. Not because they don’t spy. But because they don’t cooperate with people who will arrest you for some bullshit reason
Is this a serious proposal or is it like when a senator here comes up with a witty name for a bill to outlaw insider trading and absolutely nothing happens, or like when some commentator here lies or misinterprets something like "Russia plans to ban anime figures"?
Every nation including the US currently marching towards complete and total seizure of the free exchange of information. Their reasons are different but the goal is the same. Expect the proliferation of 'regional china-style' internet in a few years. Maybe sooner because of AI tools
What actual good does that do besides makes you feel better? Nothing you archive is free of manipulation in the slightest.
Also who the hell is even making a list of these "archivals"? I laughed at this place's impotent paranoid obsession with the archive links, as if any of you fuckers were ever going to come back to this article, ever, and you actually believe it will be entirely replaced or something. Archiving even makes it nearly impossible to search for anything, unless you autists literally build a database reference for every link you find in which case you're incredibly mentally ill.
And besides what are you going to do? In five years someone mentions the centralization or prohibition of encryption and you're going to dig through your links for an archive and post it and think anyone will open your wierdo link of nonsense? Archive.xx could manipulate the data too. You could have manipulated it. The data on the page could be completely made up fabrications even at the time of archival. Nobody is going to care about your archive link anyone because archive.xx is a fucking pain in the ass. "Here read this broken image of a website snap that barely functions, forces you through a captcha, and takes five minutes to load" lol lmao.
Of course archive.xx will probably be going down here pretty soon what with all the lawsuits and what good did it do? You gonna host your own schizo server of the millions of gigs of sites you obsessively downloaded? For what purpose? Who even is paying for all that data? You probably aren't.
It's such a useless effort, but it's cute you think it matters.
EDIT: lol the down votes. I forgot that that pathetic sad little impotent exercise of "rebellion" was this place's stupid 'thing'. You mentally ill worthless retards aren't gonna do shit with your "archives" but it lets you feel powerful and therefore it feels like an attack against you personally to have your gay little Cargo Cult called in to question.
Never forget you cowardly blowhards didn't do fuck all during covid but you think your little archives matter.
I was never an archivist, but somewhere around ten years ago noticed things disappearing. Now I have plenty of things saved I couldn't find again without massive effort.
People don't understand how ephemeral the data is that cannot be profited from. For example, downloaded a bunch of great mixes from mixcloud a couple months ago, fast-forward a bit, whole channel gets wiped without notice.
Also, if the web gets nuked, archived copies stored locally that you previously never reviewed will suddenly become your new library.
Yeah, we don't use them now becir everything still works, but it'll become useful when everything stops working.
By this guy's logic, no one should keep a spare tire in their car, or canned food in their pantry "because you don't use it daily". Well yeah, that's the point, all of this is for emergencies.
Also they're full of niggers doing drugs and homeless people pissing/shitting/wanking in the back
They're already targeting Archive for copyright (it's a claim that technically has merit). If the Internet goes that way:
First, your Archive links will literally all be gone.
Second, you're going to have no way to share it with anyone.
And third, as much as it sucks to hear, it doesn't make a single difference what you have and never will. I've seen gun owning conservatives lurch from tyrannical overreach to tyrannical overreach and never once did they do shit so what good does some storage of obsolete articles matter to anyone? Half the trash people here archive is retarded meme tweets which nobody needs to save.
And really at any rate, archive it for yourself.
But why punish us with these shitty links?
Archive is trash. The websites are frequently broken and barely readable. Links don't work. Media often gets lost because they're delivered through a CDN that doesn't get archived with the rest of the page.
And worst of all it obfuscates what you're sending me to. I don't want to have to click an archive link to read an "article" on a website called 911PATRIOTTRUEHEALTHNEWS.biz.
Everything on the internet is a lie. What exactly is your metric for archival and what dilo you ever think you'll do with it?
The metric is probably "it says things I agree with". That doesn't mean it's true. It's like the "6,000,000/number of ovens*hours" calculation. It's a lie, because the 6 million figure actually had nothing to do with cremations. Yet some people get really mad when you point that out. Wooden gas chamber doors? It was exactly one door in one camp that held no prisoners.
Some people recognize that these are lies but recognize their memetic potential: they aren't supposed to be taken seriously. However many others actually believe these are bulletproof arguments and completely true.
So would you actually have any way of knowing if your Dissident websites are also full of lies? Or would you unwittingly fall for them because you agree with it?
In either case, then what is the point of archival? You shouldn't need anything to archive. You should be comfortable just making shit up and claiming it's true, because everything on the internet is made up shit. Everybody makes up lies to support their opinions all the time.
So I don't need to archive shit. Everything ever written by anyone is a lie, so I'll just believe what I want. Anyone who wants sources for anything is a fag.
The last time someone linked me to a dissident website it was a "debunking the debunking of the protocols" and it was literally hundreds upon hundreds of pages of schizophrenic raving that made no sense and barely addressed anything. But people believed it because they wanted to.
The entire world has been completely fake for decades. Literally every dissident I met pretends they're a 6'7" yoked Aryan living on a 600 acre homestead with 14 homeschooled children and 88 million dollars in crypto.
It's a big lie. So what good does archiving lies do.
I feel like you're arguing against some fictitious adversary. You're arguing against things no one here is saying.
Archives existed before archive websites. I've basically "saved" numerous webpages I liked locally. You can also print them (physically, on paper). I have loads of software like CS5 before everything became subscription only so that heaven forbid I can still have certain tools if the web goes down or adobe goes under.
And even little apps like resizers, file converters, drivers, all come in handy.
I also don't get the vitriol. No one here attacked you, but you are going on a tear.
I used to think your username was ironic
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By the way, I managed to turn local government policy into abandoning the clot shot mandates. What were you able to accomplish against that bioterror attack?
It's 2025. The left basically gave up giving a shit about the vaccine two years ago. best case scenario, all you did was restore the status quo.
And thus the question is eternally begged: "if the clot shot was so horrible why did not once did anyone associated with it even so much as get punched in the mouth".
The reason the right clings to the gay vaccine as their moment of rebellion is because "I didn't get the shot" literally just required you to sit at home and do nothing and that's the only thing the right is good at doing.
Afraid. Lol. I bet you think the government wants to take guns because they're afraid too. Most of you think the government machine gunned 500 people in Vegas for no reason except to have a laugh, and you didn't do shit. Nobody is afraid.
It was mandated here. Now, it's not. And I managed to dump enough data to prove that setting another clot shot mandate will be disastrous to them in the next election. Data that you fear enough to try and dissuade people from acquiring.
Lives saved, economy recovered and a new public attitude of distrust against big pharma.
They want it back. To them, the pandemic never ended.
I don't feel the need to punch local officials who admitted that the mandates were misguided when faced with damning evidence. Now if I was actually American, things would be different. Now I'll repeat my question since you appear to have forgotten to answer;
Oh yeah, they are. Nothing says absolute terror than immediately having to resort to the use of nuclear weapons.
That's a very interesting confession.
Your fear is almost palpable.
What were you able to accomplish against that bioterror attack?
See that changes some things. In the US private individual mandate was completely fabricated by the minds of obese "rebels" who still pretend they won some great war. In reality unless you planned to fly somewhere it didn't matter. Nobody actually cared.
At any rate if you're outside the United States, as worthless as the situation in the US is, everywhere else is 40-50 years behind us.
Do you believe Bill Gates is depopulating the world with killer vaccines? Shouldn't he be stopped? Isn't it reasonable to find it incredibly suspicious nobody, not once, was even busted by the cops for planning to put a bullet in him?
Is it not therefore reasonable to notice that despite believing him to be the most vile human to ever exist, who presents an existential threat to the world, that those who believe that genuinely do nothing but cry online about it almost certainly means that they are not serious about anything?
Like I said, the entire Internet is a psyop designed to control people and that absolutely includes "dissidents" who reside terminally online.
What are the odds that conspiracy theories are created and run by the government? It's not even close to zero. Dissident websites and reading materials? Not even close to zero.
In fact many things make more sense when you accept that it's actually almost certain that conspiracy theories are entirely a product of the government specifically to drive "dissidents" in to paranoid psychotic states where they waste their lives squinting at pixels for some retarded shit that happened twenty years ago and nobody cares about anymore.
Ah, so you're one of those 'there were no mask/vax mandates!' cretins. Hate to break it to you, but the government was behind these "private sector" mandates you desperately try deflecting on. I see you've deleted that part of your reply, good thing I quoted it.
You cowardly worm.
Oh naw, Bill Gates is a small fry compared to the things that own him. Your effort to have a gnat like him whacked by a personal army request is funny, though. The moment he dies, another will replace him. You're too blinded by fear to realize just how deep the rot goes.
I prefer the new metric; if the state media calls it a conspiracy theory, they probably are behind it.
You perceive it as 'paranoid psychotic states'. I see them as potential. The fact that you have to use such outdated descriptions makes you really sound like a desperate fedboy trying to dissuade archival because that was what's key to winning previous conflicts. Information.
By the way, thats a lot of words to try and avoid the fact that you did nothing to counter the scamdemic and its mandates. What does that make you? A terminally-online coward, too weak and afraid of the world powers to do anything.
So why are you posting here instead of going full Ted K?
Are you thick?
You lot are the ones who believe way more insane, extreme shit. Most of you think the government circled helicopters around Vegas machine gunning right wingers at a concert for a laugh.
What's the excuse for believing something so insanely evil and not done shit about it? Cowardice or is "believing" that stuff actually just a big online LARP and you don't really believe it?
Oh, you're a bong. That explains it.
Unless you're a burger larping as one, which makes you six million times more of a fag.
Oh I would absolutely love to hear your analysis on how you arrived at that conclusion. Let's all remind each other, before you do that, that you actually believe you are not a stupid person.
Please, regale us with the fruits of your investigation.
EDIT: Note that you invented a fake non-argument as an "excuse" to not explain why you're a limp-dicked little fat coward. You obese fucks run through the same script, you just talk big shit to each other day in and day out for a dozen hours a day, and when it comes to action you are nothing but a bunch of excuses.
I bet you were ecstatic to come up with this "you're a bong" excuse so you don't have to answer the question of why you're a worthless little shithead whose done nothing. And you still won't answer. You never will answer.
Quit hiding from the truth, that you're just a worthless coward playing a tough-guy online.
Also, thriftbooks.com
This defeats the entire purpose of a VPN.
That’s the point.
Yes and I hate it.
"Or, we could meet in beer halls"
Are hooded robes back in style?
What are the Hebs up to now?
Someone's probably going to squeal on the tunnels or the sheltering of pedophiles. Might be Diddy, who knows.
Not so neutral now, are they.
So much for the anonymous bank accounts as well
Proton already gives data to the Swiss gov and shuts down accounts randomly if they think you break Swiss law.
Including holomeme denial?
"Distraction" narratives aren't real and make you sound like a fucking Boomer. Shut the hell up with that gay shit already.
"OH I WATCHED AN HOUR OF EUROVISION I GUESS MAGICALLY MY MIND ERASED THE ENTIRE CONCEPT OF TIME FOR THAT PERIOD, HOWEVER COULD I POSSIBLY BE INFORMED OF EVENTS THAT TRANSPIRED DURING THAT HOUR?!?"
Do you think that if you don't catch a podcast live that it's gone forever?
Do you actually believe that if Europeans weren't "distracted by Eurovision" that this article would have them in the streets rioting and overthrowing their governments?
Lmao fag
Your average person doomscrolls through like 200+ fucking articles and videos a day, there literally is no such thing as a distraction.
Like you think the fucking town crier was gonna show up for only ten minutes before moving on to the next town and if you didn't turn out to listen you would miss the news for a month.
Imagine the boner this would give the Stasi
insert 'Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power' meme here
There will come a day when it is safer to use chinese internet providers. Not because they don’t spy. But because they don’t cooperate with people who will arrest you for some bullshit reason
Yea because I remember how the housing crash was caused by dudes on VPNs.
Or how Jeffrey Epstein required VPNs to move children around the world for sex.
And when the 9/11 hijackers relied on VPNs to be able to conduct terrorism on US soil.
So.. clearly.. VPNs are the real threat.
Is this a serious proposal or is it like when a senator here comes up with a witty name for a bill to outlaw insider trading and absolutely nothing happens, or like when some commentator here lies or misinterprets something like "Russia plans to ban anime figures"?
Yes.
Naruhodo.