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Mass blackouts in Spain as energy grid collapses under Green strain (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by SophiesBoyfriend 1 year ago by SophiesBoyfriend +119 / -0
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– SophiesBoyfriend [S] 34 points 1 year ago +34 / -0

This is truly bananas: all of Europe appears to have been seconds away a continent-wide blackout.

The grid frequency across continental Europe plunged to 49.85 hertz — just a hair above the red-line collapse threshold.

The normal operating frequency for Europe’s power grid is 50.00 Hz, kept with an extremely tight margin of ±0.1 Hz. Anything outside ±0.2 Hz triggers major emergency

source:

https://x.com/shellenberger/status/1916914966663434493

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– AntonioOfVenice 16 points 1 year ago +16 / -0

I'd be surprised if anything happened in more serious parts of Europe. Although given how they've been wrecking the power system, I guess I shouldn't be. It's like the man who is at the brink but thinks nothing's wrong because nothing has happened yet.

I find it funny that people keep messing with working systems until they no longer work.

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– freedomlogic 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I suspect its more than just basic negligence or lack of maintenance.

Oddly enough nova scotia power is reporting they were hacked, but being tight lipped about what exactly.

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– Gizortnik 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

I will make one additional note to that. Europe is always seconds away from a continent-wide blackout, every day, at the same time.

It happens when everyone in England simultaneously turns on all of their kettles all at the same time. Boiling water is some of the most energy intensive mundane things a person can do, and when you multiply that by the population of England, the entire continent's grid (for just a few minutes every day) goes into crisis mode, drawing power from basically every square inch of available energy that can be used. Once everyone boils their tea, the power draw in England collapses, and everyone has to shut everything down. Honestly, they could probably do with a nuclear plant just for tea time.

Now, add in crippling beuracratic retardation, central planning in multiple states, green energy suicide, and "new europeans" ripping out copper from active power lines, and we can see why most of the continent seems like it's on the verge of collapse.

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– Piroko 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

49.85 hz

(Shrug)

During the 2003 Blackout, frequency on the NY west and NY east grid got between 63 and 57 hz before it started triggering Zone 3 impedance relays.

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– deleted 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0
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– SophiesBoyfriend [S] 29 points 1 year ago +29 / -0

Net Zero Achieved!

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– Gizortnik 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

You can't produce carbon is you don't have power!

This is what Gretta would have wanted.

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– SophiesBoyfriend [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Only CBDC, Green taxes, more illegals can fix this

/s

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– AntonioOfVenice 27 points 1 year ago +27 / -0

They'll blame it on fossil fuels, Musk and Russia.

When Texas had an outage, the left blamed it on gas power plants and the right claimed it was due to so called renewables. I never managed to figure out what the real reason was. Given the fact that I heard very little of the left's explanation in the media, I assume it was their fault.

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– undecidedmask2 28 points 1 year ago +28 / -0

A mix of renewables not being able to carry heavy loads, and Texas’ infrastructure not being built for such cold temperatures.

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– Smith1980 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

Yea, I live in Texas and even south Texas was below freezing. Extremely rare for the whole state to freeze. Plus the nuclear power went out

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– RaisingPhoenix 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

This but also because government officials refused to waive some environmental regulations/limits on fuel burning for several of the power plants within Texas. Which, had they been allowed to operate at higher energy production, for what was quite clearly a temporary and extraordinary event, would have alleviated the blackouts if not outright avoided them in their entirety.

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– KekistanPM 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

I've seen it blamed on storms and blamed on an "induced atmospheric variation" but I'm taking it all with a grain of salt right now. Everything is so damn censored and political now.

As for Texas, people were so triggered and tried so much to politicize the near-state-wide-outage, that to this day almost every time ERCOT posts something on Twitter, people remind them of their failure or try to inject something about Gov. Abbott or bad orange man being at fault for everything down to squirrels chewing on wires.

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– Vivs3rdSock 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

"induced atmospheric variation"

So the thing the UK is attempting to do on purpose? 🤔

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– Gizortnik 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Let's blot out the sun. That will surely increase the energy output of our solar panels!

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– akira2501 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

"induced atmospheric variation"

Probably not. https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/ Solar flux and geomagnetics have all been pretty normal for the past day.

As for Texas

Cascading failure. You need power to compress natural gas, you need natural gas to generate power. You have very little import capacity from surrounding grids and green energy was not able to keep up to it's rated specifications in that weather.

It's like any large system where tons of redundancy is built in. To get a visible system wide failure you need several layers to all fail or underperform enough at once.

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– covok48 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

ERCOT cartel needs to be dismantled.

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– SuurSuomi39_II 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

My bet is on Russia. Seeing cucked Germans blaming the domestic terror attacks on Russia just to not admit that immigrants are a detriment was enough evidence. Funny how a country which is supposedly losing a war in Ukraine (don't ask your local redditor about how successful the Ukrainians were in Kursk), is somehow simultaneously capable of staging terror attacks in European ''democracies''.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Undecidedmask2 is correct about Texas. The Frost and snow was actually devastating to the infrastructure. To give you a clue how unexpected it was, it wasn't just power, but the roads, and even nature couldn't cope.

I went down to Texas in the fall after the "Snowpocalypse" and I'd say 50% of everyone's trees were dead. The trees were never adapted to that kind of a cold snap.

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– Mpetey123 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

If the power stays down long enough the refugees will stop pouring in.

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– Galean 19 points 1 year ago +19 / -0

Why? I doubt the power grid is better back home.

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– SR388-SAX 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

Exactly. Remove their incentives for coming.

A bit of starvation in Europe would probably do the continent a world of good at this point, too.

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– Galean 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

war and conscripting immigrants would bring negative migration

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– AntonioOfVenice 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

No empire in history put weapons into the hands of its opponents.

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– dagthegnome 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

At this point, the WEF Empire's own citizens are its opponents.

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– SR388-SAX 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Always were.

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– SuurSuomi39_II 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Can always reopen those work camps in Poland and Croatia.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

They can't send remittances or be obscenely loud on the train if there's no power!

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– RoulerBleu 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

Spectacular fuck-up 99% caused by greenwashing policies.

Formerly-White countries' politicians are speedrunning us into societal collapse.

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– dagthegnome 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

This will go down in history as the Great Siesta.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I'm surprised anyone noticed. I just imagine all the lights went off and everyone in Madrid simultaneously muttered, "I'm so sleepy" and fell asleep leaning against a broom.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Eh, I'd call it more of a Medium Siesta.

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– AgnosticTemplar 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

It's why I never bother with wind and solar power in Rimworld and use the Rimfeller mod to make industrial chemfuel refineries to burn in powerplants.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Wind can help in tundra, though, right?

Also, let's be honest. If our countries were run by HOI4, CK2, EU4, Stellaris, or Rimworld players, our governments would be A LOT more reasonable, some dangerously based. Possibly to based.

I mean, I know that my Rimwold migration policies are...

um...

more restrictive

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– Unknownsailor 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Not mentioned anywhere: solar plasma penetrated into the atmosphere due to a local magnetic field weak spot over the North Atlantic, and it coupled to the earth's electrical circuit, supercharging it, which zapped the electric grid of the affected areas.

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https://x.com/zerohedge/status/1916876842012705217

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– Gizortnik 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I don't know that anything about what you said actually makes sense, but it is possible that if our magnetic field was particularly weak in a certain area, the solar radiation could interfere with the electrical grid.

Though, I suspect retarded policies are still in play here. Government food policies starve populations to death all the time.

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– GloboHomoErectus 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Scandinavia needs to disconnect from the continent desperately, we have so much hydropower that any fluctuations in our grid is balanced out automatically in literally a single second due to automatic gates controlling the flow. And the micro adjustments are made at the nuclear reactors with nozzles controlling the amount of steam going through the turbines.

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– GoldenInnosStatue 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

if you haven't invested in solar charges and solar generators you're missing out

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