The leftists are stuck in a bubble that believes that morality cannot exist in people, it needs to be enforced.
It's why many of them generally believe MAGA would go round killing and raping them if they win, a thought pushed by leftist commissars that KNOW this not to be the case but push it to whip up their followers into a mental breakdown.
The few that escape that bubble GENUINELY will usually become the best allies to us, like detransistioners because they realise the nihilistic evil that had trapped their former friends.
Leaving the left made me a better person and (after reconciling with Christ) a staunch ally of the right.
We don't all have the benefit of being born in to strong traditionalist families, especially in this day and age. Educational institutions are completely subverted, and it is all too common to grow while being indoctrinated into moral inversion. Converts from the left are inevitable, necessary, and should be encouraged. Personal journeys of conscience like Ana's are vitally necessary.
This isn't to say the right should import thought leaders from the left, or fail to observe and measure the depth of their individual conversions, by any means, but people like Ana have their place as testimonial speakers about the thought-bubble they were trapped in. Wherever she ends up after leaving the left, she should be applauded for getting out of the nihilistic trap she was in. May her journey and speaking of it help others in her old following to see the truth: that the Left has lied to them.
They believe morality has to be enforced because they themselves are psychopaths. Some of the ones who leave the bubble are simply mixed up normies. I wouldn't turn my back on one, though.
I'd say there's two different Leftist groups pushing a cognitive dissonance. I'll call them the Early Leftist and the Late Leftist. Liberalism pre-supposes that people are innately and naturally good, and that civilization corrupts people as a sacrifice of living together. The Early Leftist accepts this premise, and as such, decides society must be built in such a way to stop the corruption of civilization. They create policies, institutions, structures, and social pressures to try and stop the benighted people of the world from falling into the corruption of civilization and evolving into a higher plane of being, like the Leftist. However, over time, every one of these policies fail because several Liberal assumptions are false. The Leftist finally comes to the conclusion that: clearly humanity isn't innately good, and they do not fit into the Leftist ideological utopia. And instead of asking if they misunderstood something, they declare that humanity itself is broken and irredeemable, which justifies unlimited force in order to cultivate the New Socialist Man. Men are not born good... right now. So, a new man must be created in order for the society to work. Afterall, if civilization can corrupt men, then surely men can be corrupted into doing the right thing. It is at that point where the Leftists acquiesce to just killing all the benighted people, and using unlimited force to groom the new man into existence.
So, the Early Leftist believes that people are genuinely born good. But the Late Leftist learned that people are not genuinely born good, and are prepared to force them to become good, as long as "good" means "meeting the requirements of a Leftist ideology".
Unfortunately the construction of a "New Man" is an embedded concept within Socialism, the Enlightenment, and even potentially Christendom itself. The Socialists have been very explicit about it, and it achieved it's most aggressive stance under Lenin's philosophy.
Detransistioners are usually detransing because they run out of attention and praise after the initial high and the cost of maintaining the delusion is too great without it. All the failed mental faculties are still in play, they just now bat for us.
This is like calling TERFs our best allies. Its completely faulty logic thinking that because they are zealously going after our enemies right now, they are now loyal allies.
In the same way many of the "former Leftists" will turn on us easily the moment we try to make any form of "actual Right wing" pushes that aren't just removing extreme Leftist nonsense.
Detransistioners are usually detransing because they run out of attention and praise after the initial high and the cost of maintaining the delusion is too great without it.
No, I think it's part of a coordinated media push. Cenk Uygur - her co-host - also started to reach out to alternative middle ground 'news' media. Although, he still claims that Donald Trump is fascist due to the 'Muslim ban', but he also doesn't entirely think he's evil. He largely blames the Dems for losing the elections due to their own clueless insanity.
he still claims that Donald Trump is fascist due to the 'Muslim ban'
If the ''fascists'' of today were 25% as based as the Left claims, several countries would have their White % of the population go up by now. Instead it keeps going down everywhere.
My biggest complaint is that he has defined all ideology as Liberalism. And that, effectively, ideology as a concept originates solely from Liberalism, and comes from it. This is because Liberalism is based on Political Rationalism, which doesn't exist outside the enlightenment.
I agree that there are other ideologies that are from the shadows of Liberalism, or exploit the gaps in it. But Political Rationalism doesn't require Liberalism to exist.
Yes sorry I committed the shit forum dude of talking about a video and not posting it.
I'll do a progressive circuit of apologising and learning to do better and grovel at everyone's feet.
I bet 'Steve' doesn't even exist and someone dropped a cash of bag in her lap, due to 'The Young Turks' having a reach of 12 million viewers across its various online channels and there is a general push in the media industrial complex to cut down on the rabid polarization, which eventually led to (multiple) failed assassination attempt(s).
To her credit she started showing signs on sanity months ago. Well before everyone else. I would like to wait some years before I openly support her. We need to welcome people in but also don’t forget that she was a prominent voice of Globo homo for years and years
Going from "im a communist" to "maybe trump supporters aren't all literally Hitler" is the smallest of steps. I don't trust her not to go right back to being stupid the second it's useful for her.
If this is true, then great! Fantastic for her for realizing people are people!
I doubt it’s true and she’s just switching grifts. I believe she saw the writing in the wall at the beginning of the year when TYT’s were bleeding money.
Yes, Ana, you are a liberal cultist retard, you are the minority of the world, you are the enemy, you are everything that is wrong with the world, and you are a failure.
Well good for Ana, because the usual reaction from leftists, especially in the media, is to double-down and claim Orange-Man-Nazis are just conceiling their evil by acting like moral human beings.
Temporarily forced by the Savior Kamala/Joe/Whatever Intersectional ZOG is in charge.
Ana is still a Leftist, but will now struggle being one in an era when the Left and part of the ''Right'' went nuts with Intersectional Race Marxism.
I doubt the Right will even suceed at stopping the trooning of kids nationwide, untill the whole system collapses. All we got up to now was a handful of states forbiding it till adulthood, and a federal ban on troons using the federal bathroom of the opposite sex.
The leftists are stuck in a bubble that believes that morality cannot exist in people, it needs to be enforced.
It's why many of them generally believe MAGA would go round killing and raping them if they win, a thought pushed by leftist commissars that KNOW this not to be the case but push it to whip up their followers into a mental breakdown.
The few that escape that bubble GENUINELY will usually become the best allies to us, like detransistioners because they realise the nihilistic evil that had trapped their former friends.
100% agree.
Leaving the left made me a better person and (after reconciling with Christ) a staunch ally of the right.
We don't all have the benefit of being born in to strong traditionalist families, especially in this day and age. Educational institutions are completely subverted, and it is all too common to grow while being indoctrinated into moral inversion. Converts from the left are inevitable, necessary, and should be encouraged. Personal journeys of conscience like Ana's are vitally necessary.
This isn't to say the right should import thought leaders from the left, or fail to observe and measure the depth of their individual conversions, by any means, but people like Ana have their place as testimonial speakers about the thought-bubble they were trapped in. Wherever she ends up after leaving the left, she should be applauded for getting out of the nihilistic trap she was in. May her journey and speaking of it help others in her old following to see the truth: that the Left has lied to them.
Tbf Ana is also a woman, so becoming a rabid momma-bear is a long journey and she’ll still be a woman at the end.
Other converts, like grifter youtubers have to maintain a certain ideological lens lest they lose income.
They believe morality has to be enforced because they themselves are psychopaths. Some of the ones who leave the bubble are simply mixed up normies. I wouldn't turn my back on one, though.
I'd say there's two different Leftist groups pushing a cognitive dissonance. I'll call them the Early Leftist and the Late Leftist. Liberalism pre-supposes that people are innately and naturally good, and that civilization corrupts people as a sacrifice of living together. The Early Leftist accepts this premise, and as such, decides society must be built in such a way to stop the corruption of civilization. They create policies, institutions, structures, and social pressures to try and stop the benighted people of the world from falling into the corruption of civilization and evolving into a higher plane of being, like the Leftist. However, over time, every one of these policies fail because several Liberal assumptions are false. The Leftist finally comes to the conclusion that: clearly humanity isn't innately good, and they do not fit into the Leftist ideological utopia. And instead of asking if they misunderstood something, they declare that humanity itself is broken and irredeemable, which justifies unlimited force in order to cultivate the New Socialist Man. Men are not born good... right now. So, a new man must be created in order for the society to work. Afterall, if civilization can corrupt men, then surely men can be corrupted into doing the right thing. It is at that point where the Leftists acquiesce to just killing all the benighted people, and using unlimited force to groom the new man into existence.
So, the Early Leftist believes that people are genuinely born good. But the Late Leftist learned that people are not genuinely born good, and are prepared to force them to become good, as long as "good" means "meeting the requirements of a Leftist ideology".
“Men are not born good... right now. So, a new man must be created in order for the society to work.”
I need to start recording all the great quotes people say on this forum.
He's also got it ass fucking backwards but whatever.
That's kind of you.
Unfortunately the construction of a "New Man" is an embedded concept within Socialism, the Enlightenment, and even potentially Christendom itself. The Socialists have been very explicit about it, and it achieved it's most aggressive stance under Lenin's philosophy.
Oh, there's also a save button for comments.
Detransistioners are usually detransing because they run out of attention and praise after the initial high and the cost of maintaining the delusion is too great without it. All the failed mental faculties are still in play, they just now bat for us.
This is like calling TERFs our best allies. Its completely faulty logic thinking that because they are zealously going after our enemies right now, they are now loyal allies.
In the same way many of the "former Leftists" will turn on us easily the moment we try to make any form of "actual Right wing" pushes that aren't just removing extreme Leftist nonsense.
Nah, THOSE are part of the 49%...
They can still 49% themselves after they get one last spike of dopamine from the easy marks on our side.
Such as once the full weight of their rotdogs' (since its usually the females) upkeep takes its toll.
No, I think it's part of a coordinated media push. Cenk Uygur - her co-host - also started to reach out to alternative middle ground 'news' media. Although, he still claims that Donald Trump is fascist due to the 'Muslim ban', but he also doesn't entirely think he's evil. He largely blames the Dems for losing the elections due to their own clueless insanity.
If the ''fascists'' of today were 25% as based as the Left claims, several countries would have their White % of the population go up by now. Instead it keeps going down everywhere.
Cenk is a latecomer. Ana's transformation started long before the election.
Carl Benjamin did a good video on her recently about how she's apparently organically leaving the ideology and what a good case study it is.
Video in question
My biggest complaint is that he has defined all ideology as Liberalism. And that, effectively, ideology as a concept originates solely from Liberalism, and comes from it. This is because Liberalism is based on Political Rationalism, which doesn't exist outside the enlightenment.
I agree that there are other ideologies that are from the shadows of Liberalism, or exploit the gaps in it. But Political Rationalism doesn't require Liberalism to exist.
Yes sorry I committed the shit forum dude of talking about a video and not posting it. I'll do a progressive circuit of apologising and learning to do better and grovel at everyone's feet.
It could be worse. You could have been OP and not posted it. Or linked to a screenshot of the video.
It wasn't that good and she appears to be acting in a selfish manner not changing ideologies.
Lets review this comment in a year.
I'm sure the sexual assault by some homeless guy in LA also helped change her mind.
''A Leftist is a Conservative that hasen't been
muggedsexually-assaulted yet.''Though there are White people who get raped by blacks and still blame ''White Supremacy''.
I bet 'Steve' doesn't even exist and someone dropped a cash of bag in her lap, due to 'The Young Turks' having a reach of 12 million viewers across its various online channels and there is a general push in the media industrial complex to cut down on the rabid polarization, which eventually led to (multiple) failed assassination attempt(s).
To her credit she started showing signs on sanity months ago. Well before everyone else. I would like to wait some years before I openly support her. We need to welcome people in but also don’t forget that she was a prominent voice of Globo homo for years and years
Going from "im a communist" to "maybe trump supporters aren't all literally Hitler" is the smallest of steps. I don't trust her not to go right back to being stupid the second it's useful for her.
She's an npc.
Good point. The bar is so low nowadays. I wonder her view on 2A is. If she is a gun grabber then fuck her
Going by every other lefty that the right (especially the trump cultists) have supported, she'll absolutely vote for taking our guns.
That’s why I’m iffy about Tulsi Gabbard. Yes she is pro 2A now, but that’s after being an anti gun politician for years.
Rfk is also a rabid anti gun person.
And he will never be placed in a position that has anything to do with them.
I support her change, I don't need to be her fan
She's exactly the kind of person who would fail to understand a hypothetical
If this is true, then great! Fantastic for her for realizing people are people!
I doubt it’s true and she’s just switching grifts. I believe she saw the writing in the wall at the beginning of the year when TYT’s were bleeding money.
Yeah, financial incentive not to be a frothing-at-the-mouth harpy.
Yes, Ana, you are a liberal cultist retard, you are the minority of the world, you are the enemy, you are everything that is wrong with the world, and you are a failure.
Anal
Well good for Ana, because the usual reaction from leftists, especially in the media, is to double-down and claim Orange-Man-Nazis are just conceiling their evil by acting like moral human beings.
Temporarily forced by the Savior Kamala/Joe/Whatever Intersectional ZOG is in charge.
Ana is still a Leftist, but will now struggle being one in an era when the Left and part of the ''Right'' went nuts with Intersectional Race Marxism.
I doubt the Right will even suceed at stopping the trooning of kids nationwide, untill the whole system collapses. All we got up to now was a handful of states forbiding it till adulthood, and a federal ban on troons using the federal bathroom of the opposite sex.
Disillusioned True Believers can at least be reasoned with once the conditioning is broken.
The issue is distinguishing True Believers that can actually wake up from Grifters that know everything they say is bullshit.
Interesting. I would expect her type to flip out at the guy for trying to help her, strong and independent woman needs no help.
Rather than that, it seems like having a strong male in females life makes them more conservative
Presuming that 'Steve' (or 'Jeff') even exists.
We should not punish people for changing their mind.