Why play someone about to be traumatized or murdered in Silent Hill?
At some point, people run out of things to say, and they just write shit because they have a quota to fill. That said, when you share things like this, you do the journo's job for them, because their goal is to make you angry so you will click and share their story, giving them a whole bunch more clicks, which is the sole metric for their performance. Thank you for using an archive and not the actual site.
what do you mean a walking environmental apocalypse? I take great pride in the fact that not even a whiff of air pollution from the factory ever reaches a biters' nest.
its just a matter of appropriate border placement.
The first question or even first sentence of their conversation sets up the argument so that: "heads I win, tails you lose".
Even disagreeing, you state "there's no problem playing as Fascists", which they use to slander you with guilt by association. In reality, Fascism isn't even present, and the definition you are accepting their use of is a fictional definition they've already used to describe you with.
The post-Gamergate alt-right movement that helped elevate Trump into a "God Emperor" excel at making bigotry seem harmless by presenting it as edgy humour - or even better, as purposeful tastelessness, as cringe.
Ah yes, the fascist practice of ridiculing power through humor. And the very unfascist practice of supressing humor and political dissident
It's hard to pick the most egregious thing from the article because the entire thing is batshit.
It is tricky to pick a path through the entanglements of fascism with other cultural institutions. The rot goes deep. One ready objection to the above praise for early 40K art is that fascists may be more dangerous when they seem totally daft and ramshackle. Donald Trump is a clown. He's easy to laugh at. The post-Gamergate alt-right movement that helped elevate Trump into a "God Emperor" excel at making bigotry seem harmless by presenting it as edgy humour - or even better, as purposeful tastelessness, as cringe. Their basic debating gambit is to lambast their opponents for taking things too seriously.
Still, revisiting artworks like "Lost Patrol" feels like a good start for anybody genuinely committed to the notional anti-fascism of the Space Marine, inasmuch as it dissolves today's consecrated noble killer into a hash of referencing, smashed together in a manner that is, I think, genuinely countercultural, because the mode of composition exhibits no respect for the military, for beauty, for the religious ecstasy of crowds, for empires.
Looking at that posse of pantomime idiots touting their stupid props, these mismatched fools glorying in their own placelessness, these ciphers glued together from car boot salvage, I don't get a sense of masculine empowerment, a feeling of being swept up into an imperial brotherhood of righteous loathing and suspicion. Instead, I see an ethos of self-deprecating abandon and above all, an embrace of disparity, with the things Space Marines are now known for - patriarchal rage, absolute dominion and destruction - reduced to gaudy foreground elements, picked up and brandished like toys. I don't like these figures in the way that Saber Interactive would have us empathise with Titus and co in Space Marine 2, but I am curious about them. I'd like to know where they're going.
Also:
"It's very hard to imagine how they live their lives," Space Marine 2's creative director Oliver Hollis-Leick told me in an interview, shortly after the shooter launched in September.
No it isn't. It's described in great detail in the endless books published about them.
It's a game that resisted the woke bullshit and kept to the lore. Of course they'll bitch about it and even bring up Trump to complete the NPC programming.
There's exactly one female background character with a speaking role and the entire game is extremely lore-accurate. Your two squadmates are a black guy and an Asian guy but if that's your threshold for gayed up then nothing will ever satisfy you.
I mean, being a space marine would be pretty hideous. But not for any of the reasons listed in the "article".
You start out as a normal human, almost certainly on a violent, backwards planet. If you are impressive enough in your youth (pretty much the first 10 years of your life) in that barbaric civilization, you may be "lucky" enough to be recruited by whatever chapter uses your world as a recruiting world. Taken away from everything you've ever known and loved, you're rammed through a number of incredibly difficult, often fatal, tests and trials to make sure you are worthy at which point you start having extra organs surgically implanted in you.
From there, the next 6-8 or so years of your life are traveling around and fighting with the actual marines (except you have inferior weapons and especially armor), either as a scout or - in some cases like the Black Templars - a minion/squire/etc. of a full marine. And while that is happening, you're undergoing more and more indoctrination, hypnotherapy and chemical and hormonal treatments and more new organs surgically implanted every couple years.
If you survive long enough to get all the implants and finally and become a full-fledged marine, congratulations! You are now a literal mutant - not only are you much taller and stronger than a normal human, but you can do fun things like eat metal, spit acid, drink poison, even potentially survive in vacuum for short periods of time. Your humanity has been erased and you are now little more than a walking weapon, who will spend the entirety of your greatly increased lifespan getting shuttled (through literal hell) from one desperate warzone to another against the scariest things the universe has to offer, who have fun toys like guns that rip their targets apart at a molecular level, claws that can tear through tanks, and literal demons. And your "retirement package" if you get badly hurt is you get stuffed in a mech suit with advanced life support so you can keep fighting.
Plus, all normal human emotions have probably been wiped from you, except loyalty to your Chapter and the Emperor and a burning hatred of anything besides the Imperium. And if you do manage to discover some of your emotions or you start having some independent thoughts, then you are balanced on the knife's edge and falling to either side is almost certainly disastrous. On the one side is the Inquisition, many of whom will happily accuse Marines with heresy for no good reason, and on the other side are the chaos gods who desperately try to recruit new marines by almost any means possible.
So, yeah, Space Marines are in fact quite hideous, and being one would be miserable (though, again, with the whole indoctrination bit you probably wouldn't know it is horrible). But, MUH DRUMPF! MUH FACISM! is apparently more horrible.
(though, again, with the whole indoctrination bit you probably wouldn't know it is horrible).
Unless of course, you get one of the many additional flaws. Like depression, bad luck, and or mindless rage/bloodlust that eventually consumes you and your brothers.
Why play a criminal in GTA?
Why play someone about to be traumatized or murdered in Silent Hill?
At some point, people run out of things to say, and they just write shit because they have a quota to fill. That said, when you share things like this, you do the journo's job for them, because their goal is to make you angry so you will click and share their story, giving them a whole bunch more clicks, which is the sole metric for their performance. Thank you for using an archive and not the actual site.
Why play a far-right vigilante murdering undocumented asylum seekers from hell in Doom?
Why play a walking environmental apocalypse, razing forests, slaughtering the natives, and producing thousands of tons of air pollution in Factorio?
Why play the divisive, violent, masculine 'X' versus the inclusive, soft, feminine 'O' in tic-tac-toe?
You joke but they actually think Minecraft is turning kids into colonizers
They'll convince themselves of anything that makes them relevant in their minds.
I literally made a plantation after sailing to a new continent so…shrugs.
Because THE FACTORY MUST GROW
what do you mean a walking environmental apocalypse? I take great pride in the fact that not even a whiff of air pollution from the factory ever reaches a biters' nest.
its just a matter of appropriate border placement.
Why are we even acquiescing to the claim that Space Marines are Fascist?
Asking the real question.
This is actually a very common Leftist tactic.
The first question or even first sentence of their conversation sets up the argument so that: "heads I win, tails you lose".
Even disagreeing, you state "there's no problem playing as Fascists", which they use to slander you with guilt by association. In reality, Fascism isn't even present, and the definition you are accepting their use of is a fictional definition they've already used to describe you with.
Never let your enemy set the tempo of battle.
Ah yes, the fascist practice of ridiculing power through humor. And the very unfascist practice of supressing humor and political dissident
Oh, but this comment is fascist too, apparently
It's hard to pick the most egregious thing from the article because the entire thing is batshit.
Also:
No it isn't. It's described in great detail in the endless books published about them.
They never know a lick about the actual source material, they just pretend to.
But Jesus H Christ the pretentious snobbery in its writing is off the charts.
“Ooh look at all the big words I know 😏”
“I like Space Marine, just not the way Saber wanted me to. I like it ironically because of how bad it is 😏”
“Hmmm my farts smell so delicious😏…”
I hope this idiot gets ALS.
Didn’t extra credits make this stupid argument like 7 years ago?
Wasn't theirs even dumber? That somehow playing a Nazi will make you a Nazi?
Yes, see Stop Normalizing Nazis
Yes he absolutely did, it’s just amazing it’s been 7 years. Never watched another video.
Rock Paper Shotgun still exists?
I'm as surprised as you are.
the zombie corpose of their parent company has been passed around more than a Democratic presidential hopeful...
More than a certain dev they used to prop up.
Anyone that thinks the Imperium of Man is fascist is a fucking moron.
This includes the original creators.
It's a game that resisted the woke bullshit and kept to the lore. Of course they'll bitch about it and even bring up Trump to complete the NPC programming.
Wait, wait, wait... I was assured by many that this game was delayed specifically to introduce woke shit after Sweet Baby Inc or similar got involved.
Is Space Marine 2 not all gayed up?
There's exactly one female background character with a speaking role and the entire game is extremely lore-accurate. Your two squadmates are a black guy and an Asian guy but if that's your threshold for gayed up then nothing will ever satisfy you.
Me: < inner Mick Jagger intensifies >
I mean, being a space marine would be pretty hideous. But not for any of the reasons listed in the "article".
You start out as a normal human, almost certainly on a violent, backwards planet. If you are impressive enough in your youth (pretty much the first 10 years of your life) in that barbaric civilization, you may be "lucky" enough to be recruited by whatever chapter uses your world as a recruiting world. Taken away from everything you've ever known and loved, you're rammed through a number of incredibly difficult, often fatal, tests and trials to make sure you are worthy at which point you start having extra organs surgically implanted in you.
From there, the next 6-8 or so years of your life are traveling around and fighting with the actual marines (except you have inferior weapons and especially armor), either as a scout or - in some cases like the Black Templars - a minion/squire/etc. of a full marine. And while that is happening, you're undergoing more and more indoctrination, hypnotherapy and chemical and hormonal treatments and more new organs surgically implanted every couple years.
If you survive long enough to get all the implants and finally and become a full-fledged marine, congratulations! You are now a literal mutant - not only are you much taller and stronger than a normal human, but you can do fun things like eat metal, spit acid, drink poison, even potentially survive in vacuum for short periods of time. Your humanity has been erased and you are now little more than a walking weapon, who will spend the entirety of your greatly increased lifespan getting shuttled (through literal hell) from one desperate warzone to another against the scariest things the universe has to offer, who have fun toys like guns that rip their targets apart at a molecular level, claws that can tear through tanks, and literal demons. And your "retirement package" if you get badly hurt is you get stuffed in a mech suit with advanced life support so you can keep fighting.
Plus, all normal human emotions have probably been wiped from you, except loyalty to your Chapter and the Emperor and a burning hatred of anything besides the Imperium. And if you do manage to discover some of your emotions or you start having some independent thoughts, then you are balanced on the knife's edge and falling to either side is almost certainly disastrous. On the one side is the Inquisition, many of whom will happily accuse Marines with heresy for no good reason, and on the other side are the chaos gods who desperately try to recruit new marines by almost any means possible.
So, yeah, Space Marines are in fact quite hideous, and being one would be miserable (though, again, with the whole indoctrination bit you probably wouldn't know it is horrible). But, MUH DRUMPF! MUH FACISM! is apparently more horrible.
Unless of course, you get one of the many additional flaws. Like depression, bad luck, and or mindless rage/bloodlust that eventually consumes you and your brothers.
You forgot a crazy one, they can also eat brains to read memories.
Think Arch did a livestream going over it, I'll watch that later than suffer this article, his sarcastic wit will stop me wanting drink.
Stopped reading there, throwing book over shoulder.
God these people are such nauseating little weenies
Must be running low on revenue, so they'll print something they know is wrong to get rage clicks.
He’s right, I would rather be an Inquisitor.
Adeptus Mechanicus checking in. I have literally woken from a sound slumber because a machine with no lights or speakers was in need of assistance.
It wasn't even plugged in.
My favorite game is "Hitler Hates Anime." Does that mean I want to be Hitler?
......kek
This sounds like a headline Tzeentch would endorse.
Why play a loser in classic wow...
Why play as Bowser?
Why play as Dr. Eggman?
Why play as Ganondorf?