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Why do they always idolise thugs (twitter.com)
posted 9 months ago by evilplushie 9 months ago by evilplushie +98 / -0
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– Kienan 66 points 9 months ago +66 / -0

I'm no big fan of police, but this was yet another instance of the cop showing a massive amount of restraint. Too much, in fact.

It's really frustrating when even behaving in an overly restrained fashion, and getting stabbed in the face for your trouble, still isn't enough to avoid the "racist murderer" label.

Only thing the officer did wrong was not shoot her(?) sooner. And I don't say that because I want people to die, I say that because she was coming at him with a knife. You put yourself in a position where other people have to defend themselves from you...that's on you. She chose to behave in a way that turned her into a person in need of shooting.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 41 points 9 months ago +41 / -0

"Yeah, but why didn't the cop just shoot the knife/legs?" - actual retard

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– Stagecoach 23 points 9 months ago +23 / -0

"It was the cop's fault for coming up to the door with a gun drawn, all threateningly like that."

"He could have tried de-escalating the situation first!"

"He should have used his taser or baton!"

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– Kaarous 45 points 9 months ago +45 / -0

"de-escalate" has pretty much always meant "let the subhumans murder you."

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 32 points 9 months ago +32 / -0

de-escalation only works when the person you're talking to is at least somewhat receptive. immediately opening the door and swinging a knife is not being receptive, so of course de-escalation goes out the window.

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– MLGS 21 points 9 months ago +21 / -0

Leftists all think that their enemies have a moral obligation to stand still and let themselves be killed by their superiors (schizo black guys, methed out junkies, bipolar trans folx, any non-white person in general, etc). The worst ones tell you this openly, the slightly smarter ones hide it.

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– FrozeInFear 14 points 9 months ago +15 / -1

There's a slightly less retarded question they could ask: where was this officer's backup/partner? If the officers in this department are trained to be this hesitant to use lethal force, it might have been worth having backup to at least attempt a tazer or something else before shooting. If nothing else, they might be needed in case the first officer goes down.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 13 points 9 months ago +13 / -0

heck, I was under the impression that cops almost always operate in pairs for safety. why was this one alone?

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– deleted 24 points 9 months ago +24 / -0
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– fauxgnaws 6 points 9 months ago +6 / -0

There was a mental health checkup that said 'they'em' were agitated so they sent this cop to check in person.

edit: WaPo mistakenly told me the cop was trained in social work so went by himself, but current article says his partner was just busy.

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– rentfREEEE_since2016 0 points 9 months ago +2 / -2

Retarded hypothetical.

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– FrozeInFear 5 points 9 months ago +5 / -0

Yes.

slightly less retarded

It's a ridiculous expectation for cops to place the safety of aggressors above their own. Asking for a partner to be in position for assistance is just a little wiser than the aforementioned common cries 'just shoot at non-vital body parts, bruh.'

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– AgilePickle1123 8 points 9 months ago +8 / -0

“Why didn’t the cop just shoot the knife out of her hand” - some shit a dumbass Redditor said to me once and got a shit ton of upvotes.

I know they don’t understand firearms, but to think everyone should just be Clint Eastwood and make pinpoint accurate shots has to be the most retarded thing I’ve seen in a while

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– BandageBandolier 5 points 9 months ago +5 / -0

Not to mention they're in a narrow hallway of thin walls and other apartments. Gotta shoot center mass to make sure her neanderthal body has a good chance of keeping those bullets she earned.

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– Yashimata 2 points 9 months ago +2 / -0

The closest they've ever been to a gun is a video game with aim assist, so of course they don't know the first thing about firearms. I've seen first-hand how those retards behave when you actually give them a gun, if they don't cuck out or run away screaming.

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– MassivePecorino 4 points 9 months ago +4 / -0

Hollyweird shootouts: laser precision, no over penetration, no bystanders hit. Reality: cop shootouts have a accuracy rate of about 20-25%. That's not the bullet hit exactly where it was intended to go, but the bullet hit the target it was aimed at, somewhere on the target. Hell, the NYPD has had at least two shootouts in elevators over the years where no one got hit.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 2 points 9 months ago +2 / -0

Do the NYPD still use ball ammo, or did they join the 21st century and use hollow points like everyone else?

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– MassivePecorino 1 point 9 months ago +1 / -0

Apparently they now use Speer Gold Dots.

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– oilwellpauper 1 point 9 months ago +1 / -0

besides the obvious impracticality, shooting the legs is more likely to be lethal than center mass because of major arteries

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– HallucinatoryBeing 1 point 9 months ago +1 / -0

We're dealing with dipshits that think shooting anywhere that isn't the heart or brain is completely nonlethal. The bad guy will just crumple in pain because everyone is just as bitchmade as them, and definitely not insane and/or tweaked out on methamphetamines.

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– TheOutlaw 32 points 9 months ago +32 / -0

Cops have been killed for showing this kind of restraint. They're terrified of getting Chauvined.

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– milkcowhplus 21 points 9 months ago +21 / -0

This is precisely why I’m not a big fan of police. Cop shows a ton of restraint while Lizzo here slashes at him. Meanwhile cops enforced bullshit Covid ordinances with maximum gusto. Not even Covid-related, but fuck, a cop once pulled me over and berated me, with my infant child in the car, because I didn’t let him butt his way into traffic on a busy street where I very clearly and obviously had right of way. Asshole knew he couldn’t ticket me, because I didn’t break any traffic laws, but it didn’t stop him from being a belligerent, power-drunk asshole.

My policy is to stay as far as possible away from both cops and jogging enthusiasts at this point. If they want to fight, they can. Just leave me the fuck out of it.

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– Gizortnik 16 points 9 months ago +17 / -1

Literally an irresponsible amount of restraint which suggests he isn't fit to stay on patrol without retraining.

He was well within his right to shoot her the moment she opened the door. He chose to wait, which was generous. However, once he backed into a corner, he crossed the line from extreme restraint, to reckless restraint.

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– Stagecoach 27 points 9 months ago +27 / -0

Seeing how often cops get demonized just for defending themselves, it seems like a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

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– Gizortnik 8 points 9 months ago +10 / -2

It is, which is why I tend to pully my punches against police. They are actively being attacked by the political left as a mechanism to gain control of them.

All you have to do is look to CHAZ to see what they would replace the police with.

Armed militant lynchmobs that would not stop drug dealers, but would gun you down in a fusillade of gunfire if you looked like someone they were afraid of, then they'd either kill you or just lecture you about how you deserve to be shot, then remove all physical evidence of the crime scene so no one could be persecuted. They also cut people off in their homes and businesses, routinely harassed the general public, attacked random people in the street, and harassed people for wearing pins they didn't like; then threatened anyone who complained.

I don't like the concept of police as an institution, but it doesn't mean I can't see what's going on. If we did get rid of the police, these lynchers would literally beat you to death with hammers and tie your corpse to the back of a pick-up truck and drag your body around like ISIS.

Afterall, these same people crying about police brutality were in 100% support of Hamas gunning down unarmed civilians and families in the street without warning.

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– Adamrises 11 points 9 months ago +11 / -0

It was irresponsible to even be that close to the door to begin with. He was literally hit before he likely even saw the fucker.

Otherwise, based on the way he kept looking at doors and such it felt like he was concerned about collateral if he started shooting. Might be too generous an assumption, but its what came to mind when I watched it.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 9 months ago +3 / -0

He got a little complacent, probably because I'll bet the call wasn't "I want to stab people." Or at least that info wasn't passed, otherwise he'd never have gone in alone in the first place.

He's right to be worried about over-penetration, but shooting the suspect in the hallway which is in line with their apartment is probably the best bet.

I'm willing to bet he was looking at doors because he got stabbed in the face, and his brain turned off, his reptile brain went full fight-or-flight mode, and he was trying to back away and run into a room to hide in; which would explain why he didn't shoot: he was still thinking "Run away!" until he remembered he had a gun.

All of his training fell out of his brain. I'm not gonna bash anyone too bad on that, (because "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face stabbed in the head") but it was something that did nearly kill him. So it's time for some remedial action. It's about as bad as this incident from Oklahoma City. Now contrast that with this dude from Madesto PD.

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– Adamrises 9 points 9 months ago +9 / -0

He got a little complacent, probably because I'll bet the call wasn't "I want to stab people." Or at least that info wasn't passed, otherwise he'd never have gone in alone in the first place.

Part of proper training is to always be ready for it to be the worst case scenario, and part of being a good cop is being able to navigate a situation properly while also being ready for it to go south (as in, not shooting for no reason due to over paranoia or the opposite in this case).

This is especially true if blacks are around. Like, "around blacks, never relax" isn't just a meme racism. Its legitimately a very important mantra based on a century of consistent evidence.

You are probably right though about the panic. Was just a thought in my mind watching, but as I am not in the situation itself its a useless thought.

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– Kopkot 13 points 9 months ago +13 / -0

Zogbot vs chimp out. Remind me again how diversity is our strength and any of this should be in our country?

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– Kienan 6 points 9 months ago +6 / -0

Remind me again how diversity is our strength

I don't think they've ever even told us how it's our strength in the first place, just that it is.

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– Assassin47 3 points 9 months ago +3 / -0

Cause and effect is only ever demonstrated in athletics, like at the olympics. "Look we put so many black people on our bball team and now we're always winning. Diversity is truly our strength!" Otherwise it's just assumed.

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