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The same people who insist on Yasuke being real and a samurai are the same people who can't tell the difference between traditional Chinese music and traditional Japanese music and think that you can't either (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 1 year ago by yoisi 1 year ago by yoisi +115 / -0
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– FlyingCow 32 points 1 year ago +32 / -0

there's probably more historical evidence of Jesus Christ existing than Yasuke as a whole, not even as a samurai

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– Norenia 20 points 1 year ago +20 / -0

I don't think people question the existence of Jesus of Nazareth, just the holy miracles.

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– Adamrises 20 points 1 year ago +20 / -0

Plenty of atheists still scream that he didn't exist at all, which is a solid note how little actual research they do despite claiming its all for science.

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– TheAnon 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

And that was what started my shift away from atheism. They are no more rational or evidence-based than the people they despise.

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– Adamrises 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

Atheists are always guys who work backwards.

They want to do drugs and have wild sex, so thereby anything that prevents that is bad, and because its bad it must be lies and opiates for the masses. And then they just keep working back to tear off little details and inconsistencies to prove it. Any evidence to the contrary doesn't fit within their schema, so its rejected wholesale.

Or, the other common alternative, their dad made them go to church and they hated that/him. So its bad and the cycle works back from there.

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– AnAmishWithATude 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Or if they aren't degens, it's rationalization of existential dread and resentment at the state of humanity. They'll often claim that religion stems from our inability to accept death, but their atheism is the same existential anxiety. A complete rejection of higher meaning and purpose is how they live with the fact that bad things happen and people die.

To qualify your "always" assertion, I'll just make it clear I'm talking about vehemently rigid atheists, not the non-believers that would be better called agnostic, or don't care one way or another.

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– SoctaticMethod1 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Hey, I know I'm pulling the 'no true Scotsman' fallacy with this but, they aren't actually atheists.

They only go to less than surface level of 'there is no god' and in their shallow interpretation think 'that means no higher power so no rules and no consequences at the end of this life'

When you REALLY go deep into it, you start exploring the finality of existence and how important legacy is that you MAKE your own rules and even find a lot of the religious rules have wisdom (except eating pork, fuck off I like bacon!)

You get grounded REAL FUCKING QUICK when you save forced to think of your existence vanishing when you die that you either go full depression jump off a bridge mode or get really good at spotting the time wasters in your life.

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– Adamrises 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

They can only "not be" atheists is if atheism is a solidified grouping with specific rules instead of a loose collection of "no god/s" thoughts.

To say "they aren't atheists" is the equal of Biden saying blacks who don't vote for him aren't actually black, its to take a generalized existence and then apply conditions for you to be a part of it based on what people think should be conditional.

I get it, lots of guys here are atheists (and the downvotes show they are still as offendable as Reddit taught them to be) and don't like the stereotype because it doesn't apply to them. And that's fine. But to try and Rules Lawyer around it by denying it exists and how they don't count and "umm ackshually" it doesn't change that's what the majority of people do with it and why its damaged our society to such a level.

Also, those existential thoughts aren't unique to atheism. I've had to grapple with them just to reaffirm my own faith and actually deal with the possibility of being wrong. To treat them as part of "deeper atheism" itself instead of basic human fears, you are still ascribing to the same ol' atheism belief of "religious people are sheep who never think for themselves."

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– SoctaticMethod1 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

It's more the atheists your talking about, are right now chanting free Palestine, got a trans flag on their profile and pronouns in bio

Everything is EXTREMELY surface level with them and the same goes with their understanding of atheism beyond 'no god no rules'. They're the people Nietzche WARNED about years ago.

It's like taking someone who knows how screw in a lightbulb and saying they're the same as a qualified electrician.

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– ReturningDAOFan 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

How dare you question the thousands of hours they spend watching Bill Maher!!! (Or insert generationally relevant asshole atheist demagogue.)

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– Salixion 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

If anything we've got his court records

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– Adamrises 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

And the sheer fact that claiming "a guy named Joshua didn't exist and didn't do anything" is far less likely than him just existing and not being divine.

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– Salixion 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

He was still a Rabbi and at least a great philosopher

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– SoctaticMethod1 17 points 1 year ago +17 / -0

It's extremely dumb and would have resulted in no sales in not just China, but many southeast Asian countries.

You got a French company confusing two counties that have had the biggest impact in the region, constantly insulting the Japanese then you look what they are promoting, a random ass black guy beating up and killing Asians in a historical period where races weren't really co-existing ANYWHERE as much.

Ubisoft now going down the tubes as a result of their pandering is just icing on the cake as I heard their NEXT Assassin's Creed game was referred to as Hex set during the American witch trials so you KNOW how woke that one would be.

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– dagthegnome 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

Yukio Mishima is spinning in his grave. But then he's been doing that for the past 50 years anyway.

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– Adamrises 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

I wouldn't be able to tell you the difference at a glance.

But I'm also not getting paid to create this or know such details, nor is the result of my action going to reach international ears.

Its pretty fucking simple of an idea, to do basic cursory research on things you intend to use for wide appeal audiences to make sure there isn't something funky with it.

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– yoisi [S] 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

listen to the iconic traditional music of China and Japan and you'll get the gist of the difference between the music. Traditional Chinese music uses the pentatonic major scale, while traditional Japanese music uses the pentatonic minor scale

Japanese iconic traditional song "sakura sakura" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hvo4Db3NT8

Chinese iconic traditional song "mo li hua" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9ArWpDSBJw

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– ParadigmShift2070 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

traditional Japanese sounds solemn and kind of depressing

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– Adamrises 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Of course I have no doubt I could with some effort, though I am completely rhythm deaf and basically useless with sounds. Just admitting that I can't on a whim.

But that's the point, I am just some random guy with no reason to actually know these things. Whereas Ubisoft is creating a product with the intent of evoking a time and place, and thereby should be doing that minimalist amount of effort.

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– Gizortnik 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

I don't understand how Ubisoft could fuck this up. Japanese music is obvious to anyone that hears it, take this for example

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– yoisi [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Wtf is that video you linked, that's indian

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– SoctaticMethod1 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

I think his comment is missing the /s at the end of it....

It also relates to a certain deer girl.

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– Gizortnik 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

I thought it would be funnier without the /s.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Allow me to explain

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– alucard13mmfmj 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Its pretty hilarious because asians hate bring misidentified as another asian.. like its an insult to be misidentified as an inferior asian. Sure. They say all asians are equal on paper.. but they get super offended and angry if you misidentify them. Its like if you called a straight dude a faggot lol.

Source: im asian.

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– BetterNameUnfound 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

One of my favorite video game songs ever is a blend of Japanese and Chinese music styles, though.

"Samurai Scanners" from Warriors Orochi

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– realerfunction 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

"people"

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– deleted 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

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