Hey, I know I'm pulling the 'no true Scotsman' fallacy with this but, they aren't actually atheists.
They only go to less than surface level of 'there is no god' and in their shallow interpretation think 'that means no higher power so no rules and no consequences at the end of this life'
When you REALLY go deep into it, you start exploring the finality of existence and how important legacy is that you MAKE your own rules and even find a lot of the religious rules have wisdom (except eating pork, fuck off I like bacon!)
You get grounded REAL FUCKING QUICK when you save forced to think of your existence vanishing when you die that you either go full depression jump off a bridge mode or get really good at spotting the time wasters in your life.
They can only "not be" atheists is if atheism is a solidified grouping with specific rules instead of a loose collection of "no god/s" thoughts.
To say "they aren't atheists" is the equal of Biden saying blacks who don't vote for him aren't actually black, its to take a generalized existence and then apply conditions for you to be a part of it based on what people think should be conditional.
I get it, lots of guys here are atheists (and the downvotes show they are still as offendable as Reddit taught them to be) and don't like the stereotype because it doesn't apply to them. And that's fine. But to try and Rules Lawyer around it by denying it exists and how they don't count and "umm ackshually" it doesn't change that's what the majority of people do with it and why its damaged our society to such a level.
Also, those existential thoughts aren't unique to atheism. I've had to grapple with them just to reaffirm my own faith and actually deal with the possibility of being wrong. To treat them as part of "deeper atheism" itself instead of basic human fears, you are still ascribing to the same ol' atheism belief of "religious people are sheep who never think for themselves."
It's more the atheists your talking about, are right now chanting free Palestine, got a trans flag on their profile and pronouns in bio
Everything is EXTREMELY surface level with them and the same goes with their understanding of atheism beyond 'no god no rules'. They're the people Nietzche WARNED about years ago.
It's like taking someone who knows how screw in a lightbulb and saying they're the same as a qualified electrician.
It's more the atheists your talking about, are right now chanting free Palestine, got a trans flag on their profile and pronouns in bio
Yeah, atheists have always been cringe Lefties obsessed with "Current Thing." Its why they felt comfortable enough to create Atheism+ in the first place.
Atheism doesn't have a rule book, it doesn't have a main governing body. Thereby there aren't any rules to say "you ain't one!" other than the singular "believes in god" type. So you can't say they aren't one anymore than you can say the "deeper thinkers" are one. Its all atheism, with all the baggage that brings.
Wait a sec, isn't this basically a theistic version of gamergate we're talking about? 'How can you prove they're not gamergate, you don't have any rules on joining!'
You tell by the level of understanding, if all you look for is petty self confirmation of your actions then chances are you'd as easily be Catholic if all you had to do was attend confession for 10 minutes a week.
Hey, I know I'm pulling the 'no true Scotsman' fallacy with this but, they aren't actually atheists.
They only go to less than surface level of 'there is no god' and in their shallow interpretation think 'that means no higher power so no rules and no consequences at the end of this life'
When you REALLY go deep into it, you start exploring the finality of existence and how important legacy is that you MAKE your own rules and even find a lot of the religious rules have wisdom (except eating pork, fuck off I like bacon!)
You get grounded REAL FUCKING QUICK when you save forced to think of your existence vanishing when you die that you either go full depression jump off a bridge mode or get really good at spotting the time wasters in your life.
They can only "not be" atheists is if atheism is a solidified grouping with specific rules instead of a loose collection of "no god/s" thoughts.
To say "they aren't atheists" is the equal of Biden saying blacks who don't vote for him aren't actually black, its to take a generalized existence and then apply conditions for you to be a part of it based on what people think should be conditional.
I get it, lots of guys here are atheists (and the downvotes show they are still as offendable as Reddit taught them to be) and don't like the stereotype because it doesn't apply to them. And that's fine. But to try and Rules Lawyer around it by denying it exists and how they don't count and "umm ackshually" it doesn't change that's what the majority of people do with it and why its damaged our society to such a level.
Also, those existential thoughts aren't unique to atheism. I've had to grapple with them just to reaffirm my own faith and actually deal with the possibility of being wrong. To treat them as part of "deeper atheism" itself instead of basic human fears, you are still ascribing to the same ol' atheism belief of "religious people are sheep who never think for themselves."
It's more the atheists your talking about, are right now chanting free Palestine, got a trans flag on their profile and pronouns in bio
Everything is EXTREMELY surface level with them and the same goes with their understanding of atheism beyond 'no god no rules'. They're the people Nietzche WARNED about years ago.
It's like taking someone who knows how screw in a lightbulb and saying they're the same as a qualified electrician.
Yeah, atheists have always been cringe Lefties obsessed with "Current Thing." Its why they felt comfortable enough to create Atheism+ in the first place.
Atheism doesn't have a rule book, it doesn't have a main governing body. Thereby there aren't any rules to say "you ain't one!" other than the singular "believes in god" type. So you can't say they aren't one anymore than you can say the "deeper thinkers" are one. Its all atheism, with all the baggage that brings.
Wait a sec, isn't this basically a theistic version of gamergate we're talking about? 'How can you prove they're not gamergate, you don't have any rules on joining!'
You tell by the level of understanding, if all you look for is petty self confirmation of your actions then chances are you'd as easily be Catholic if all you had to do was attend confession for 10 minutes a week.