Funny enough, it is because I was on the left, that I do view the left as evil. The right has problems, including constantly moving socially leftward but the left itself has an outright hatred for whites, men, straight people, Christians and just normal people in general.
Leftism is dogmatic by nature. Its ideologies necessarily require forcing societal change based on theoretical frameworks for social organization that can never and will never emerge organically. They need total ideological compliance for their insanity to have even a chance of working. The mere fact that people exist who disagree with them is a threat to their entire belief system and moral framework. They know it, and they resent it.
For conservatives, who value the traditions and institutions that our society has already developed and is built around, the proof of our beliefs is self-evident. We value what already works because it works, and so we don't feel the same all-encompassing need to fear or malign ideological dissidents. I would argue that we might want to do a bit more of that, given the shitty job we've done of safeguarding our traditions so far.
Looks like Republicans are also slightly more empathetic in-group as well, making them just overall more empathetic.
Which is ironic, as the Democrats' whole schtick is that they are the party of inclusion, caring for the poor and marginalized against the big mean Republicans. Not only do they care far less about their opposing number, but they care less about each other.
I've noticed a distinct lack of "tolerance" in their messaging over the past several years. it seems to have been replaced with "inclusion", which has been successful redefined to mean "exclude the undesirables"
I've noticed a distinct lack of "tolerance" in their messaging over the past several years
Not just their messaging; they've never tolerated dissidents. Once groups dedicated to "inclusion" started to dominate conventions or events, they immediately started banning everything that they don't like.
for sure, they've never been tolerant as long as they've existed, but the word "tolerance" was a core part of their messaging throughout the 10s. I've just noticed they've abandoned it entirely.
For sure. They've never been about tolerance, despite their claims. They simply have a different set of values and preferences, and they've always been fairly aggressive in punishing those that don't share their values. There's no small amount of cognitive dissonance and mental gymnastics on their part.
For example: if Republican says they oppose transgenderism, even if they express sympathy for transgender individuals and the desire to get them treatment for what is (rightly) considered a mental illness, Democrats would call them intolerant, which then justifies getting them fired from their job, ostracizing them, or just generally ruining their life. All in the name of tolerance.
Everything they say is solipsism. By tolerance they mean you must tolerate THEM, by equity they mean give THEM free stuff, etc. It's a feminine way of looking at the world.
This is why the right needs more bastards as friends, the kind of guy that when you say let your enemies go after you defeat them, he does....off a cliff.
If you are too merciful to be merciless, have a friend who can be your executioner.
Which is why the right needs to adopt some bastards, not degenerates like the left does, bastards that would go full war crime for friend that just makes them feel nice and invites them to Sunday dinner.
It's similar to how we treat dogs or how 4chan loves Pikamee/Henya, the right needs bastards that can do what's necessary but they can't and the bastards need to feel there's a place that will welcome them and has a nice moral structure to protect. It's a win win relationship.
Just occurred to me how some leftists are so arrogant and narcissistic that they'd probably see this as a sign that they're somehow more "likable"... lol.
old news, but worth repeating. especially when you consider that this generation grew up on Star wars, Harry potter, hunger games, etc. all series that have clearly defined boundaries between good and evil, with little nuance or consideration for why the bad guys are doing what they're doing.
It could be worse, they could be presenting clearly evil values as "misunderstood," or "try to see from their perspective," and play towards sympa- OH WAIT!!
Note: I have no issue with alternate perspective antagonists with nuanced justifications. Just don't present true evil as "nuanced or misunderstood."
Also, inb4 "says the guy that said 'Light Yagami did nothing wrong.'"
Liberals hate conservatives. But conservatives are much more tolerant.
I think that used to be true, and probably still is but just to a lesser extent, but it's certainly changing. The reasoning remains, but people are waking up.
I know I used to be more tolerant toward these people. But once you realize just how out of touch they are, how they're in their own reality, how it's all feels over reals, how so much of their ideology is driven by spite and hate and, perhaps most importantly, how - as absurd as it sounds - they hate everything good or true or beautiful.
I used to think they were misguided (and many are), but the core drive is actually evil. And the people at the top pushing it certainly are.
I hate to say it, because it's a bad situation, and it was fun (and true), and optically good to be able to say that I'm more tolerant toward them than they are toward me...but that time is over. They're evil, they hate me, they hate this country, they hate civilization, and they want to see me and mine punished and suffer...and eventually extinct. Preferably as painfully as possible.
They're enemies, and need to be treated as such. That's not hyperbolic, it's not to be edgy, it's not internet tough talk. They hate us and want us to suffer and die; if that's not an enemy, I don't know what is.
Intersting that's what you get from my post. No, what I meant is golden mean is a fallacy and they aren't exempt from criticism just because they smugly proclam muh both sides.
Also, by your logic you think right wingers who think they can reason with they left are still retarded, right?
Yes. The uni party right are malicious, the people who keep voting for them are retarded, and so are anyone on the right who votes for people who won't actually do something.
See Trump, and how he completely failed to clean house at the fbi, etc. He's fucking stupid, and he won't do it this time either.
Maybe the right as a party needs to die, and be reborn with people who actually do something.
True...but many are often evil. The ideology they follow, and the motivation for a lot of their beliefs are evil. Some of it is brainwashing, but they'll happily tell you they hate this society, they hate God, they hate white people, they want all those groups punished and to suffer.
Even the normie leftist is driven by spite and resentment. They're not good natured; they want the most horrible things to happen to people they deem their enemies. Yes, it's partly brainwashing...but it's still evil.
They fantasize about atrocities being unleashed upon you and your family.
When the left was not communist, they were tolerable. The left understood that communism was bad, and joined with people like me to fight against it. They helped fight against the likes of Bill Ayers, radical communist terrorist of the Weather Underground who is on record saying that the dissenters from his communist take over of the US would have to be killed.
But then, the non-communist left let the communist left take over. Now the left is all communist all the time.
Now I am not tolerant of the left, not any more. I won't talk to them, won't listen to them, won't associate with them. I have excised them from my life.
Funny enough, it is because I was on the left, that I do view the left as evil. The right has problems, including constantly moving socially leftward but the left itself has an outright hatred for whites, men, straight people, Christians and just normal people in general.
Leftism is dogmatic by nature. Its ideologies necessarily require forcing societal change based on theoretical frameworks for social organization that can never and will never emerge organically. They need total ideological compliance for their insanity to have even a chance of working. The mere fact that people exist who disagree with them is a threat to their entire belief system and moral framework. They know it, and they resent it.
For conservatives, who value the traditions and institutions that our society has already developed and is built around, the proof of our beliefs is self-evident. We value what already works because it works, and so we don't feel the same all-encompassing need to fear or malign ideological dissidents. I would argue that we might want to do a bit more of that, given the shitty job we've done of safeguarding our traditions so far.
Big brained post. Especially this part:
And that's why cons lose so goddamn always.
Looks like Republicans are also slightly more empathetic in-group as well, making them just overall more empathetic.
Which is ironic, as the Democrats' whole schtick is that they are the party of inclusion, caring for the poor and marginalized against the big mean Republicans. Not only do they care far less about their opposing number, but they care less about each other.
I've noticed a distinct lack of "tolerance" in their messaging over the past several years. it seems to have been replaced with "inclusion", which has been successful redefined to mean "exclude the undesirables"
Not just their messaging; they've never tolerated dissidents. Once groups dedicated to "inclusion" started to dominate conventions or events, they immediately started banning everything that they don't like.
for sure, they've never been tolerant as long as they've existed, but the word "tolerance" was a core part of their messaging throughout the 10s. I've just noticed they've abandoned it entirely.
For sure. They've never been about tolerance, despite their claims. They simply have a different set of values and preferences, and they've always been fairly aggressive in punishing those that don't share their values. There's no small amount of cognitive dissonance and mental gymnastics on their part.
For example: if Republican says they oppose transgenderism, even if they express sympathy for transgender individuals and the desire to get them treatment for what is (rightly) considered a mental illness, Democrats would call them intolerant, which then justifies getting them fired from their job, ostracizing them, or just generally ruining their life. All in the name of tolerance.
Everything they say is solipsism. By tolerance they mean you must tolerate THEM, by equity they mean give THEM free stuff, etc. It's a feminine way of looking at the world.
And both sides are projecting.
This is why the right needs more bastards as friends, the kind of guy that when you say let your enemies go after you defeat them, he does....off a cliff.
If you are too merciful to be merciless, have a friend who can be your executioner.
It's the old principle that he who is incapable of violence isn't peaceful but harmless. Most of the Right is harmless.
Which is why the right needs to adopt some bastards, not degenerates like the left does, bastards that would go full war crime for friend that just makes them feel nice and invites them to Sunday dinner.
It's similar to how we treat dogs or how 4chan loves Pikamee/Henya, the right needs bastards that can do what's necessary but they can't and the bastards need to feel there's a place that will welcome them and has a nice moral structure to protect. It's a win win relationship.
We shouldn't be tolerant of the unabashed evil of leftism
Just occurred to me how some leftists are so arrogant and narcissistic that they'd probably see this as a sign that they're somehow more "likable"... lol.
that is a part of the problem
old news, but worth repeating. especially when you consider that this generation grew up on Star wars, Harry potter, hunger games, etc. all series that have clearly defined boundaries between good and evil, with little nuance or consideration for why the bad guys are doing what they're doing.
It could be worse, they could be presenting clearly evil values as "misunderstood," or "try to see from their perspective," and play towards sympa- OH WAIT!!
Note: I have no issue with alternate perspective antagonists with nuanced justifications. Just don't present true evil as "nuanced or misunderstood."
Also, inb4 "says the guy that said 'Light Yagami did nothing wrong.'"
I think that used to be true, and probably still is but just to a lesser extent, but it's certainly changing. The reasoning remains, but people are waking up.
I know I used to be more tolerant toward these people. But once you realize just how out of touch they are, how they're in their own reality, how it's all feels over reals, how so much of their ideology is driven by spite and hate and, perhaps most importantly, how - as absurd as it sounds - they hate everything good or true or beautiful.
I used to think they were misguided (and many are), but the core drive is actually evil. And the people at the top pushing it certainly are.
I hate to say it, because it's a bad situation, and it was fun (and true), and optically good to be able to say that I'm more tolerant toward them than they are toward me...but that time is over. They're evil, they hate me, they hate this country, they hate civilization, and they want to see me and mine punished and suffer...and eventually extinct. Preferably as painfully as possible.
They're enemies, and need to be treated as such. That's not hyperbolic, it's not to be edgy, it's not internet tough talk. They hate us and want us to suffer and die; if that's not an enemy, I don't know what is.
Largely, the left is evil, the right is retarded, and both sides project their flaws onto the other side.
No, centrists are retarded
So all the right wingers who think they can reason with the left aren't retarded?
Interesting take.
Intersting that's what you get from my post. No, what I meant is golden mean is a fallacy and they aren't exempt from criticism just because they smugly proclam muh both sides.
Also, by your logic you think right wingers who think they can reason with they left are still retarded, right?
Yes. The uni party right are malicious, the people who keep voting for them are retarded, and so are anyone on the right who votes for people who won't actually do something.
See Trump, and how he completely failed to clean house at the fbi, etc. He's fucking stupid, and he won't do it this time either.
Maybe the right as a party needs to die, and be reborn with people who actually do something.
I actually agree, lol. Words are cheap tho
The leftist Establishment are evil, the leftist populous are lemmings and sheep.
The rightist Establishment are indeed retarded, the rightist populace are neutered.
True.
True...but many are often evil. The ideology they follow, and the motivation for a lot of their beliefs are evil. Some of it is brainwashing, but they'll happily tell you they hate this society, they hate God, they hate white people, they want all those groups punished and to suffer.
Even the normie leftist is driven by spite and resentment. They're not good natured; they want the most horrible things to happen to people they deem their enemies. Yes, it's partly brainwashing...but it's still evil.
They fantasize about atrocities being unleashed upon you and your family.
When the left was not communist, they were tolerable. The left understood that communism was bad, and joined with people like me to fight against it. They helped fight against the likes of Bill Ayers, radical communist terrorist of the Weather Underground who is on record saying that the dissenters from his communist take over of the US would have to be killed.
But then, the non-communist left let the communist left take over. Now the left is all communist all the time.
Now I am not tolerant of the left, not any more. I won't talk to them, won't listen to them, won't associate with them. I have excised them from my life.
Tactical MIRV truth bomb
And that's the faux conservatives in the Republican party's downfall.
Creeping incrementalism and exploiting your empathy is how they're dragging society down into their pit.
We need a real opposition party. The GOP is lost and has been for decades.