Helldivers 2 took what, 8 years? And it was a broken dogshit mess on release, entirely because they had to make the game online only to protect freemium mtx currency in a paid game.
I don’t remember it being a broken mess on release. I remember that it had kernel anticheat that kept some people (including me) away, but I thought the game itself functioned fine and was actually quite populace. As far as I know, the big issues happened with mismanagement after release—the PSN account thing, disappointing balance patches, etc.
Maybe I’m misremembering because I never played, though.
Massive overload for the authentication servers so most people couldn't even play for weeks. And the actual game is peer to peer, the online requirement is just for drm. Colossal fuckup.
You could prototype in a few weeks, but getting thousands of them is still a big job. DEFCON should have trusted someone who, like, knows how to do that.
Here's DEF CON's statement (according to plebbit):
DEF CON thrives on community collaboration and has operated for over 30 years successfully working with hundreds of vendors including the dozens that have helped with our badges over the years. For this year’s Raspberry Pi badges, DEF CON hired Entropic Engineering to do the hardware development and firmware. After going overbudget by more than 60%, several bad-faith charges, and with a product still in preproduction, DEF CON issued a stop work order. Any claims that DEF CON did not pay Entropic Engineering for its hardware or firmware development are false. Unfortunately, we heard that these issues with Entropic Engineering were not unique to DEF CON. We decided at that point to finish the badge on our own. We paid to send engineers to Vietnam to work onsite to finalize and test the badges in order to ensure they would be done on time for the conference. We never removed Entropic Engineering’s logo from our badge, it is still on the PCB. However, Entropic was not involved in the design and production of the case, and we removed their logo we had added as a courtesy.
We were happy to still include one of their contractors on the badge panel session. Unfortunately, shortly before the talk was set to take place DEF CON became aware that unauthorized code had been included in the firmware we had paid Entropic Engineering to produce, claiming credit for the whole badge and promoting their coin wallet to solicit money from DEF CON attendees above and beyond what we had negotiated. When asked about the unauthorized code, the engineer said it had been done as a “joke” two months ago and forgot to remove it, and we decided as an organization not to have him on stage while we kept the slides in the talk giving him credit for his work. We communicated the change in advance of the talk, and this individual decided to show up for the panel anyway. He refused to leave, demanding that our security team remove him. Wanting to ensure that the other people involved in creating the badge were able to deliver their presentation, we complied with his wishes and escorted him off the stage, where he was free to continue attending the conference.
Any issues of non-payment are between him and Entropic Engineering, DEF CON fulfilled its financial obligations.
So, exactly what you'd expect hiring a company that can't market itself on merit.
Over budget and behind schedule, of course. Nobody discounts their labor by 25% out of the goodness of their hearts. Obviously a mea culpa from the DEI team.
Read the whole article, still have no idea WTF they were supposed to have made. DEFCON badge?
I know whatever it is, it’s not going to work correctly. So, I hope it’s something to do with the FBI.
So, I looked it up. WTF it’s some conference? Looks like a conference for those kids in online gaming who tell you they’ve stole your IP address, tell you it’s 192.168.1.12, and they are totally going to DDOS you. After which you’re getting banned because their Dad works at Microsoft. They’ve grown up into LARPing as hackers who know just as little as they did back then.
Defcon is a cyber security* conference. The badges are a big part of it and often have little Easter eggs and games attached to them.
*There's a lot more beyond cyber security. Physical pen testing, voting machine hacking, get a chip embedded, etc. It was fun when I went but it's an odd place. An absurd amount of furries.
Sort of. I believe there's still legit stuff there. DEF CON is like a game dev conference where John Carmack is giving a masters-level panel on graphics engine pipelining where the audience is a bunch of RPG-maker LARPers thinking, "he's just like me! I'm a dev too!"
Yeah, when I was digging more I saw the typical mask statement just a couple years ago. I immediately discard the intelligence of anyone who says "We know that masks reduce spread." I've never been to any such con, but they all outed themselves over the last five years with their all-in adherence to the mask and vax posse.
Name's a little on the nose, don't you think?
Maybe they don't actually know what entropy means. It just sounded like a science-y word.
"Necrotic Numerology! That sounds sciency as fuck and I fucking love science!"
I hate hipsters so fucking much, that's the sort of thing that hipsters come up with
Sounds like a necromancer talent which increases the amount of undead raised
The worst kind of ponzi scheme. Unless...
Like when people say "quantum leap" to refer to something as a huge improvement. Irks me every time.
After all, sometimes quantum leaps turn out different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kav7tifmyTg
Entropy requires no maintenance.
Let me guess ; a bunch of White nerds hired on merit would have done the prototype in 3 weeks.
Clearly something is missing from this story. Something that would explain why the Didn't Earn It were dumped.
Probably why games take like 10 years to make now.. 3x the staff and 3x the time lol.
Games used to be a mostly passion project by a bunch of nerdy white guys with a dream.
Now its an office job, where 95% of every shift is spent looking at Imgur memes and slacking off while racking up on seminars.
you're missing meeeeeetings.
hated by anyone who contributes any code
There are many small independent studios making good games in a reasonable amount of time, at a relatively low price ( $5 - $40 ).
It's the big studios infested with D.E.I. that are collapsing under their own dead weight.
Far more effort spent on graphics, monetization, and marketing than on making quality gameplay in the major leagues.
It's a recurring pattern that the only thing working flawlessly at launch in AAA slop is the in-game store.
Helldivers 2 took what, 8 years? And it was a broken dogshit mess on release, entirely because they had to make the game online only to protect freemium mtx currency in a paid game.
It's all cancer in the big leagues.
I don’t remember it being a broken mess on release. I remember that it had kernel anticheat that kept some people (including me) away, but I thought the game itself functioned fine and was actually quite populace. As far as I know, the big issues happened with mismanagement after release—the PSN account thing, disappointing balance patches, etc.
Maybe I’m misremembering because I never played, though.
Massive overload for the authentication servers so most people couldn't even play for weeks. And the actual game is peer to peer, the online requirement is just for drm. Colossal fuckup.
It was a Raspberry Pi running a GameBoy emulator and a NFC for being a badge.
Why this simple request was a problem remains a mystery....
You could prototype in a few weeks, but getting thousands of them is still a big job. DEFCON should have trusted someone who, like, knows how to do that.
The DEI team had outsourced the manufacturing to Vietnam anyway.
Inb4 another bridge collapse, this time with added irony since attempts are made to pivot from DEI to BRIDGE.
Here's DEF CON's statement (according to plebbit):
So, exactly what you'd expect hiring a company that can't market itself on merit.
Over budget and behind schedule, of course. Nobody discounts their labor by 25% out of the goodness of their hearts. Obviously a mea culpa from the DEI team.
Oh there is the missing piece for glaring hole from the Didn't Earn It grifters story.
Thank you.
Can't finish project on time. Has time for "jokes".
Whole thing sounds like a grift to bait government contracts.
That's exactly what it is and the rabbit hole goes so much deeper than most people realise, the whole western economy is fake and gay
Read the whole article, still have no idea WTF they were supposed to have made. DEFCON badge?
I know whatever it is, it’s not going to work correctly. So, I hope it’s something to do with the FBI.
So, I looked it up. WTF it’s some conference? Looks like a conference for those kids in online gaming who tell you they’ve stole your IP address, tell you it’s 192.168.1.12, and they are totally going to DDOS you. After which you’re getting banned because their Dad works at Microsoft. They’ve grown up into LARPing as hackers who know just as little as they did back then.
Defcon is a cyber security* conference. The badges are a big part of it and often have little Easter eggs and games attached to them.
*There's a lot more beyond cyber security. Physical pen testing, voting machine hacking, get a chip embedded, etc. It was fun when I went but it's an odd place. An absurd amount of furries.
Sort of. I believe there's still legit stuff there. DEF CON is like a game dev conference where John Carmack is giving a masters-level panel on graphics engine pipelining where the audience is a bunch of RPG-maker LARPers thinking, "he's just like me! I'm a dev too!"
Yeah, when I was digging more I saw the typical mask statement just a couple years ago. I immediately discard the intelligence of anyone who says "We know that masks reduce spread." I've never been to any such con, but they all outed themselves over the last five years with their all-in adherence to the mask and vax posse.
Maybe was cool in the past at least.