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NYT - Hollywood’s Message to Red States: Our Movies Are for You (archive.ph)
posted 1 year ago by Mpetey123 1 year ago by Mpetey123 +40 / -0
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– daberoniandcheese 44 points 1 year ago +44 / -0

Their definition of catering to red states is not beating you over the head with climate change hysteria in Twisters. I wouldn't call that making movies for red states. It's the bare minimum.

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– Mpetey123 [S] 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

It's a massive step to the New York Times.

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– ghostfox1_ 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

One movie: doesn't shove leftist propaganda in, make everyone a strong black trans disaed alphabet soup woman who don't need no man

Leftists: seethe that one good movie got made that isn't ramming their agenda (or dicks) down our throats

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– TheModernDaVinci 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

They also say it is catering to red states because it was filmed in Oklahoma with a lot of the supporting cast being Oklahomans.

Ignoring that the director had to fight the studio tooth and nail because they wanted it to be filmed in Atlanta.

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– Adamrises 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

They filmed the "critic darling" Beasts of the Southern Wild literally in my hometown because it felt "lost by time" (aka poor and backwater) with dozens of praises about how authentic it was because they cast a non-actor who "survived a hurricane" as a major role.

That's how low the bar is for them to say its outside the Hollywood system. When they see the barest minimum of existence outside an LA suburb and think we should be sucking them off for portraying something so quaint.

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– WhitePhoenix 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

You don't have to be a god-fearing Republican to not want left wing faggotry shoved into your movies. The fact that this article writer thinks the "normal" position is to cater to the left and that's the default goes to show how little he is aware.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

As the overton window is beaten left, what was normal becomes far-right

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– BiggusDiggus 39 points 1 year ago +39 / -0

"for you" as in, you are the reason we make them.

And that reason is to defeat you, demoralize you, humiliate you.

We make these movies "for you".

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– Assassin47 17 points 1 year ago +17 / -0

To Serve Man

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– Valis3 17 points 1 year ago +17 / -0

Disney, which owns seven studios, including Pixar, Marvel, Lucasfilm and 20th Century, has put its creative ranks on notice. “We have to entertain first — it’s not about messages,” Bob Iger, Disney’s CEO, said at a conference late last year. “I don’t really want to tolerate the opposite.”

And...?

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– Vivs3rdSock 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Sure, Bob. Because you totally cared when the message was generating all those tweets and you thought it was actual engagement rather than the empty platitudes that social media was and always shall be.

tl;dr get fucked.

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– akira2501 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Nothing. The problem is in the first line.

Disney, which owns seven studios

Until that's fixed you will have a movie company that produces whatever it wants without any real competition.

Bob Iger is about as qualified as a weatherman. He can tell you which way the wind is blowing. That's about it.

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– Gizortnik 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

It's not about the messages

FUCKING LOL

I almost imagined that I could believe you for a moment!

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– TheModernDaVinci 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Bob is trying to backpedel his way out of the mess he has made after the stock is tanking, investors dont trust him anymore, and he is actually starting to face hard questions about what he is doing (the last earnings call, a lot of formerly friendly investors started asking him why all of their movies were bombing).

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– tobeornotto 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

This is just the Ministry of Truth recalibrating itself.

The farmers haven't stopped herding the sheep.

The sheep were being driven too fast and the dogs were getting too eager, snapping at them with too much force. Some disorder was starting to spread, so the farmers have called on their dogs to run wider circles, to gather the flock in a huddle, to rest for a while and calm them down before the journey continues.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Agreed. Disney is trying to put the lid back on the boiling pot and be more subversive in their propaganda. There is less than no desire to stop messaging. The issue is that they need messaging to be more covert, and not at the expense of the business.

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– tobeornotto 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

The roughly 110 to 120 IQs are the ones who make up the administrative state and the management apparatus. These midwits, the Professional Managerial Class, are always true believers, flag bearers of the empire ideology.

The top 5% don't believe, but they push the message because the true purpose of any empire ideology is to serve the elite.

The 90-110 IQs are the PMCs natural enemy, they represent a commonsensical challenge to the dogma.

Which is why the apparatchiks are hateful of the working classes. They want them to suffer, demoralized, on the brink of breaking; with just enough purpose to continue making their artisan shoes and cakes, but not enough to object or resist.

The most urgent purpose of propaganda is to pacify the plurality. They need them isolated, feeling defeated, disorganized, drugged up and drunk.

They need to normalize the negative externalities of the empire ideology that are seeping in all around them, to keep them pacified on their walk to the abattoir. It is for these people that the party's final, most essential command exists: make them reject the evidence of their eyes and ears.

The lower IQs are the PMC's weapons, which they rile up and pacify at will to whip the middle, and otherwise to mindlessly but diligently drone the fields. The secondary purpose of propaganda is to keep these resentful, hateful, sadistic, and ready to storm the streets.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The roughly 110 to 120 IQs are the ones who make up the administrative state and the management apparatus

No. Really not even close.

Other than that, you're mostly right.

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– tobeornotto 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Until recently, absolutely. Ranks are being filled with DEI hires but historically it's the master degrees who have been the PMC, and these people absolutely have IQs in that range.

Smart enough to intuit that complex forces are at work, but not smart enough to understand what, or to accept uncertainty. Too intelligent to not be drawn towards abstract explanations, not intelligent enough to see through the traps, inconsistencies, and lies of the ideology.

This is why we have a clergy class in the first place. Their middling IQs is what defines them. Their midwittery is the very thing that makes them so susceptible to ideological capture.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Smart enough to get yourself in trouble, but not smart enough to get yourself out of it. Makes sense.

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– deleted 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0
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– Gizortnik 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

I believe your exact words were: "Fuck you kill yourself you fucking cracker-ass, white nigger, inbred, savages. Just get a fucking abortion and die out already. These movies are not for you, because you're a dying race that should be exterminated."

Pretty sure that was somewhere in one of the last Black Panther movies.

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– PooperSnooperPrime 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

Even if this were true, and Hollywood started catering to everyone, and people in red states started buying tickets again, Hollywood would go back to their sneering and condescending as soon as sales went up again. The whole of Hollywood needs to entirely collapse for any chance at true change. A shit leopard can't change its spots.

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– Smith1980 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Prove it

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– Mpetey123 [S] 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I thought you were from Texas not Missouri

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– Smith1980 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Ha! Well the message is the same.

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– ModsAreAIDS 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Red States' message to Hollywood: Get fucked.

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– WitchHunterSiegfried 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

This is the inverse of a Loss Leader IMO, they make a purley escapist movie with little to no pozzery in it, and they use the profits to make 100 more movies like "Bros" or "The Green Knight"

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Which is why you shouldn't support these movies, either. You're not "showing them that these movies pay out so they'll change course", you're bankrolling them to make all the depraved shit they get off to over in Hollyweird's casting rooms.

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– Indipendepede 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

We need you to attend our movies

We know. That's why it's funny and we're not going even harder.

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– subbookkeeper 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I want the civil war movie. But that dude in the red glasses who kills journalists for the whole movie.

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– misogynegro 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

The arrangement is supposed to be - Hollywood makes entertainment, everyone else pays for it. When the fuck did Hollywood become a charity?

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– Erithal 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Our Movies Are Propaganda IS for You

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– yeldarb1983 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

#sigh

~|clicks the link|~

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– deleted 17 points 1 year ago +17 / -0

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