Is he wrong? Society isn't there to make people feel included, I agree on that. Our current society is what happens when you try to make everyone included, you get shit like diversity is our strength while ironically being intolerant of people who cant stand fucking degeneracy while making the degenerates comfortable.
And because of that, there's going to be a reckoning eventually
That's what I'm afraid of. I think we crossed the line to where violence is necessary and justifiable some time ago- the whole COVID thing should have kicked off an anti-government murder spree.
I'm wondering if the fuddy old boomer who bitches night and day about gun control but ultimately hands all his guns over quietly when they're banned isn't just a metaphor for the entire right.
He's said this as early as 2016/2017 when he first rose to fame. You can probably find this whole blurb from that time actually.
He's also 100% correct. Depraved society-destroying people on the left have rejected every reasonable overture by the right wing. What happens when the right says they've had enough?
JP is just another institutional puppet, pushing the theme that only left wing violence is acceptable. You just have to control your output, so you don't create right wing violence. Basically endorsing frog boiling.
The Right creates, then corrupts; The Left divides and destroys. Cycles over and over through the centuries.
You know, this sentiment might hold a little bit of value as a roundabout way of wanting to avoid outright conflict. And I can somewhat get behind that, or at the very least understand the desire for such a stance.
But it rings hollow when you look at and assess the mountains and mountains and mountains of violence that has occurred and has increased over the past decade or so, with the VAST majority of it coming from the left. What does JP think all the fucking riots have been if not violence? What does he believe compelled speech is if not a threat of violence?
It's an uncomfortable truth that people don't want to accept but if it's just to resist unjust laws, then all laws are ultimately a threat of violence, even minor fines.
Most people are fine with violence. They hate resistance.
I hate to break it to JDB, but right wingers are afraid of what happens when the left pushes to far, too.
The problem with Peterson is that he doesn’t respect the role of the order of events in determining morality. Murder and self defense aren’t the same thing. Similarly, if the left becomes unhinged and visits violence, censorship, and tyranny upon you, you are morally justified in your retaliations against them. This constant fear mongering about the specter of fascism is fucking retarded when we are knee deep in Marxism.
I don't use fascism to describe any kind of right wing government
Neither does anyone else that is actually right wing. Authoritarian merging of state and corporate power into strong central government is a leftist structure, and the goon squad trying to subvert right wing movements gets very butthurt when anyone points that out.
Looks like you upset all the tards who think fascism will magically solve everything while forgetting the fact government would control our lives not much different than the communists would. Conflating disagreement with antithesis seems to rule people's minds these days.
Whether you like it or not the "failed" political ideology from 80 years ago is the only known ideology that successfully overthrew the degeneracy that is Weimar (the same degeneracy that we are facing today) and successfully removed the communists in their country. The only thing they "failed" at was losing the war
If you have a better political ideology that is proven to be able to overthrow the current fuckary going on today than go ahead, but as it stands the "failed political ideology" from 80 years ago is the best bet for being able to overthrow the madness going on right now
No, he's just wrong, rather than spreading disinformation. It was a war they started; they didn't remove communists or socialists, they actually recruited many of them; when they started losing the war they decided to kill their own country; and they successfully replaced Socialists in Germany with Socialists in Germany who were then overthrown and divided up between Socialists who ruled Germany in the west, and Socialists who ruled Germany in the East, so now Socialists can rule Germany since the unification.
Whether you like it or not the "failed" political ideology from 80 years ago is the only known ideology that successfully overthrew the degeneracy that is Weimar (the same degeneracy that we are facing today) and successfully removed the communists in their country. The only thing they "failed" at was losing the war
The Right Wing isn't a collective like the Left is. Its filled with warring factions who cannot coexist. They only do so right now because violence is controlled so they have to grit teeth against the bigger threat.
Once that's off the table, the Whites Only side will absolutely begin to devour the Based Blacks side, while the Repeal the 19ths are killing the TradWife simps, and the pro-Israel vs 6 gorillion more massive eruption will be seen from space. Etc etc.
The problem with violence is never its effectiveness. Its that it can't be stopped cleanly. It just keeps going and going, killing people for tinier and tinier differences. And its never your side who is in control the entire time, but the deceitful, manipulative ones who know how to hide will stoking the flames.
Is he wrong? Society isn't there to make people feel included, I agree on that. Our current society is what happens when you try to make everyone included, you get shit like diversity is our strength while ironically being intolerant of people who cant stand fucking degeneracy while making the degenerates comfortable.
And because of that, there's going to be a reckoning eventually
The first part isn't wrong. Its the second part where he shows his true colors and starts talking about how he's scared of the right wing waking up .
"You afraid?"
"I must be."
"Good."
"Why is that good?"
"Means you're not stupid."
If you have any delusions that what's coming will be as nice as the 1950s or the 1980's you can kick those thoughts in the bin right now.
Extremes of either side would not be desireable
i disagree. What people call "far right extremists" was just what was considered normal for most of history.
He is wrong because the right wing has an endless appetite for cuckoldry and will never "wake up", they'll simply roll over.
That's what I'm afraid of. I think we crossed the line to where violence is necessary and justifiable some time ago- the whole COVID thing should have kicked off an anti-government murder spree.
I'm wondering if the fuddy old boomer who bitches night and day about gun control but ultimately hands all his guns over quietly when they're banned isn't just a metaphor for the entire right.
I'm more terrified of my race going extinct than of the backlash to stop that extinction. Whatever that backlash is.
Yes even throwing faggots in camps is less bad than White extinction. Staying in the closed and not being a slut is always the better decision.
He's said this as early as 2016/2017 when he first rose to fame. You can probably find this whole blurb from that time actually.
He's also 100% correct. Depraved society-destroying people on the left have rejected every reasonable overture by the right wing. What happens when the right says they've had enough?
how many Jordan Peterson posts is this now? we get it, he's a lolcow now.
he's a commie
as has been stated in the several other threads. I'm beginning to think the JP posts are a slide operation.
Too many cuckservatives still think Jordan Peterson is legit
He's been having a meltdown. It's topical. What is it you think this alleged sliding is supposed to accomplish?
I get it's topical, but usually a topical event has only a few threads. the massive amount of threads created for this person just seemed suspicious
You underestimate how hated Peterson is for his gatekeeping bullshit. He really is an evil man.
It's a current event. If you don't like it come back in a few days.
JP is just another institutional puppet, pushing the theme that only left wing violence is acceptable. You just have to control your output, so you don't create right wing violence. Basically endorsing frog boiling.
The Right creates, then corrupts; The Left divides and destroys. Cycles over and over through the centuries.
His masters are scolding him.
You know, this sentiment might hold a little bit of value as a roundabout way of wanting to avoid outright conflict. And I can somewhat get behind that, or at the very least understand the desire for such a stance.
But it rings hollow when you look at and assess the mountains and mountains and mountains of violence that has occurred and has increased over the past decade or so, with the VAST majority of it coming from the left. What does JP think all the fucking riots have been if not violence? What does he believe compelled speech is if not a threat of violence?
It's an uncomfortable truth that people don't want to accept but if it's just to resist unjust laws, then all laws are ultimately a threat of violence, even minor fines.
Most people are fine with violence. They hate resistance.
The problem with Peterson is that he doesn’t respect the role of the order of events in determining morality. Murder and self defense aren’t the same thing. Similarly, if the left becomes unhinged and visits violence, censorship, and tyranny upon you, you are morally justified in your retaliations against them. This constant fear mongering about the specter of fascism is fucking retarded when we are knee deep in Marxism.
Neither does anyone else that is actually right wing. Authoritarian merging of state and corporate power into strong central government is a leftist structure, and the goon squad trying to subvert right wing movements gets very butthurt when anyone points that out.
Looks like you upset all the tards who think fascism will magically solve everything while forgetting the fact government would control our lives not much different than the communists would. Conflating disagreement with antithesis seems to rule people's minds these days.
Whether you like it or not the "failed" political ideology from 80 years ago is the only known ideology that successfully overthrew the degeneracy that is Weimar (the same degeneracy that we are facing today) and successfully removed the communists in their country. The only thing they "failed" at was losing the war
If you have a better political ideology that is proven to be able to overthrow the current fuckary going on today than go ahead, but as it stands the "failed political ideology" from 80 years ago is the best bet for being able to overthrow the madness going on right now
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No, he's just wrong, rather than spreading disinformation. It was a war they started; they didn't remove communists or socialists, they actually recruited many of them; when they started losing the war they decided to kill their own country; and they successfully replaced Socialists in Germany with Socialists in Germany who were then overthrown and divided up between Socialists who ruled Germany in the west, and Socialists who ruled Germany in the East, so now Socialists can rule Germany since the unification.
Gee, I wonder why that was?
Too many shabbos goy countries ganged up on them.
Bullshit. Violence has solved more problems in history than any other method. And when it is done right it solves those problems permanently.
The Right Wing isn't a collective like the Left is. Its filled with warring factions who cannot coexist. They only do so right now because violence is controlled so they have to grit teeth against the bigger threat.
Once that's off the table, the Whites Only side will absolutely begin to devour the Based Blacks side, while the Repeal the 19ths are killing the TradWife simps, and the pro-Israel vs 6 gorillion more massive eruption will be seen from space. Etc etc.
The problem with violence is never its effectiveness. Its that it can't be stopped cleanly. It just keeps going and going, killing people for tinier and tinier differences. And its never your side who is in control the entire time, but the deceitful, manipulative ones who know how to hide will stoking the flames.
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Comment Approved: This doesn't do this, but still, be careful Cato.