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Microsoft caves, announces they have disabled default AI recall (www.securityweek.com)
posted 1 year ago by dagthegnome 1 year ago by dagthegnome +59 / -0
Microsoft Bows to Public Pressure, Disables Controversial Windows Recall by Default
Amidst public pressure, Microsoft changes the set-up experience of Copilot+ PCs to disable the controversial Windows Recall feature by default.
www.securityweek.com
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– -Fender- 54 points 1 year ago +54 / -0

They'll stealth install it anyway in a few months.

I received a message recently on my computer that told me I was not eligible for a free upgrade to Windows 11. That made me really happy. I don't care about the "security concerns", I have no intention of "upgrading" from Windows 10 for several more years, if ever, on this computer.

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– RoulerBleu 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

A couple years ago Microsoft tried to forcefull install ( as if it was just a routine minor update they don't ask permission for ) a new Windows version on my mother's potato laptop, which definetively could NOT handle it without slowing down to a crawl.

She had just shut the lid closed ( pausing it ) and asked for help.

I had to force it to shut down to crash the installation and thankfully it could unfuck itself back to its previous operating system. I disabled all Windows updates. ( It's a 2013 cheap laptop. It still ''works'' plugged, but the poor battery totally died years ago. Oddly-enough you can still buy those curiously-shaped replacement cylindrical laptop batteries. )

In more recent Windows version, you cannot disable all Windows updates without a third-party program. You can only ''pause'' updates and they resume after a few days.

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– fauxgnaws 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Turned off TPM just so Win 11 wouldn't be installed by 'accident'. For me the threat of boot sector malware isn't a big concern.

You can get wushowhide.diagcab from Microsoft to skip any update you want, but it's a lot of effort whereas before it was just uncheck the checkbox.

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– FrensInLowPlaces 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Or call it an accident

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– deleted 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0
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– nuggetpatrol 23 points 1 year ago +23 / -0

Microsoft loves to give itself black eyes.

"Your PC is now going to spy on everything you do, for your own safety" What the fuck?

"Xbox one requires the camera on at all times to spy on you, for your own safety" What the fuck?

People remember this. For decades. For every thousand people that forget, there's always one or two that remember the times when Microsoft dipped itself in stupid and tried to pass it off as perfectly fine.

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– Hellsbells00 27 points 1 year ago +27 / -0

It's the foot in the door technique. Ridiculous overreach, then a measured step back based on backlash, but still overreach. "See we listened we're only doing 5 units of evil instead of 10" and then they slowly ramp it back up over the years.

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– throwawayaccount2037 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Yup. For everyone who complained about people like Don Mattrick, he won in the end.

How many Xbox owners use Game Pass? Congrats, you are part of the "all digital future" where you own nothing and will be happy.

The spyware initiative never ended, they just scaled it back enough to reduce major public outcry.

They will keep doing this until everyone has no mouth but must scream.

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– deleted 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0
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– misogynegro 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Remember when the original Xbox One launched and they had to walk back the new always-online 'feature' after public outcry?

Nowadays always-online is the standard in AAA gaming, not even at the behest of console makers but at the behest of publishers.

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– SoctaticMethod1 19 points 1 year ago +19 / -0

Is 2024 just the year that every pandering company suffers....as I'm all for it

Should've focused more on if this was ACTUALLY a good idea than diversity hiring.

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– Lurker404 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

What actually is Copilot+? Is that just the code name of Windows "12", i.e. everyone has to use it eventually? Or is that some special fork version that nobody is going to use anyway? All these articles are rather vague.

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– Frux7 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Copilot is their AI solution they have integrated into bing. I'm pretty sure Copilot+ is that integrated into windows.

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– Galean 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I've been trying to use copilot, it is better then free chatgpt but still kind of sucks. It does however seem to improve the performance of our colleagues from India.

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– Grumman 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

A Copilot+ PC is an ARM Snapdragon-based Windows PC with a dedicated AI processing chip the same way you have dedicated graphics chips. While it's possible to emulate the architecture these PCs use in order to test the Recall feature, there's no talk (yet) of the same screenlogger being planned for regular x86 PCs.

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– dagthegnome [S] 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

Do you believe them?

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– MargarineMongoose 27 points 1 year ago +27 / -0

Yes, but with the stipulation that there will be backdoors that allows them to turn it back on easily later on once the heat blows over.

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– AccountWasFree 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Source: Microsoft.

Holds about as much trust as the government saying that Operation Northwoods was ended.

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– realerfunction 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

not good enough. cancel the program entirely, delete all the code, and fire everyone involved.

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– RoulerBleu 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Every time I set-up a new computer for myself of a family member, invasive spyware and ''vocal assistants'' are blasting me through the speakers, or pre-ticked boxes for granting them permission to track where/when/what at any time, ( and I'm pretty sure even if you disable it, they stealth-collect the data anyway ).

I de-activate everything I can and install Kaspersky Free instead of whatever ''one month free, now let me harass you forever to pay a subscription for a bloated antivirus hoarding way too much RAM on this budget laptop''.

When you start with the ''fresh out of the box'' 8GB RAM laptop and 60% of it is already taken without even opening a web browser, fuck Norton Antivirus, fuck Microsoft Edge which always runs in the background if opened once. You have to kill it in the task manager.

Their new ''Recall'' spyware is one huge leap forward in spying on everything you do on your computer.

''But it's stored locally!'' DO YOU THINK WE'RE A BUNCH OF RETARDS? Locally-stored MY ASS, you're spying on it for sure, and if your computer gets stolen or hacked, ALL of this personal information is now in the hands of someone else.

Fuck. Off.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

We live in a post-developed economy where manufacturing is gone, services no longer serve, and companies look for new and innovative ways to grift and rent-seek.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

"caves"

This is the corporate equivalent of "wouldn't it be nuts if you just let me stick in the tip ha ha ha that would be crazy... unless..."

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– PoleWatcher 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Until they turn it back on quietly

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– TeeBP 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

For now

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