With the family laws being what they are taking illegal measures is the rational choice. And no DOM, I'm not calling for anything, I'm discussing incentives. Of course men shouldn't be putting themselves in situations where women have that kind of power over them to begin with.
This should only happen if the woman tricked the man somehow, like putting a hole in the condom or saying she's on the pill when she's not. Otherwise if you choose to have sex you need to take responsibility for the results. (this is not an endorsement of current fucked up paternity and abortion laws)
Yeah, I'd be fine with that. My concern is whores baby trapping men for cash and prizes. If he wanted the kid he should pay for it, although any support payments should spent on the kid and he should have authority over how it's spent instead of it being free money for a whore.
When I see a crowd of people breathlessly proclaiming that not being able to get free drive-through abortions is literally the handmaid's tale, I can't help but note how few males there are.
But sure, it's everyone else's fault you fell for the psy op.
There would be more males if they hadn't fought so hard against male reproductive rights so they could steal resources from men. There are so many men who might have supported some form of abortion had they been given the same choice that women demand, but they were told to fuck off and die when they asked. That's why women are being told to fuck off and die when they ask for help fighting those abortion bans.
one of sweden's ultra-feminist MPs came out admitting that they need to allow men to have financial abortion... that so long as a woman has optional abortion, the man should at least get decide if he wants to be legally no longer attached.
crazy part was that she wasn't even talking about resources and equality. she was saying this because when the guy is a deadbeat, too many women are getting stuck holding the baby thinking that if the law will force the guy to support them, the guy will stay with the woman, at least financially. and since many don't, the "women are the victims".
of course, many realized that women's victimhood is only a fraction of these cases, and they shut her up real good.
This is something that's really noticeable about any discussion when it comes to gender. Even people who should be doing a better job often end up rolling out the women and boomers if there's any discussion about dating and shit like that.
They never ask the actual men what they think, might partly be something to do with the fact that men are all busy working to be extremely blunt and they simply don't have the time to talk about this. Though obviously even if they did manage to get a booking in or whatnot they'd inevitably have to be on the receiving end of a struggle session and be shamed for their existence.
Women don't fall for psyops. They're naturally fucking stupid when it comes to any form of peer pressure.
They get compared to chickens all the time and it's for a damn good reason.
Chickens just do whatever every other chicken is doing. If you chunk food in a coop and the nearest don't run for it, the rest will ignore it like idiots. Or if one starts picking at shit that clearly isn't food, the rest will come waddling over to pick at it too regardless of the items function.
Women will see piece of information pushed by psuedo-authority and instantly pretend they like it or understand it.
Makes you wonder if it was ALWAYS a lie that women are the most caring of children or if Humans are just way more behaviourally controlled than we actually consider if a little over a century of feminist indoctrination got women to abandon their instincts.
"Always" a lie? Prior to the 1900's initial feminist movement, after a divorce, the children went to the man in almost all cases because, surprise, he was considered the more skilled and able to provide and raise kids, all other factors being equal. It is specifically thanks to first-wave feminism that the courts redefined it so that women would be given priority in a void (and even well beyond it).
It has only "always" been a lie for about a century, the most recent century, and the era of postmodernist philosophy and the takedown of stable society.
Fresh & Fit have been rapidly doing a death spiral for some time now and they're well on their way to getting documented by Kiwifarms because of the weird shit they're getting up to. That's not even the weirdest stuff because allegedly they've been paying prostitutes to hook up with guys who sign up to their bullshit club and pay them money which is very likely to get them nailed on prostitution ring laws.
What's funny about this as well is even their own audience seems to hate Fresh a.k.a Myron because he adds absolutely nothing of value to the conversations. You know what I hate most about them both though? These fucking larpers pay women to have sex with them. That in of itself wouldn't have been that much of a big deal but they insist on pretending they're these amazing guys who are PUAs and can get any women they want when it's a load of bullshit.
I hate as well that inevitably these are the kinds of weirdos that feminists point to when they talk about how men take advantage of women and treat them like shit. There's the other side to this though that feminists are of course always deliberately blind to and that they're taking advantage of young men as well who want to improve themselves and get a girlfriend.
This is true and the thing is in this day and age I don't blame an incel type for example simply paying a prostitute so they don't have to have awkward conversations about being a virgin if they happen to finally get to talk to a woman. The thing about these Fresh & Fit douchebags though is the autists did some weaponised autism and they spotted that some thot was carrying around an extremely expensive designer handbag that looked suspiciously similar to one that fresh gave her.
It's not just paying women money for sex, they're paying these women to act like girlfriends. They are simping hard and pretending they're chads and that pisses me off. A big thing with all these online prostitutes seems to be to have men buy them gifts as a way around directly transacting money for sex which is somewhat interesting. I just hate the larp so much, it makes guys question whether something is wrong with them and in reality they don't realise a lot of these guys who try to show off are fucking losers.
Aka bitches are retarded and fold like crackers under the slightest pressure so a man telling her she's a dumb bitch for trying to keep the kid was all it took
3 in 4 women describe their abortions as not-unwanted and not-coerced.
I agree that abusers will use it as a weapon, but there's also a ton of women that are still choosing to do it.
More than that, there's a lot of men not taking any stance on it at all. If a woman kills your son, then perhaps you should leave her. Unless, you don't care either.
I think she means that even 1 in 4 is too much. She wants that no woman ever acknowledges the opinion of a man when it comes to abortions.
But she definitely wants them to keep baby trapping men to steal their resources.
i mean, there's nothing legal a man can do to a woman to get her to have an abortion she doesn't want to.
With the family laws being what they are taking illegal measures is the rational choice. And no DOM, I'm not calling for anything, I'm discussing incentives. Of course men shouldn't be putting themselves in situations where women have that kind of power over them to begin with.
This should only happen if the woman tricked the man somehow, like putting a hole in the condom or saying she's on the pill when she's not. Otherwise if you choose to have sex you need to take responsibility for the results. (this is not an endorsement of current fucked up paternity and abortion laws)
Yeah, I'd be fine with that. My concern is whores baby trapping men for cash and prizes. If he wanted the kid he should pay for it, although any support payments should spent on the kid and he should have authority over how it's spent instead of it being free money for a whore.
When I see a crowd of people breathlessly proclaiming that not being able to get free drive-through abortions is literally the handmaid's tale, I can't help but note how few males there are.
But sure, it's everyone else's fault you fell for the psy op.
There would be more males if they hadn't fought so hard against male reproductive rights so they could steal resources from men. There are so many men who might have supported some form of abortion had they been given the same choice that women demand, but they were told to fuck off and die when they asked. That's why women are being told to fuck off and die when they ask for help fighting those abortion bans.
one of sweden's ultra-feminist MPs came out admitting that they need to allow men to have financial abortion... that so long as a woman has optional abortion, the man should at least get decide if he wants to be legally no longer attached.
crazy part was that she wasn't even talking about resources and equality. she was saying this because when the guy is a deadbeat, too many women are getting stuck holding the baby thinking that if the law will force the guy to support them, the guy will stay with the woman, at least financially. and since many don't, the "women are the victims".
of course, many realized that women's victimhood is only a fraction of these cases, and they shut her up real good.
Woman moment. sips coffee
Imagine your own father stepping aside so your mom can kill you as a child.
This is something that's really noticeable about any discussion when it comes to gender. Even people who should be doing a better job often end up rolling out the women and boomers if there's any discussion about dating and shit like that.
They never ask the actual men what they think, might partly be something to do with the fact that men are all busy working to be extremely blunt and they simply don't have the time to talk about this. Though obviously even if they did manage to get a booking in or whatnot they'd inevitably have to be on the receiving end of a struggle session and be shamed for their existence.
Women don't fall for psyops. They're naturally fucking stupid when it comes to any form of peer pressure.
They get compared to chickens all the time and it's for a damn good reason.
Chickens just do whatever every other chicken is doing. If you chunk food in a coop and the nearest don't run for it, the rest will ignore it like idiots. Or if one starts picking at shit that clearly isn't food, the rest will come waddling over to pick at it too regardless of the items function.
Women will see piece of information pushed by psuedo-authority and instantly pretend they like it or understand it.
Hmm
Makes you wonder if it was ALWAYS a lie that women are the most caring of children or if Humans are just way more behaviourally controlled than we actually consider if a little over a century of feminist indoctrination got women to abandon their instincts.
"Always" a lie? Prior to the 1900's initial feminist movement, after a divorce, the children went to the man in almost all cases because, surprise, he was considered the more skilled and able to provide and raise kids, all other factors being equal. It is specifically thanks to first-wave feminism that the courts redefined it so that women would be given priority in a void (and even well beyond it).
It has only "always" been a lie for about a century, the most recent century, and the era of postmodernist philosophy and the takedown of stable society.
This is also known as "Tender years doctrine" which is still carried on today as can be seen in our court system.
Six of one, half dozen of the other. Women have always been abusive to kids they didn't like, but feminism made them hate all kids, even their own.
this has the "1 in 4 homeless are women, this is sexist" energy
https://twitter.com/KristanHawkins/status/1775992070705926254
Fresh & Fit have been rapidly doing a death spiral for some time now and they're well on their way to getting documented by Kiwifarms because of the weird shit they're getting up to. That's not even the weirdest stuff because allegedly they've been paying prostitutes to hook up with guys who sign up to their bullshit club and pay them money which is very likely to get them nailed on prostitution ring laws.
What's funny about this as well is even their own audience seems to hate Fresh a.k.a Myron because he adds absolutely nothing of value to the conversations. You know what I hate most about them both though? These fucking larpers pay women to have sex with them. That in of itself wouldn't have been that much of a big deal but they insist on pretending they're these amazing guys who are PUAs and can get any women they want when it's a load of bullshit.
I hate as well that inevitably these are the kinds of weirdos that feminists point to when they talk about how men take advantage of women and treat them like shit. There's the other side to this though that feminists are of course always deliberately blind to and that they're taking advantage of young men as well who want to improve themselves and get a girlfriend.
Even if you're a super pua, there's gotta be times when just ordering a prostitute is easier
This is true and the thing is in this day and age I don't blame an incel type for example simply paying a prostitute so they don't have to have awkward conversations about being a virgin if they happen to finally get to talk to a woman. The thing about these Fresh & Fit douchebags though is the autists did some weaponised autism and they spotted that some thot was carrying around an extremely expensive designer handbag that looked suspiciously similar to one that fresh gave her.
It's not just paying women money for sex, they're paying these women to act like girlfriends. They are simping hard and pretending they're chads and that pisses me off. A big thing with all these online prostitutes seems to be to have men buy them gifts as a way around directly transacting money for sex which is somewhat interesting. I just hate the larp so much, it makes guys question whether something is wrong with them and in reality they don't realise a lot of these guys who try to show off are fucking losers.
"coerced"
Aka bitches are retarded and fold like crackers under the slightest pressure so a man telling her she's a dumb bitch for trying to keep the kid was all it took
Dodging responsibility AGAIN.
3 in 4 women describe their abortions as not-unwanted and not-coerced.
I agree that abusers will use it as a weapon, but there's also a ton of women that are still choosing to do it.
More than that, there's a lot of men not taking any stance on it at all. If a woman kills your son, then perhaps you should leave her. Unless, you don't care either.
Joint decision = coerced//pressured, from a woman's perspective.