Story time: some guys I served with got a USO visit from Kim kardashian (2014 ish) and the only people that were interested in her were black girls and Latina girls trying to be like her. One of my buddies said after seeing her in person he was shocked by the caked makeup and weird ass body proportions, completely ruined the whole “big ass” appeal for him. He was Hispanic too.
There’s nothing wrong with the “breeding hips” that’s part of the highly desirable hourglass figure that’s been the normal standard for voluptuous women for all of well European history at least. That’s why corsets were so popular for centuries and even today for some.
Funny enough she's gained three cup sizes since our first kid so she's planning on sewing herself a new corset. Turns out not a lot of stores sell stuff for H cups. There are some speciality stores, only a handful in the whole country that do it in person, but that's a road trip.
If you ask men if they like this shit, they say no. If you ask women if men like this shit, they say yes. Unless the argument is that men simply aren't willing to admit to this preference when asked (because preferring grotesque plastic surgery over natural beauty is shameful), Pagiacci is just another data point displaying women's misunderstanding of men.
It truly is amazing how so many men will openly and eagerly state that this is not attractive, and these dumbasses simply cannot comprehend that it's the truth. They truly believe that men as a whole are lying, and then when men yet again tell them they don't find this attractive, they get mad and angry at men for...... well, who the fuck knows what the supposed reason is. The actual reason is that they get mad at men to avoid coming to terms with the reality that they did it to themselves of their own free will under a delusion that they know what men want when they actively dismiss what men explicitly say.
Why listen to men when they can listen to women centered media all repeating the same things ad nauseam. Men are liars and idiots who don't know what they want, but there's no way large numbers of women could be delusional and wrong.
A weird mismatch between supply and demand that then distorts the perception of how desirable a trait is. We need to consider niches, and abundance relative to demand.
It's most easily seen in breast size in non fats, looking to old statistics for that. You'll generally find men's preference at around 3% A, 20% B, 50% C, 20% D, 7% DD+. Pretty much a bell curve around C but with a fat tail on one end, more men preferencing large.
So that's the most attractive right? Well hold on, yes but only from a particular point of view. Let's look at supply. What percentage of women are the 7% of men who want DD+ chasing? Other than the fatties, it's not 7% of women who are up at that figure. The average in healthier times was a B. Their curve is further to the left of the scale. There is a mismatch. There is therefore an undersupply of healthy large breast relative to its demand. So although less men preferred it, the few women with that trait received disproportionate attention from the larger population of men who desired it.
Next you have porn addiction. Which tends towards, and shapes your desires towards, extremes. This further increases demand, and the perception of the demand. Not just porn hub, but drawn and animated stuff too. That really allows the extremes to be pushed
I think these hyper forms are being sought out, both because of porn, but also because of a relative lack of supply
You can absolutely be right in saying "most men don't like that shit, in fact its gross to us". But if enough men have it as their niche, but few enough women have that trait, then those women have entered a world where they are disproportionately valued by that niche community of men (and so this doesn't apply to land whales, there is oversupply there). Particularly for harder to attain qualities, or ones that cannot be surgically achieved easily. Height and muscles for example. Few men want an Amazonian muscle woman. But that's not all that important in the internet era for ego and social validation. What's important in the internet age where you can get attention from around the world is if there are disproportionately more men who want it than there are women with those traits. These women with extremes are then inundated with messages and 'likes' from a horde of simps, publicly so.
Women lie about what they really want so much that they can't accept men at face value. They project how they'd respond-- and since they would lie, they presume men are lying, too.
"Men" isn't a singular organism with one set of ideas and ideals. When they look to porn to try and understand what men like they're getting input largely from the most fucked up and degenerate members of society, who dominate that space, instead of the type of men who actually seek romantic relationships, which are next to non-existent in the production of porn.
Naw cumdumpster, you chased the money and attention of porn addicted effeminate men who would rather watch you abuse yourself for their entertainment. You chose this, no one forced you, but because you’re a modern Maenad you must blame someone else for your poor vanity ridden lifestyle that ends with you hating men for only chasing the dregs of society.
Literally know NO man who's into this. You could just say they're coalburners but I doubt it's all of them. Media's having quite an effect on young women who think men like women with ginormous fat asses when in fact the opposite is true...I wonder who would be responsible for that push in media... It's honestly sickening seeing some women who would be beautiful maim themselves like this.
Well I think a lot of it is they see thinness as unachievable. Therefore the achievable look is fat but good fat. Of course they push it with women who are not mainly overweight. But the target of the push is women who are.
Yes and no. Lonely men/boys will do just about anytime for someone to notice them. A lot of them thinks it’s because it’s for a woman. What they really want is a friend. Main reason gaming live streams, Discord, and online gaming is massively popular. When men realize they want someone to open up to that won’t stab them in the back for internet clout, the faster they can be themselves.
Women will ignore, reject, and castigate any and every idea that comes from men because women are strong, independent, and don't need no man, but in this one particular instance it's ONLY men who are responsible for forcing women to get thousand-dollar surgeries against their will for purely aesthetic reasons.
TERFs just want the "feminist equality" setup where women can do whatever they want, have their own safe spaces, etc while men deal with 100% of the "burdens of diversity"
Yeah, all men are responsible because black men are weirdos and sheboons are grotesque.
Story time: some guys I served with got a USO visit from Kim kardashian (2014 ish) and the only people that were interested in her were black girls and Latina girls trying to be like her. One of my buddies said after seeing her in person he was shocked by the caked makeup and weird ass body proportions, completely ruined the whole “big ass” appeal for him. He was Hispanic too.
See, my wife has nice wide hips, but she doesn't have a grossly distended ass and for that I'm very thankful.
Some of this shit? They've stopped being even arguably human.
There’s nothing wrong with the “breeding hips” that’s part of the highly desirable hourglass figure that’s been the normal standard for voluptuous women for all of well European history at least. That’s why corsets were so popular for centuries and even today for some.
Funny enough she's gained three cup sizes since our first kid so she's planning on sewing herself a new corset. Turns out not a lot of stores sell stuff for H cups. There are some speciality stores, only a handful in the whole country that do it in person, but that's a road trip.
Is your wife single?
She is not I'm afraid. Besides that she's very particular, she's only interested in guys with three balls.
Huh. You must be avoiding jugglers like the plague, then.
Are you a descendant of Clementine of the Three Glands?
If you ask men if they like this shit, they say no. If you ask women if men like this shit, they say yes. Unless the argument is that men simply aren't willing to admit to this preference when asked (because preferring grotesque plastic surgery over natural beauty is shameful), Pagiacci is just another data point displaying women's misunderstanding of men.
It truly is amazing how so many men will openly and eagerly state that this is not attractive, and these dumbasses simply cannot comprehend that it's the truth. They truly believe that men as a whole are lying, and then when men yet again tell them they don't find this attractive, they get mad and angry at men for...... well, who the fuck knows what the supposed reason is. The actual reason is that they get mad at men to avoid coming to terms with the reality that they did it to themselves of their own free will under a delusion that they know what men want when they actively dismiss what men explicitly say.
Why listen to men when they can listen to women centered media all repeating the same things ad nauseam. Men are liars and idiots who don't know what they want, but there's no way large numbers of women could be delusional and wrong.
Let me just put my autistic red pill hat on.
Because I think there's something else going on.
A weird mismatch between supply and demand that then distorts the perception of how desirable a trait is. We need to consider niches, and abundance relative to demand.
It's most easily seen in breast size in non fats, looking to old statistics for that. You'll generally find men's preference at around 3% A, 20% B, 50% C, 20% D, 7% DD+. Pretty much a bell curve around C but with a fat tail on one end, more men preferencing large.
So that's the most attractive right? Well hold on, yes but only from a particular point of view. Let's look at supply. What percentage of women are the 7% of men who want DD+ chasing? Other than the fatties, it's not 7% of women who are up at that figure. The average in healthier times was a B. Their curve is further to the left of the scale. There is a mismatch. There is therefore an undersupply of healthy large breast relative to its demand. So although less men preferred it, the few women with that trait received disproportionate attention from the larger population of men who desired it.
Next you have porn addiction. Which tends towards, and shapes your desires towards, extremes. This further increases demand, and the perception of the demand. Not just porn hub, but drawn and animated stuff too. That really allows the extremes to be pushed
I think these hyper forms are being sought out, both because of porn, but also because of a relative lack of supply
You can absolutely be right in saying "most men don't like that shit, in fact its gross to us". But if enough men have it as their niche, but few enough women have that trait, then those women have entered a world where they are disproportionately valued by that niche community of men (and so this doesn't apply to land whales, there is oversupply there). Particularly for harder to attain qualities, or ones that cannot be surgically achieved easily. Height and muscles for example. Few men want an Amazonian muscle woman. But that's not all that important in the internet era for ego and social validation. What's important in the internet age where you can get attention from around the world is if there are disproportionately more men who want it than there are women with those traits. These women with extremes are then inundated with messages and 'likes' from a horde of simps, publicly so.
This post is the tits.
Women lie about what they really want so much that they can't accept men at face value. They project how they'd respond-- and since they would lie, they presume men are lying, too.
"Men" isn't a singular organism with one set of ideas and ideals. When they look to porn to try and understand what men like they're getting input largely from the most fucked up and degenerate members of society, who dominate that space, instead of the type of men who actually seek romantic relationships, which are next to non-existent in the production of porn.
Women just can't comprehend that men have a "sage mode." Or in even more simpler terms, have a horny brain and a regular one.
Naw cumdumpster, you chased the money and attention of porn addicted effeminate men who would rather watch you abuse yourself for their entertainment. You chose this, no one forced you, but because you’re a modern Maenad you must blame someone else for your poor vanity ridden lifestyle that ends with you hating men for only chasing the dregs of society.
Literally know NO man who's into this. You could just say they're coalburners but I doubt it's all of them. Media's having quite an effect on young women who think men like women with ginormous fat asses when in fact the opposite is true...I wonder who would be responsible for that push in media... It's honestly sickening seeing some women who would be beautiful maim themselves like this.
Well I think a lot of it is they see thinness as unachievable. Therefore the achievable look is fat but good fat. Of course they push it with women who are not mainly overweight. But the target of the push is women who are.
Women and accountability? Never gonna happen.
"Plastic surgery bubble butts are nasty"
"Why do MEN demand this?"
Oh, and the answer is niggers. With their jew masters promoting it. Can I say that?
Yawn. Your side will literally feed feminist propaganda if it means you can mention Jews.
I said niggers first. I just think Jews control the media that feeds their ass obsession
But men are demanding they look like this. They're gay and work at Cosmo.
As these things go, we always get one side of the story and we're supposed to believe the chick is the normal one. :')
Yes and no. Lonely men/boys will do just about anytime for someone to notice them. A lot of them thinks it’s because it’s for a woman. What they really want is a friend. Main reason gaming live streams, Discord, and online gaming is massively popular. When men realize they want someone to open up to that won’t stab them in the back for internet clout, the faster they can be themselves.
Women will ignore, reject, and castigate any and every idea that comes from men because women are strong, independent, and don't need no man, but in this one particular instance it's ONLY men who are responsible for forcing women to get thousand-dollar surgeries against their will for purely aesthetic reasons.
I'm blocked by this one.
She even blocked me on her Spanish account for asking if her platform was funded by Team DeSimp.
Are you learning that TERFs are scum after I told you since 2021?
TERFs just want the "feminist equality" setup where women can do whatever they want, have their own safe spaces, etc while men deal with 100% of the "burdens of diversity"