The modern form of child birth in hospitals, where they lay the mother flat on their back with legs spread on stirrups, is incredibly uncomfortable for women not on pain meds. When women have natural births they prefer other positions, like the one in this comic, sitting down or squatting, or partially submerged in water.
putting women in stirrups when it's time to push is for the doctor's convenience and nothing else. The way the woman in the comic is laying or squatting are the most natural ways to give birth and the way our bodies are designed to birth.
Learned all this from my mom, who insisted on having natural births for me and all my siblings, not vaccinating us, having us birthed at home, and generally being a better mom. She read a lot of books on it, and how it affects both the mother and child. Really glad she did that, too, considering how corrupt modern medicine and society has become, especially with how antagonistic it's become against children, mothers, and tradition (if they're White).
It's not by accident either. There are definitely dysgenic factors that have devolved art into it's modern state, following along natural lines of the rise and fall of civilization, but one can't deny the maliciousness behind it, as with so many other things affecting Western civilization. Modern art is ugly, demoralizing, humiliating, propaganda, as is most other corrupted media. It's achieving the exact antithesis of what art is meant to do: to increase the beauty of our world, to teach us lessons, to connect us with our ancestors, to inspire us, to pass on tradition, to help us improve, to increase our love and connection to our communities, nations, and people, to increase social cohesion and strength.
I was speaking primarily of the stance. Women have been giving birth naturally for thousands of years, and mid wives and husbands have "caught" babies just fine from this position. But, you're right that they wouldn't cover their rear end or wear pants. Many women who give birth naturally prefer to be completely naked. Even fabric touching them can bother them, but it depends on the woman and the birth.
"The moon is made of cheese
"Well, that's not true, it's made of rock.
"The moon has been made of choose for thousands of years.
"Millions of people have eaten a piece of the moon
"As part of their yearly ritual before modern times.
"Are you saying you're right and they're wrong??
Doesn't get at the question at all.
This position being typical is very unlikely.
babies come out head first
babies necks are very very weak when they're born they cannot even support the weight of their own head
delivering it on all 4 would mean the baby hitting the ground head first
onto a very very weak neck
so basically this position has some risk of killing or crippling the baby for life
and labor can go on for hours...the idea that the person is spending hours squatting or on all fours is not really practical
I'm not exactly sure why you're planting your flag on this hill. It seems rather obvious that you've never had kids.
Women aren't laying down, or in any specific position, for hours while in labor. The pushing only happens when fully dilated. Many women prefer to be up and about before then, or change positions constantly until right at the end when the baby is coming. Everything you've seen in Hollywood media or what hospitals make women do while on pain meds is contrary to what women will do when giving birth naturally. Furthermore, pregnancy is only super long for new mothers. The more kids a woman has, the quicker it goes.
But hey, you don't have to take my word for it. Go talk with midwives that specialize in natural home births. Or go talk to the Amish. Or read a book on it. There's tons of them. It's not like I'm arguing this from the void, completely absent of experience and the entire history of our species.
This irritates me because you're following along with their tactic. They push something they know is 100% opposite of reality. You show up to ignore most of the details and start an argument then a bunch of energy is wasted arguing back and forth over something they knew was wrong to begin with.
Women do not give birth wearing pants.
Women are not sitting in her position with her legs under her while pushing the baby out (I was wrong on the position look at the pic it's impossible).
Doctors do not stand behind the woman trying to catch the baby - after covering that area with a blanket so they cannot see what they're doing.
When it started we were all bored and it was kinda fun, but it's been 10 years of falling for this same tactic.
The people in the picture are doing almost everything the opposite of reality. As it's been a deliberate tactic for them to do this I find it really irritating.
They push something they know is 100% opposite of reality.
I've already explicitly stated that I was only commenting on the accuracy of the position. I already agreed with you that women wouldn't be wearing pants and have a blanket covering the pertinent area to block view while pushing during the end stages of labor.
Women are not sitting in her position with her legs under her while pushing the baby out (I was wrong on the position look at the pic it's impossible).
Here, let me do a simple internet search for you ("natural labor squatting position"). Here are just 3 results:
Women have given birth in that position for thousands of years. So, too, have they given birth on all fours, or sitting down in various positions, or partially submerged in water.
Something similar to that happened to a character in the 'Sins of Sinister' timeline. A Wolverine/Nightcrawler hybrid referred to as "Wagnarine" gave birth however the baby immediately bamf'd away upon birth and was never seen again.
either that position or squatting are the more natural ways for a woman to give birth. The whole legs up in stirrups is for the convenience of the doctor.
The context of the urn and ashes is that Destiny is a pre-cog so left very specific instructions for what was to be done to her body after Legion killed her. That's what the countdown is for, she knew if her ashes were thrown at that moment they would get blown back into Mystique's face after that line having been said.
She knew in advance how long the labor would be huh?
The pregnant woman is Irene Adler/Destiny in the X-Men series, she's a pre-cog, so yes she will know. It's also how she knew when Mystique had to throw the ashes from the urn so they would come back and hit Mystique in the face.
There is a leg stretched up to her chest. That would mean her pelvis is squishing the baby and aiming down to the bed. The doctor’s hands are at best holding her ass or lower back.
Also, her pants are still on according to the same leg.
Funny that you said that, started looking for signs of AI art. All the hands have a weird extended pinky that might be a touch up from removing a generated extra finger. It’s an assumption that could even we waived as shitty penciling, though.
I mean, the existence of trans proves leftists know less about biology than when we used the 4 humours..
You should read my other comment.
That's probably how the author of that comic was born.
flat ass via baldy rapist while feminists cheer?
Poor guy.
Can you handshakes fucking type English for once in your third worlder/jewish lives!?
The modern form of child birth in hospitals, where they lay the mother flat on their back with legs spread on stirrups, is incredibly uncomfortable for women not on pain meds. When women have natural births they prefer other positions, like the one in this comic, sitting down or squatting, or partially submerged in water.
putting women in stirrups when it's time to push is for the doctor's convenience and nothing else. The way the woman in the comic is laying or squatting are the most natural ways to give birth and the way our bodies are designed to birth.
Learned all this from my mom, who insisted on having natural births for me and all my siblings, not vaccinating us, having us birthed at home, and generally being a better mom. She read a lot of books on it, and how it affects both the mother and child. Really glad she did that, too, considering how corrupt modern medicine and society has become, especially with how antagonistic it's become against children, mothers, and tradition (if they're White).
I think this is less a debate on how to give birth vs shitty art.
Well, I definitely agree that modern art is shit.
It's not by accident either. There are definitely dysgenic factors that have devolved art into it's modern state, following along natural lines of the rise and fall of civilization, but one can't deny the maliciousness behind it, as with so many other things affecting Western civilization. Modern art is ugly, demoralizing, humiliating, propaganda, as is most other corrupted media. It's achieving the exact antithesis of what art is meant to do: to increase the beauty of our world, to teach us lessons, to connect us with our ancestors, to inspire us, to pass on tradition, to help us improve, to increase our love and connection to our communities, nations, and people, to increase social cohesion and strength.
You can tell this is rubbish by how it's worded.
Let's write this out:
Did I mention she's still wearing pants? lol, you're full of it.
Why?
I was speaking primarily of the stance. Women have been giving birth naturally for thousands of years, and mid wives and husbands have "caught" babies just fine from this position. But, you're right that they wouldn't cover their rear end or wear pants. Many women who give birth naturally prefer to be completely naked. Even fabric touching them can bother them, but it depends on the woman and the birth.
The question is if it happened.
"The moon is made of cheese
"Well, that's not true, it's made of rock.
"The moon has been made of choose for thousands of years.
"Millions of people have eaten a piece of the moon
"As part of their yearly ritual before modern times.
"Are you saying you're right and they're wrong??
Doesn't get at the question at all.
This position being typical is very unlikely.
are you retarded? they can hold and support the baby while it's coming out.
Reading comprehension issues, I take it.
I'm not exactly sure why you're planting your flag on this hill. It seems rather obvious that you've never had kids.
Women aren't laying down, or in any specific position, for hours while in labor. The pushing only happens when fully dilated. Many women prefer to be up and about before then, or change positions constantly until right at the end when the baby is coming. Everything you've seen in Hollywood media or what hospitals make women do while on pain meds is contrary to what women will do when giving birth naturally. Furthermore, pregnancy is only super long for new mothers. The more kids a woman has, the quicker it goes.
But hey, you don't have to take my word for it. Go talk with midwives that specialize in natural home births. Or go talk to the Amish. Or read a book on it. There's tons of them. It's not like I'm arguing this from the void, completely absent of experience and the entire history of our species.
This irritates me because you're following along with their tactic. They push something they know is 100% opposite of reality. You show up to ignore most of the details and start an argument then a bunch of energy is wasted arguing back and forth over something they knew was wrong to begin with.
Women do not give birth wearing pants.
Women are not sitting in her position with her legs under her while pushing the baby out (I was wrong on the position look at the pic it's impossible).
Doctors do not stand behind the woman trying to catch the baby - after covering that area with a blanket so they cannot see what they're doing.
When it started we were all bored and it was kinda fun, but it's been 10 years of falling for this same tactic.
The people in the picture are doing almost everything the opposite of reality. As it's been a deliberate tactic for them to do this I find it really irritating.
I've already explicitly stated that I was only commenting on the accuracy of the position. I already agreed with you that women wouldn't be wearing pants and have a blanket covering the pertinent area to block view while pushing during the end stages of labor.
Here, let me do a simple internet search for you ("natural labor squatting position"). Here are just 3 results:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmTBAXbh7_E
https://www.verywellfamily.com/squatting-for-birth-2752959
https://www.takingcharge.csh.umn.edu/birthing-positions
Women have given birth in that position for thousands of years. So, too, have they given birth on all fours, or sitting down in various positions, or partially submerged in water.
Something similar to that happened to a character in the 'Sins of Sinister' timeline. A Wolverine/Nightcrawler hybrid referred to as "Wagnarine" gave birth however the baby immediately bamf'd away upon birth and was never seen again.
I mean, fairly sure that is the healthier stance to give birth in...unless they are doing c section in which case wtf
either that position or squatting are the more natural ways for a woman to give birth. The whole legs up in stirrups is for the convenience of the doctor.
Isn’t that position supposed to be on all fours and not legs under her chest?
Yeah it's going to be very difficult to give birth while wearing pants, and sitting with your legs under you.
True. People do weird stuff, though.
I don't think her legs are under her chest. I think that's her belly.
Edit: ahh the image is partly cutoff. Yeah I don't know wtf they are doing.
I dunno about giving birth, but it's certainly a common position to move into earlier in labor.
"The child was born via C-section."
Not "the child was born via ass E-section".
Dumbass leftist.
Oh, is this what they call a breach?
https://imgchest.com/p/ne7bwdqvm75
The context of the urn and ashes is that Destiny is a pre-cog so left very specific instructions for what was to be done to her body after Legion killed her. That's what the countdown is for, she knew if her ashes were thrown at that moment they would get blown back into Mystique's face after that line having been said.
He was the only devout Catholic X-men. Can’t have a hero born of God in a godless society.
The 1990s cartoon was perfect portraying him.
https://youtu.be/3-K94kdbTS8?si=fEkY1CRb5Fx_oIUR
Coincidentally it's also how modern comics are made
I think that's how Bono was born.
The text is even stupider. She knew in advance how long the labor would be huh?
It takes a genuine bugman to think that's how it works.
The pregnant woman is Irene Adler/Destiny in the X-Men series, she's a pre-cog, so yes she will know. It's also how she knew when Mystique had to throw the ashes from the urn so they would come back and hit Mystique in the face.
Nah, I'll give them that one: after the retcon Destiny's the mother, meaning she knew because she can see the future.
Oh dear. Someone get Yahoo Answers on the line, because this artist desperately needs "how is babby formed" answered.
I can't believe that it's come to this.
They have dug down into how is babby formed. How girl get pragnant levels of dumb.
It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
Wait...two hands....that's how I hoped my son would be born....
Wait, Son.....What job lets me stick two hands up a skirt?
NVM flattest ass I've ever seen. Thanks feminists.
If you think the artist got it wrong, you are either ignorant or an idiot.
This is an accepted position for childbirth.
"women should only do it the old fashioned way!"
One of the old fashioned ways was to use a chainsaw to cut the pelvic bones to make it easier to push the baby through.
There is a leg stretched up to her chest. That would mean her pelvis is squishing the baby and aiming down to the bed. The doctor’s hands are at best holding her ass or lower back.
Also, her pants are still on according to the same leg.
Since we're going to that level of detail, dat shelf of an ass tho....
Funny that you said that, started looking for signs of AI art. All the hands have a weird extended pinky that might be a touch up from removing a generated extra finger. It’s an assumption that could even we waived as shitty penciling, though.
Regardless of what the standards of care of the day today are. Ya boy was born in the 60's. No.