The modern form of child birth in hospitals, where they lay the mother flat on their back with legs spread on stirrups, is incredibly uncomfortable for women not on pain meds. When women have natural births they prefer other positions, like the one in this comic, sitting down or squatting, or partially submerged in water.
putting women in stirrups when it's time to push is for the doctor's convenience and nothing else. The way the woman in the comic is laying or squatting are the most natural ways to give birth and the way our bodies are designed to birth.
Learned all this from my mom, who insisted on having natural births for me and all my siblings, not vaccinating us, having us birthed at home, and generally being a better mom. She read a lot of books on it, and how it affects both the mother and child. Really glad she did that, too, considering how corrupt modern medicine and society has become, especially with how antagonistic it's become against children, mothers, and tradition (if they're White).
It's not by accident either. There are definitely dysgenic factors that have devolved art into it's modern state, following along natural lines of the rise and fall of civilization, but one can't deny the maliciousness behind it, as with so many other things affecting Western civilization. Modern art is ugly, demoralizing, humiliating, propaganda, as is most other corrupted media. It's achieving the exact antithesis of what art is meant to do: to increase the beauty of our world, to teach us lessons, to connect us with our ancestors, to inspire us, to pass on tradition, to help us improve, to increase our love and connection to our communities, nations, and people, to increase social cohesion and strength.
I was speaking primarily of the stance. Women have been giving birth naturally for thousands of years, and mid wives and husbands have "caught" babies just fine from this position. But, you're right that they wouldn't cover their rear end or wear pants. Many women who give birth naturally prefer to be completely naked. Even fabric touching them can bother them, but it depends on the woman and the birth.
"The moon is made of cheese
"Well, that's not true, it's made of rock.
"The moon has been made of choose for thousands of years.
"Millions of people have eaten a piece of the moon
"As part of their yearly ritual before modern times.
"Are you saying you're right and they're wrong??
Doesn't get at the question at all.
This position being typical is very unlikely.
babies come out head first
babies necks are very very weak when they're born they cannot even support the weight of their own head
delivering it on all 4 would mean the baby hitting the ground head first
onto a very very weak neck
so basically this position has some risk of killing or crippling the baby for life
and labor can go on for hours...the idea that the person is spending hours squatting or on all fours is not really practical
I'm not exactly sure why you're planting your flag on this hill. It seems rather obvious that you've never had kids.
Women aren't laying down, or in any specific position, for hours while in labor. The pushing only happens when fully dilated. Many women prefer to be up and about before then, or change positions constantly until right at the end when the baby is coming. Everything you've seen in Hollywood media or what hospitals make women do while on pain meds is contrary to what women will do when giving birth naturally. Furthermore, pregnancy is only super long for new mothers. The more kids a woman has, the quicker it goes.
But hey, you don't have to take my word for it. Go talk with midwives that specialize in natural home births. Or go talk to the Amish. Or read a book on it. There's tons of them. It's not like I'm arguing this from the void, completely absent of experience and the entire history of our species.
The modern form of child birth in hospitals, where they lay the mother flat on their back with legs spread on stirrups, is incredibly uncomfortable for women not on pain meds. When women have natural births they prefer other positions, like the one in this comic, sitting down or squatting, or partially submerged in water.
putting women in stirrups when it's time to push is for the doctor's convenience and nothing else. The way the woman in the comic is laying or squatting are the most natural ways to give birth and the way our bodies are designed to birth.
Learned all this from my mom, who insisted on having natural births for me and all my siblings, not vaccinating us, having us birthed at home, and generally being a better mom. She read a lot of books on it, and how it affects both the mother and child. Really glad she did that, too, considering how corrupt modern medicine and society has become, especially with how antagonistic it's become against children, mothers, and tradition (if they're White).
I think this is less a debate on how to give birth vs shitty art.
Well, I definitely agree that modern art is shit.
It's not by accident either. There are definitely dysgenic factors that have devolved art into it's modern state, following along natural lines of the rise and fall of civilization, but one can't deny the maliciousness behind it, as with so many other things affecting Western civilization. Modern art is ugly, demoralizing, humiliating, propaganda, as is most other corrupted media. It's achieving the exact antithesis of what art is meant to do: to increase the beauty of our world, to teach us lessons, to connect us with our ancestors, to inspire us, to pass on tradition, to help us improve, to increase our love and connection to our communities, nations, and people, to increase social cohesion and strength.
You can tell this is rubbish by how it's worded.
Let's write this out:
Did I mention she's still wearing pants? lol, you're full of it.
Why?
I was speaking primarily of the stance. Women have been giving birth naturally for thousands of years, and mid wives and husbands have "caught" babies just fine from this position. But, you're right that they wouldn't cover their rear end or wear pants. Many women who give birth naturally prefer to be completely naked. Even fabric touching them can bother them, but it depends on the woman and the birth.
The question is if it happened.
"The moon is made of cheese
"Well, that's not true, it's made of rock.
"The moon has been made of choose for thousands of years.
"Millions of people have eaten a piece of the moon
"As part of their yearly ritual before modern times.
"Are you saying you're right and they're wrong??
Doesn't get at the question at all.
This position being typical is very unlikely.
are you retarded? they can hold and support the baby while it's coming out.
I'm not exactly sure why you're planting your flag on this hill. It seems rather obvious that you've never had kids.
Women aren't laying down, or in any specific position, for hours while in labor. The pushing only happens when fully dilated. Many women prefer to be up and about before then, or change positions constantly until right at the end when the baby is coming. Everything you've seen in Hollywood media or what hospitals make women do while on pain meds is contrary to what women will do when giving birth naturally. Furthermore, pregnancy is only super long for new mothers. The more kids a woman has, the quicker it goes.
But hey, you don't have to take my word for it. Go talk with midwives that specialize in natural home births. Or go talk to the Amish. Or read a book on it. There's tons of them. It's not like I'm arguing this from the void, completely absent of experience and the entire history of our species.