I literally opened the article for every member of The Squad to confirm. Freedom Caucus gets of light as only labelled as "positioned right-wing to far-right" while MTG gets the worst- she is deadass labeled as "an American far-right politician" in the 1st sentence of her entry. Gaetz is "widely regarded as a staunch proponent of far-right politics" in the 1st paragraph while "Boebert's views are broadly considered far-right" in the 3rd & final paragraph of the lead.
When I searched "far" on AOC's page I found her talking about eliminating "farting cows" but no "far left." As Rachel Zegler would say..."~WEIRD!"
No, they don't believe that the center is overall best because they don't care about anybody else.
Progress means you aren't there yet, you always have further to go. "Progressive" isn't just a label of what their views are, but a value judgement that their views are best. This is what they call themselves.
So the best liberal is the most extreme liberal; "far left" for a liberal is the center and the farther left you are the closer to "best liberal" you are. It's a total inversion of normal reality just like their other views.
There is no possible argument the left can make that will ever be too far left. No position will ever be extreme enough. Therefore, there can be no far left. It must always go farther.
I didn't either until Lindsay pointed it out. Reasonable people will not realize that they cannot extrapolate reason onto revolutionaries, who are inherently unreasonable. When they commit to perpetual revolution, they are tacitly admitting they will never stop.
Reasonable people need to be reminded of this again, and again, because it is an entirely alien mindset.
There is no possible argument the left can make that will ever be too far left. No position will ever be extreme enough. Therefore, there can be no far left. It must always go farther.
I tried proposing that Ilhan Omar should embrace her incest-positive past on reddit politics- She could be the proud first openly “I” supporting role model.
A reminder that the near entirety of the Scottish Wikipedia was written by a single american teenager, and no one caught onto this, for years.
Wikipedia is written, edited, and controlled by a bunch of obsessed, mentally deranged progandists hammering their particular hobby-horse. Don't trust it as a source. Ever.
The left-right spectrum in the US is apparently seen as an anomaly among first world countries. I recall predditors say that there is no real major left wing party here.
I don't know that I've ever thought about what gets considered more or less extreme.
Its because most politicians in America still pretend to hold some of those pesky "foundational liberties" as unquestionable, at least out loud.
So the fact that the Libs try to pass "gun control" laws instead of "banning all guns instantly" means the Libs are actually vaguely right wing instead of the "superior" European Left to most Redditors and their ilk.
It's going to be different around the world based on political cultures. All of Europe is considered more left wing but they all have much more restrictive laws on abortion than all of the US during RvW and more restrictive than most states still (France for example bans it under 14 weeks)
Didn't Israel sort of admit before they have a lot of control over wikipedia? A lot of them are trying to walk back their propping up of Far-left activists after finding out most of these golems side with Hamas yet they still insist on making Far-right to be some sort of boogie man. Everytime I want to give them benefit of the doubt, I find out something about them making them feel untrustworthy.
Yes this is objectively true to a leftist. We always make fun of them like it's a joke, yet "Omg you guys think anyone to the right of Mao is a right-winger!" is one question where leftists legitimately answer "Chad Yes." Most leftists and left-liberals sincerely believe that America is a far-right authoritarian nation. More thoughtful communists may say it's a liberal empire. They all agree that only a legitimate self-declared Communist could be called "far-left". (but if someone like that ever got into office they'd find some other way to make them "not far-left")
Its not like they were ever hiding it. The "all American politics is mid Right on the CHART" meme is older than any of this discussion, which was them admitting openly they think the fucking Democratic Party is the "regular Right wing" to the Republican's far right.
People just didn't have their senses woke at the time to hear what such statements actually meant, and instead just ignored it.
Fun fact: I edited wikipedia to say I caught a touchdown in an obscure American football game and it's been there for eight years now.
Congrats on your TD, playa!
Good job Al Bundy
He said one. Not four.
I guess it was a lesser game.
I literally opened the article for every member of The Squad to confirm. Freedom Caucus gets of light as only labelled as "positioned right-wing to far-right" while MTG gets the worst- she is deadass labeled as "an American far-right politician" in the 1st sentence of her entry. Gaetz is "widely regarded as a staunch proponent of far-right politics" in the 1st paragraph while "Boebert's views are broadly considered far-right" in the 3rd & final paragraph of the lead.
When I searched "far" on AOC's page I found her talking about eliminating "farting cows" but no "far left." As Rachel Zegler would say..."~WEIRD!"
Hehe. The "Fart-Left".
I’ve heard people try to make the argument that there is no such thing as the far left. I don’t get their reasoning
No, they don't believe that the center is overall best because they don't care about anybody else.
Progress means you aren't there yet, you always have further to go. "Progressive" isn't just a label of what their views are, but a value judgement that their views are best. This is what they call themselves.
So the best liberal is the most extreme liberal; "far left" for a liberal is the center and the farther left you are the closer to "best liberal" you are. It's a total inversion of normal reality just like their other views.
It's true, though. Remember when Lindsay argued that wokism cannot go too far?
There is no possible argument the left can make that will ever be too far left. No position will ever be extreme enough. Therefore, there can be no far left. It must always go farther.
Utopia is always over the next hill, comrade.
Never saw it that way. Plus you can burn down cities and the media will be sympathetic
I didn't either until Lindsay pointed it out. Reasonable people will not realize that they cannot extrapolate reason onto revolutionaries, who are inherently unreasonable. When they commit to perpetual revolution, they are tacitly admitting they will never stop.
Reasonable people need to be reminded of this again, and again, because it is an entirely alien mindset.
I tried proposing that Ilhan Omar should embrace her incest-positive past on reddit politics- She could be the proud first openly “I” supporting role model.
not wanting to be labeled as extremists as ernsithe said, or they genuinely don't think they are extreme left enough
A reminder that the near entirety of the Scottish Wikipedia was written by a single american teenager, and no one caught onto this, for years.
Wikipedia is written, edited, and controlled by a bunch of obsessed, mentally deranged progandists hammering their particular hobby-horse. Don't trust it as a source. Ever.
i WISH they were far right.
We really fucked up by letting communists lay claim to the last encyclopedia 20 years ago.
The left-right spectrum in the US is apparently seen as an anomaly among first world countries. I recall predditors say that there is no real major left wing party here.
I don't know that I've ever thought about what gets considered more or less extreme.
Those people are wrong. All modern political parties are left wing because none of them are monarchist.
Its because most politicians in America still pretend to hold some of those pesky "foundational liberties" as unquestionable, at least out loud.
So the fact that the Libs try to pass "gun control" laws instead of "banning all guns instantly" means the Libs are actually vaguely right wing instead of the "superior" European Left to most Redditors and their ilk.
It's going to be different around the world based on political cultures. All of Europe is considered more left wing but they all have much more restrictive laws on abortion than all of the US during RvW and more restrictive than most states still (France for example bans it under 14 weeks)
Didn't Israel sort of admit before they have a lot of control over wikipedia? A lot of them are trying to walk back their propping up of Far-left activists after finding out most of these golems side with Hamas yet they still insist on making Far-right to be some sort of boogie man. Everytime I want to give them benefit of the doubt, I find out something about them making them feel untrustworthy.
Anyone right of Mao is a threat to muh dEmOcRaCy!
To be fair, they’re not far left. They just pretend to be once every couple of press cycles
Yes this is objectively true to a leftist. We always make fun of them like it's a joke, yet "Omg you guys think anyone to the right of Mao is a right-winger!" is one question where leftists legitimately answer "Chad Yes." Most leftists and left-liberals sincerely believe that America is a far-right authoritarian nation. More thoughtful communists may say it's a liberal empire. They all agree that only a legitimate self-declared Communist could be called "far-left". (but if someone like that ever got into office they'd find some other way to make them "not far-left")
Its not like they were ever hiding it. The "all American politics is mid Right on the CHART" meme is older than any of this discussion, which was them admitting openly they think the fucking Democratic Party is the "regular Right wing" to the Republican's far right.
People just didn't have their senses woke at the time to hear what such statements actually meant, and instead just ignored it.