The right image defines it as "realistic," which one could hope simply means that if they cannot tell if its an actual child or not they lean on the side of caution and absolutely destroy that shit.
Because that part has always been super illegal, and was one of the big reasons for the Supreme Court case in the 90s, wherein guys were pasting kids heads on nude bodies and other stuff were it could be CP unless you specifically knew it wasn't.
But that's probably not going to be the case, as that's far too much interest in protecting actual kids over angry feelings about drawings.
The problem is some people cannot separate "I personally find it reprehensible and will judge you on it" from "It should be illegal, banished and the full weight thrown at you for it."
Personally, I find it quite effective to simply quote actual laws at them and the history of them, which usually gets them caught in a loop of screaming "YOU ARE A PEDO FOR EVEN QUESTIONING IT! The government would NEVER abuse a law if you let them pass it!!"
People on here actively refuse to separate the two. I have flat out said I don't want it banned just acknowledged that it's pedo shit and all I'll hear back is "you're trying to censor" "so you want it banned"
(Not to undermine your point, adding clarification)
Quite a few of the states where consent is not explicitly 18, they have Romeo-Juliet laws instead, where 16~18(-1 day) yo adolescents can consent if both male and female are in the range, but it's still 18 if one or the other is not.
True. But my point remains: they care more about fictional characters than the ACTUAL CHILDREN their congressmen are fucking for blackmail material so they're always controlled. Step out of line, the footage gets released. Right, Dennis Hastert?
That will be revealed in the next couple of years. You heard it here first.
There are lots of states where 16 or 17 is completely legal. Romeo and Juliet laws are more for situations like a high school senior dating a freshman.
so you don’t go to prison for banging your 15 year old girlfriend at 17
That's why I brought up said laws.
I don't want to get too deep into the details of this because it gets confusing and messy, but my understanding is there are three aspects to consent: Age difference (the Romeo-and-Juliet laws), Authority and then No Restrictions. Depending on the state, the first, the second, or both may not apply. (I believe the "authority" stuff is so teachers and instructors aren't molesting teens that just finished puberty)
From a quick look up, currently the No Restrictions ages of consent are 16 in 17 states, 17 in 5 states, 18 in 27 states, and 21 in the state of Washington. So 18 is technically the most common without special additions. 15 states have the "by authority" limit at 16yo which means for those states it is technically 16. It's 17 for two states, so that makes 17 states where it's actually not 18. (EDIT: My math was wrong here, it's 32-33 states)
I should have clarified that I meant 18 as "unrestricted" consent, because I wrongly assumed that was what consent meant. There's also the whole social aspect that throws a wrench in assumptions, where most people I come across view going at under 18 as pedophilia/gross, even if it's technically legal in a third two thirds of the nation.
I don’t come across the under 18 crazy crowd, because I live in the majority of the continental USA where 16 and 17 are legal.
Saying sex with a 17 year old and 364 days is comical. Gotta wait until midnight if you don’t wanna be a pedophile!
18 is a ridiculous age of consent. Juniors and seniors in high school are having sex, and they sometimes seek out older partners. Criminalizing what is happening everywhere is insane.
There are going to be AI Art detecting AIs. There probably already are. If they can use a tool to detect that it is not a real photo, then that is part of due diligence.
Prosecution "Your honor, this is evil filth thrown them in prison forever!"
Defense: "You honor, may I point out that the image has seven fingers on her right hand, as well as an unlikely level of visual symmetry. It is clearly generated by a machine."
If I ran Twitter it wouldn't be a platform for sexual content at all so this is fine with me.
I'm not sure exactly what I see in this screenshot, but if "sexualization of minors" is against the rules then it can't possibly be enforced or all the tranny cordless would be banned.
Tumblr did that and it crashed literally overnight. OnlyFans wanted to and it had numbers crash. Once you go porn, you can never stop doing porn or become irrelevant and penniless.
It's interesting; Those guy who started it got out fine. A long time ago I think. And also there's no value to the company now. IDK if those things are precisely related, but I wouldn't be shocked. A lot of businesses are personalities writ large.
I think you underestimate the sheer amount of "artists" and "content creators" who use Twitter for the majority of their advertising and bring obscene numbers of people to the platform.
Tumblr also thought it was a great place for discussion and its literally the foundational bed of a huge portion of the Woke ideology and its rank and file believers. None of that was enough to stave off its death.
Tumblr was a great place for discussion if you liked to ship cartoon characters together or you were mentally ill or you were a 13-18 year old female. I haven't seen any evidence it grew beyond that.
They have their own fair share of sluts but just don’t go down any fan art rabbit hole of any western cartoon. Twitter is 100% more deprived than Tumblr ever was. It is just better at keeping Pandora’s Box hidden unless you dig for it.
With AI Generated nudes on the rise, I feel like these sorts of laws are going to become pointless and archaic soon. She's 17yo. No she's 18yo. She's clearly 14yo because she had no tits. Are you implying all women who have A cups are underage? Your mom has A cups, is she a child? Are you a child molester because you sucked on your mommy's A cups? SHE'S CLEARLY 13yo, you can tell by the freshness of the skin. FRESHNESS OF THE SKIN WTF YOU SICK PEDO, she's clearly 18yo because of the hands. Looks, she even has 6 fingers. You need at least 18 years on this planet to grow a 6th finger.
There was never any blurred lines when age of consent was 12yo for well over a thousand years. Feminism is what started to blur the lines and they set the age too high. The higher the age of consent is set, the more it gets blurred because the less it makes sense.
The issue we're faced with when it comes to "kids" isn't so much age of consent but rather the purpose of sex altogether. It's one thing to marry a girl, have sex, start a family then continue to have a healthy sexual relationship. It's another thing altogether to have your women turn into total whores looking to fuck as many men as they can. What good is this sort of sex regardless of the age she starts having it? She could be 30 years old and this kind of sex is still just has harmful as it was when she started at 13 years old.
The destruction of "family values" is the problem not so much age of consent. The people fucking up other people's kids don't even need to have sex with the kids to completely mess them up by getting them hyper-focused on sex from such a young age. Age of Consent laws don't protect a whole advertising industry from telling your sons and daughters that their entire worth as a person is based on how much sex with hot men and women they're having. Then they get to college, well above any age of consent laws, and even if they were a virgin then, after college they're a worthless whore. Age of consent laws don't protect against this.
The problem is that the tech is starting to get so good in certain areas that boomers fear it now. Before it was "teehee, excel spreadsheets? I don't know how to use those haha." Now it's "oh fuck, with AI image/video generation at the level it's at now, people are going to be able to fake the moon landing better than I did. Soon, all the propaganda I use against the masses will become useless because the masses are going to wakeup and realize all digital videos/images are 100% fake. Not only that, how am I going to continuously get young people to throw their lives away consuming things when they can just generate it entirely on their own without any Intellectual Property laws ensuring I make all the profit on what they consume. This is outrageous! We must defend ourselves from this AI."
Jesus. They even went for the old Discord-style "babyfur is allowed exception" by clarifying that it's only applicable to human children. Burn it down. To the ground and then salt the earth. Social media was a fucking mistake.
Since Twitter isn't adult media focused site, I'm okay with this so long as it's not abused to include illustrations of petite women over the age of 18.
That stuff should be on adult media sites anyway not social media. I'd say the same for gore and the like. I'd have more of an issue if the banned ALL illustrations and left the ethots alone as that's blatant favoritism.
That situation when Projekt Melody came onto the scene was so funny because essentially they were crying that she was smarter about it since her real body wasn't shown so could still go out in public or get into a relationship and not have awkward meetings with family.
The other thing they were pissed about was she was ACTUALLY an entertainer first, a lot of those camgirls get naked and stare blankly at the camera, from what I hear and the few sfw clips I see on YouTube, she's interacting with her audience, joking and playing games, the main thing those sites give her is less restrictions in what she can say compared to Twitch so if her model gotta show tits to be on there, that's a fair trade.
IMHO they should ban all e thots next. They are the ones now gloating while being the biggest cancer in the whole Internet. I cannot stand these people one bit, they're under a lot of people I follow, I don't follow any NSFW account mind you(mostly shit posts). It's fun to see them get dunked I'm but also annoying at the same time.
I think we should just pivot more to accept fictional porn so AI created, CGI, drawings etc in a way they are at least not targeted by financial services for mearly operating and move to close down all porn that includes REAL humans eventually making ethottery using your real body undesirable.
Porn using real humans, as shown by this recent Lotus eaters video about mindgeek are incapable and unwilling to deal with human trafficking and child exploitation that comes with it so best to remove the human element of it and make it so you are using fiction to get a release than relying on seeing humans that could be forced to do it.
I remember years ago one of those NSFW Flash games that advocates against real life porn and only for animated. I cannot remember the name but I've always agreed with that. I got nothing against drawn porn personally.
its strange that they would put cartoon in their reporting system but their actual rules still say that it has to be realistic. i also wonder why lolicon is something that gets people upset but furry isnt. But regardless i doubt many people will still be using twitter once it starts asking people to pay money for its use(yeah they are planning on doing that in case you didnt know)
That's the greatest strength of fiction: It allows you to indulge a taboo without causing the real life damage which made it a taboo in the first place.
Thought Crimes and Sinful Thoughts were always a moronic idea.
If you cross a busy street or a town square then there's a good chance there's a filthy coomer just around the corner and you wont even realize it.
I noticed that after posting this. Don't know why the reporting reason is different from the policy. Maybe they're intending to change the policy so this is just being done in advance.
Reminder that the age of consent is only 18 in a few states.
But one of those states is California. So in their bubble, they think it's everywhere.
Not that it matters. Drawings do not have human rights.
I don't like the art, but I hate censorship more.
The right image defines it as "realistic," which one could hope simply means that if they cannot tell if its an actual child or not they lean on the side of caution and absolutely destroy that shit.
Because that part has always been super illegal, and was one of the big reasons for the Supreme Court case in the 90s, wherein guys were pasting kids heads on nude bodies and other stuff were it could be CP unless you specifically knew it wasn't.
But that's probably not going to be the case, as that's far too much interest in protecting actual kids over angry feelings about drawings.
But you know damn well its gonna be exploited where they report every anime character lol.
not just "no boobs" i've seen people complaining "the face looks like a child" about characters that are obviously well over the age
Uzaki-chan just wanted to hang out...
So that's Rob Liefield in the clear since he's never, ever been able to draw feet.
Greg Land however with his pathological scanning of real faces, likely porn faces at that... 🙄
The problem is some people cannot separate "I personally find it reprehensible and will judge you on it" from "It should be illegal, banished and the full weight thrown at you for it."
Personally, I find it quite effective to simply quote actual laws at them and the history of them, which usually gets them caught in a loop of screaming "YOU ARE A PEDO FOR EVEN QUESTIONING IT! The government would NEVER abuse a law if you let them pass it!!"
People on here actively refuse to separate the two. I have flat out said I don't want it banned just acknowledged that it's pedo shit and all I'll hear back is "you're trying to censor" "so you want it banned"
(Not to undermine your point, adding clarification) Quite a few of the states where consent is not explicitly 18, they have Romeo-Juliet laws instead, where 16~18(-1 day) yo adolescents can consent if both male and female are in the range, but it's still 18 if one or the other is not.
True. But my point remains: they care more about fictional characters than the ACTUAL CHILDREN their congressmen are fucking for blackmail material so they're always controlled. Step out of line, the footage gets released. Right, Dennis Hastert?
That will be revealed in the next couple of years. You heard it here first.
There are lots of states where 16 or 17 is completely legal. Romeo and Juliet laws are more for situations like a high school senior dating a freshman.
That’s not the case for most of the US. 16 is most common, then 17, then 18.
Most have Romeo and Juliet laws in addition, so you don’t go to prison for banging your 15 year old girlfriend at 17.
That's why I brought up said laws.
I don't want to get too deep into the details of this because it gets confusing and messy, but my understanding is there are three aspects to consent: Age difference (the Romeo-and-Juliet laws), Authority and then No Restrictions. Depending on the state, the first, the second, or both may not apply. (I believe the "authority" stuff is so teachers and instructors aren't molesting teens that just finished puberty)
From a quick look up, currently the No Restrictions ages of consent are 16 in 17 states, 17 in 5 states, 18 in 27 states, and 21 in the state of Washington. So 18 is technically the most common without special additions. 15 states have the "by authority" limit at 16yo which means for those states it is technically 16. It's 17 for two states, so that makes
17 states where it's actually not 18.(EDIT: My math was wrong here, it's 32-33 states)I should have clarified that I meant 18 as "unrestricted" consent, because I wrongly assumed that was what consent meant. There's also the whole social aspect that throws a wrench in assumptions, where most people I come across view going at under 18 as pedophilia/gross, even if it's technically legal in
a thirdtwo thirds of the nation.I don’t come across the under 18 crazy crowd, because I live in the majority of the continental USA where 16 and 17 are legal.
Saying sex with a 17 year old and 364 days is comical. Gotta wait until midnight if you don’t wanna be a pedophile!
18 is a ridiculous age of consent. Juniors and seniors in high school are having sex, and they sometimes seek out older partners. Criminalizing what is happening everywhere is insane.
Where are you getting the age of consent is 21 in WA state? I looked it up and it is 16. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States
The "unrestricted" column says 21 for WA state. Above I said
Add: This is what I meant by it being confusing. The whole "authority" thing throws it off and can make it seem like "unrestricted" is the one
Gotcha.
There are going to be AI Art detecting AIs. There probably already are. If they can use a tool to detect that it is not a real photo, then that is part of due diligence.
Prosecution "Your honor, this is evil filth thrown them in prison forever!"
Defense: "You honor, may I point out that the image has seven fingers on her right hand, as well as an unlikely level of visual symmetry. It is clearly generated by a machine."
Overly realistic images of children in sexual situations are already illegal and considered CP
It really depends on your jurisdiction, mate. Go talk to a Canadian or an Aussie.
If I ran Twitter it wouldn't be a platform for sexual content at all so this is fine with me.
I'm not sure exactly what I see in this screenshot, but if "sexualization of minors" is against the rules then it can't possibly be enforced or all the tranny cordless would be banned.
Tumblr did that and it crashed literally overnight. OnlyFans wanted to and it had numbers crash. Once you go porn, you can never stop doing porn or become irrelevant and penniless.
Yep.. yahoo bought tumblr for like 1.2 billion. Ban of porn made it lose like 1/3 of users. Yahoo sold tumblr for 1.6 million a year or two later lol.
Yahoo is good at that
They had a visionary female CEO.
It's interesting; Those guy who started it got out fine. A long time ago I think. And also there's no value to the company now. IDK if those things are precisely related, but I wouldn't be shocked. A lot of businesses are personalities writ large.
Oh those things are absolutely related. I've done a case study on the fall of Yahoo. I'll tell you all about it (in broad strokes) if you want.
I'll read your thing; You don't have to type it out here unless this is the first time.
Twitter Twitter doesn't depend on sluts and yaoi fangirls. It depends on political sluts
I think you underestimate the sheer amount of "artists" and "content creators" who use Twitter for the majority of their advertising and bring obscene numbers of people to the platform.
Tumblr also thought it was a great place for discussion and its literally the foundational bed of a huge portion of the Woke ideology and its rank and file believers. None of that was enough to stave off its death.
Tumblr was a great place for discussion if you liked to ship cartoon characters together or you were mentally ill or you were a 13-18 year old female. I haven't seen any evidence it grew beyond that.
They have their own fair share of sluts but just don’t go down any fan art rabbit hole of any western cartoon. Twitter is 100% more deprived than Tumblr ever was. It is just better at keeping Pandora’s Box hidden unless you dig for it.
Only fans wasn't supposed to be necessarily a porn website; it just ended up that way same as Tumblr.
I would agree in banning all sexual content on such a platform
If it's hard to read, I posted a link to the whole policy page on my own comment in this post
With AI Generated nudes on the rise, I feel like these sorts of laws are going to become pointless and archaic soon. She's 17yo. No she's 18yo. She's clearly 14yo because she had no tits. Are you implying all women who have A cups are underage? Your mom has A cups, is she a child? Are you a child molester because you sucked on your mommy's A cups? SHE'S CLEARLY 13yo, you can tell by the freshness of the skin. FRESHNESS OF THE SKIN WTF YOU SICK PEDO, she's clearly 18yo because of the hands. Looks, she even has 6 fingers. You need at least 18 years on this planet to grow a 6th finger.
There was never any blurred lines when age of consent was 12yo for well over a thousand years. Feminism is what started to blur the lines and they set the age too high. The higher the age of consent is set, the more it gets blurred because the less it makes sense.
The issue we're faced with when it comes to "kids" isn't so much age of consent but rather the purpose of sex altogether. It's one thing to marry a girl, have sex, start a family then continue to have a healthy sexual relationship. It's another thing altogether to have your women turn into total whores looking to fuck as many men as they can. What good is this sort of sex regardless of the age she starts having it? She could be 30 years old and this kind of sex is still just has harmful as it was when she started at 13 years old.
The destruction of "family values" is the problem not so much age of consent. The people fucking up other people's kids don't even need to have sex with the kids to completely mess them up by getting them hyper-focused on sex from such a young age. Age of Consent laws don't protect a whole advertising industry from telling your sons and daughters that their entire worth as a person is based on how much sex with hot men and women they're having. Then they get to college, well above any age of consent laws, and even if they were a virgin then, after college they're a worthless whore. Age of consent laws don't protect against this.
The problem is that the tech is starting to get so good in certain areas that boomers fear it now. Before it was "teehee, excel spreadsheets? I don't know how to use those haha." Now it's "oh fuck, with AI image/video generation at the level it's at now, people are going to be able to fake the moon landing better than I did. Soon, all the propaganda I use against the masses will become useless because the masses are going to wakeup and realize all digital videos/images are 100% fake. Not only that, how am I going to continuously get young people to throw their lives away consuming things when they can just generate it entirely on their own without any Intellectual Property laws ensuring I make all the profit on what they consume. This is outrageous! We must defend ourselves from this AI."
Jesus. They even went for the old Discord-style "babyfur is allowed exception" by clarifying that it's only applicable to human children. Burn it down. To the ground and then salt the earth. Social media was a fucking mistake.
Judging by the rules page, this rule was always in place just not in the report system
Interesting to see how this will be abused, since according to Twitter, minors are anyone under 18. (deviantArt logic is probably at work here too.)
minor
noun
1 : a person who is not yet old enough to have the rights of an adult
a "cartoon" or "illustration" is NOT A PERSON
Since Twitter isn't adult media focused site, I'm okay with this so long as it's not abused to include illustrations of petite women over the age of 18.
That stuff should be on adult media sites anyway not social media. I'd say the same for gore and the like. I'd have more of an issue if the banned ALL illustrations and left the ethots alone as that's blatant favoritism.
you know that its definitely going to be abused in that way.
That situation when Projekt Melody came onto the scene was so funny because essentially they were crying that she was smarter about it since her real body wasn't shown so could still go out in public or get into a relationship and not have awkward meetings with family.
The other thing they were pissed about was she was ACTUALLY an entertainer first, a lot of those camgirls get naked and stare blankly at the camera, from what I hear and the few sfw clips I see on YouTube, she's interacting with her audience, joking and playing games, the main thing those sites give her is less restrictions in what she can say compared to Twitch so if her model gotta show tits to be on there, that's a fair trade.
I know but I at least said it, I'm having to hide my shortstacks as much as my tomboys and redheads nowadays....
IMHO they should ban all e thots next. They are the ones now gloating while being the biggest cancer in the whole Internet. I cannot stand these people one bit, they're under a lot of people I follow, I don't follow any NSFW account mind you(mostly shit posts). It's fun to see them get dunked I'm but also annoying at the same time.
I think we should just pivot more to accept fictional porn so AI created, CGI, drawings etc in a way they are at least not targeted by financial services for mearly operating and move to close down all porn that includes REAL humans eventually making ethottery using your real body undesirable.
Porn using real humans, as shown by this recent Lotus eaters video about mindgeek are incapable and unwilling to deal with human trafficking and child exploitation that comes with it so best to remove the human element of it and make it so you are using fiction to get a release than relying on seeing humans that could be forced to do it.
I remember years ago one of those NSFW Flash games that advocates against real life porn and only for animated. I cannot remember the name but I've always agreed with that. I got nothing against drawn porn personally.
its strange that they would put cartoon in their reporting system but their actual rules still say that it has to be realistic. i also wonder why lolicon is something that gets people upset but furry isnt. But regardless i doubt many people will still be using twitter once it starts asking people to pay money for its use(yeah they are planning on doing that in case you didnt know)
That's the greatest strength of fiction: It allows you to indulge a taboo without causing the real life damage which made it a taboo in the first place.
Thought Crimes and Sinful Thoughts were always a moronic idea.
If you cross a busy street or a town square then there's a good chance there's a filthy coomer just around the corner and you wont even realize it.
Are you hyper ventilating now reader?
I noticed that after posting this. Don't know why the reporting reason is different from the policy. Maybe they're intending to change the policy so this is just being done in advance.
Twitter would literally sieze to exist without porn and without trump related posts lol
Last I heard through the grapevine they do go after anime depictions as well.
You gotta draw the line somewhere. Animals aren't children so it's not CSAM