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Rolling Stone: Sophie Turner Isn’t a Bad Mom. You’re Just a Misogynist (archive.ph)
posted 2 years ago by Ahaus667 2 years ago by Ahaus667 +43 / -0
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– TerpenoidTester 42 points 2 years ago +42 / -0

There was a story attributing the split to the couple’s “very different lifestyles,” with a “source with direct knowledge” telling TMZ: “She likes to party, he likes to stay at home.”

Is this the secret Hollywood way of saying 'she is cheating on him by banging lots of other guys'?

I keep seeing this pop up as a defense for women who are divorcing.

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– bartbertbirtbortburt 35 points 2 years ago +35 / -0

the secret Hollywood way of saying 'she is cheating on him by banging lots of other guys'?

I've known so many women who start boinking strange the moment they're unhappy in the marriage. Good Christian women. Funny thing is they've always got a new BF while they're "working through difficult times." Meanwhile the dude is pathetically seeking social penance and "working out his problems."

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– bartbertbirtbortburt 21 points 2 years ago +21 / -0

disproportionately represented online and in the media, white and middle/upper class.

One of the problems with the Imp being back, is that you can't say too many Impish things. If I may share a personal story, I'm afraid that the average woman is as bad as they say. The story is, in fact, from the "religious" sphere so you might not be surprised. I had a cousin who married a big boobed chick, she was all that: fun, pretty, decent cook. They split a year after the wedding. Not particularly surprising.

What was surprising, was overhearing was hearing my own mother (8 years after the fact) explaining that the reason for my cousin's marriage dissolved was: he watched some porn. That the girls was fucking the Pastor didn't come up. Only way MY mom heard this fanciful story was from my cousins mom.

The "mothers" of my family are still blaming my schmuck cousin for his wife being a whore.

Of all word in tongue and pen the saddest are these: the Imp is right again.

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– thepalagoon 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

You know, Imp, I do mostly agree with you. I think a lot of us do. But only 85-95% -- and that last little bit feels like a huge gulf.

You are who you are and you don't (and shouldn't) apologize for that -- but I do wish you could temper your rhetoric a bit. You would accomplish more.

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– Ender910 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

That's... almost exactly what I wrote in a reply to him like 6 months ago, lol. Same kind of wording too.

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– DemolitionsPanda 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

History is clear, for almost the entirety of history, the top males have access to multiple women and the rest don't get the chance to reproduce.

One of the innovations of Christianity and the precursor Judaism was that of enforced monogamy. The top achievers get the top women but the commitment is for life. No takebacks. The rest of men get a chance at reproduction if they participate in society and follow the rules.

This was a fantastic benefit for everyone in far reaching and complex ways.

For contrast look at the middle east where multiple wives are permitted, or the fatherlessness of some sections of the USA.

Women have always hated having to be faithful. They have been working together to tear down marriage and monogamy for more than a hundred years, only to find out that the alternative is worse.

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– WeedleTLiar 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

To be fair, they literally had to punish cheating women by bludgeoning them to death with rocks in order to enforce monogamy.

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– bartbertbirtbortburt 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

Good Christian women™

That was a joke; no reddit /s here. Fuck R16.

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– ExtraCharger 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

Evolutionary biology acknowledges that the most likely women to reproduce and survive were those who could switch loyalties.

Enough of that pop culture "evolutionary biology" shit. You idea isn't biology, it's coming up with a vaguely scientific-sounding justification of contemporary female behavior. It's also unfeasible and unprovable, because to prove there is no such experiment we can carry out to prove how humans evolved.

The reality is that humans are extremely capable of adopting many vastly different types of behavior, mainly to adapt to their environment. In the current environment of Western societies, it is beneficial for women to adopt selfish duplicitous behavior, so they do so. But this doesn't mean that they can't be better people. They simply choose not to be better people.

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– thepalagoon 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

Evolutionary biology is incorrect here. It's evolutionary psychology -- which is basically splitting hairs.

One of the hardest red pills I have ever had to swallow is that the vast majority of women (even my PhD wife) are logically deficient and rely on feelings. When you rely on feelings you can justify any of your actions because it "felt right/good."

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– ExtraCharger 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Evolutionary biology is incorrect here. It's evolutionary psychology -- which is basically splitting hairs.

Yes, it's usually called "evolutionary psychology" but it's bullshit no matter what it's called. Actual evolutionary biology can be a useful science. Evolutionary psychology not so much.

One of the hardest red pills I have ever had to swallow is that the vast majority of women (even my PhD wife) are logically deficient and rely on feelings. When you rely on feelings you can justify any of your actions because it "felt right/good."

She isn't logically deficient then. She is morally deficient. You are married to a time bomb. Good luck!

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– thepalagoon 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

She's a time bomb because she uses feelings before logic?

That is quite literally nearly every woman, mate.

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– ExtraCharger 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Yes, she's a time bomb if she uses feelings to derive moral principles of what's right and wrong, your words were:

When you rely on feelings you can justify any of your actions because it "felt right/good"

Someone willing to justify their any of their actions based on their feelings has no moral core. Sure, everyone, both men and women, often rationalize their wrongful behaviour away, but at the end of the day what's stopping people becoming truly evil is their conscience which (eventually) steps in to say "stop". What you described above is someone who is willing to override their conscience for "any of their actions" if the action, for example, makes them happy. Unlike TheImp, I don't believe women are all morally-deficient, so not all women are like that. But anyone that fits that description is.

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– Adamrises 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Actual evolutionary biology can be a useful science. Evolutionary psychology not so much.

Because as we know, the brain isn't an organ and thereby the study of living organism's anatomy and behavior resulting from it is completely useless.

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– deleted 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0
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– ExtraCharger 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

I wasn't disputing this. I simply said that it is their "default mode" to not be.

Not, you implied women 'evolved' to be duplicitous. This argument is always evoked by people pushing biological determinism.

Historical records show a huge amount of war...

Yes, I'm sure there are historical records in support of your idea. It doesn't prove anything because you are simply backfitting the data to fit what you have already decided.

In the end, it's a completely pointless and unnecessary argument. All that matters is observing their behavior now and pointing out how this is bad behavior. There is no need to try to tenuously link that behavior to "evolution"; that simply detracts from the main point.

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– ExtraCharger 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Enough of your tradcuck bullshit. Tradcuck ideas are not traditional. They are feminist. Actual traditional societies valued men over women.

Humans are not pigs or dogs, and if you think human behavior is as limited as that of dogs or pigs, you are the one that needs a biology lesson, not me.

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– when_we_win_remember 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

He all but said she was whoring around.

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– Michalusmichalus 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

He cheated on Taylor Swift when they were 18. He's going for sympathy points no one has. He's getting killed by Swifties that knew he was on a tiny tour while TS in on Eras. Even my son that never watched his show is getting the hahaha vids in his feed.

https://youtu.be/jVxuHWlF5NM?si=OZxVzIcvARI0atXn

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– when_we_win_remember 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Yeah but I mean everybody cheats on Taylor Swift.

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– Michalusmichalus 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

That's sad.

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It is. She's a sad girl, that's made a lot of money on being a sad girl.

IDK much about sad people.

I see people in car videos that are sad boys. So they indicate by the writings upon their car, which is the fashion of the youth.

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– Michalusmichalus 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I'm a fan that stopped doing all media for years. I've been listening to catch up on albums, and yesterday I realized there's even a few emo songs. I think she has ups and downs like the rest of us.

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– activated_almonds 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Probably. If you're spending time with a group of friends, it's not really "partying", now is it?

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– Ahaus667 [S] 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

There was a story attributing the split to the couple’s “very different lifestyles,” with a “source with direct knowledge” telling TMZ: “She likes to party, he likes to stay at home.”

What a responsible mom

Amid a slew of other news stories about bad mothers — about a woman who got yelled at on the internet when she breastfed after getting a spray tan, or a single mother whose 14-year-old was arrested for stealing a car — Turner has ended up with the same label as countless maligned maternal figures throughout history, from Medea to Mama Rose. Except her only crime, as far as the public knows, is being young, hot, famous, and in a high-profile marriage that appears to not be working out.

I would say child neglect is being a bad mom

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– FuckGenderPolitics 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

That just means he doesn't touch children.

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– MLGS 22 points 2 years ago +22 / -0

She never struck me as somebody who would have kids in the first place, honestly.

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– TheStupidPrizeWinner 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Is she a bad mom? Maybe.

Is calling people misogynist because they think she is a bad mom a dick move? Absolutely.

Is someone who self identifies as a "Disney adult" cringe? Gamer, this is a glass house that revels in escapism. Please exit before throwing stones.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

Is she a bad mom? Maybe.

Not maybe. She's going out and getting dicked by random dudes while the father (assuming he is the father) watches the kids. It's hard to imagine her being a worse mom without things taking a Casey Anthony turn.

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– TheStupidPrizeWinner 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Her infidelity is easily presumed, and I would a agree that it is likely true, but we do not know for sure and likely never will.

We can all agree that the court of public opinion is pretty shit, and that the media is swinging for her pretty hard in a coordinated manner.

Personally, I think the husband has multiple smoking guns, but he also has at least look like he is playing nice over this "mutual split", so he is trying to bury her because he has seen what happens when the story gets out and is against you, true or not.

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– bloodguard 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

Translation: She's a horrible Mother but admitting it goes against the narrative.

Kind of feel just a tad sorry for Joe Jonas. He's going to get pilloried and dragged through the mud either way this shakes out.

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– milkcowhplus 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

All celebrities are shit parents and have completely fucked up home lives. Hth

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– Ender910 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

I think there are some exceptions, but as a rule of thumb it's a reasonably high probability.

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– KingLion7 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

She went crazy these last couple years. Her makeup and hair style scream witch. She looks positively demonic in some photos.

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– computadora 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Her prime lasted for like, two years. She's hideous now. Pretty sure she went to see Tom Brady's jaw guy.

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– KingLion7 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

She is trying to look equal parts attractive and repulsive. Like her brain (or more accurately, her ego) is at war with her vagina. Both parts want feminist domination, but they want different types of feminist domination.

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– smokeypanda 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

On the GoT commentary tracks, Sophie and Maisie were insufferable and off-topic. I don't take for granted that being a teenage girl automatically makes one obnoxious, instead that the duo is still shallow having passed Emilia's age when the show started. Joe Jonas should have judged the book by it's cover.

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– Michalusmichalus 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

You know it's all manufactured drama right? When this first hit it was compared to how Ryan Renalds, and his wife take turns making movies so the other can watch the kids. It's exactly the same actions, but since one couple is still a couple its nbd.

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– thrwaway_1000 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Rolling Stone is a shit publication for the cucks out there. It hasn't been relevant in years, like the shit music industry of today it's past it's prime. Guess, more like rotting on the side of the road past it's prime.

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– Smith1980 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

So glad I gave up on the rolling stone years ago. I wanted a music magazine. Not some left wing garbage

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– Michalusmichalus 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

They sneak in music once in a blue moon, but those articles aren't safe from the woke bs.

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– Michalusmichalus 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

This is the man that inspired, " Better than revenge". He's not exactly grand. Taylor lucked out. Seriously.

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/joe-jonas-dating-history-taylor-swift-sophie-turner-more/

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– realerfunction 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

MUH SOJINYYYYYYYYYY

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– WeedleTLiar 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

millennial power couple who recently announced they were ending their four-and-a-half-year marriage on Instagram following weeks of speculation.

Anyone giving them attention is a bad person.

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– Adamrises 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

It does because I is one. I make no excuses for what I am to justify how "ackshually I am just attempting to X by acting this way!"

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– deleted 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

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