anime tourist/invader doesnt know what "shonen" means
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An anime that features a guy ripping apart creatures with chainsaw blades coming out of his arms and head for the promise of eventually getting laid: for women
There are PLENTY of shows for men, women, the entire family, but takes like this get the response from all, fuck off tourist!
she got 1600 likes for this . Fucking anime tourists who dont even know the basics of anime culture. And of course they are from the woke crowd
That's 1600 tourists considering that anime/manga market eclipses ALL of the Western comic and animated market. It would do even better if they made distribution of media a lot easier to buy.
The actual fandom is too busy watching and reading stuff because there's too much variety to keep up with, I'm barely watching all the anime I wanted to watch this season alone.
1600 isn’t much
Laughs as someone who read ahead...
The only way I usually see an 'evil' entity 'winning' in anime and manga is if they are as I like to term, a passive evil
An example of this is Sadako Yamamura from the Ring series, so long as you don't view the tape or make someone else watch it you're fine, any other interaction and you make it worse and even more powerful. This is 'fuck around and find out' territory of DON'T enter the off-limits building, don't summon a demon etc.
A lot of these stories staring manipulators usually end with them either dying, suffering or getting left behind in some karmic way. Not something manipulative bitches want to be reminded of.
Dying/suffering/etc are not necessarily in opposition to "winning". Code Geass has a couple examples of people who suffer/die/etc, but who would define the end-state as a win. Even evil people. Evil is allowed to accept their own death as a worthy sacrifice to change the world, same as Good is.
I would say there's a good subsection of "Evil" that is allowed to win, beyond horror entities: Nihilists, the suicidal, and though less often also manipulators. Kafka dies laughing madly, pleased as punch at not only his destructive works, but also the works of the heroes killing him.
The key isn't in whether evil gets the W or not, the key is in whether the audience likes the evil character. Manipulators generally speaking are a projection of the author onto a villain, and thus get rather harsh endings to them, for certain, but if the author and their target demographic aren't opposed to the idea (either a manipulator protagonist, or just like the manipulator as a side act) they can often pay off their karma pre-emptively in backstory, or through active payment in-story, and still get a positive ending (Redo of Healer comes to mind, paying the karma in episode 1 to do whatever he wants in the rest of the story, and women gush buckets for that psycho).
True but I usually class those as 'revengers' as the author builds up a revenge story to justify their 'vengeance' or they paint the world as 'sick' and only extreme measures can be used to correct it. How much people love the 'evil characters' does impact their karmic returns, just look at Overlord, despite ALL the stuff Demiurge has done, he's probably getting off Scott free with some medal.
I hate Overlord. What a crapfest of a story and main character. I don't get all the fans of that crap.
Skeleton Knight is basically Overlord if Ainz was a bro and actually had weaknesses despite being an OP level-100 warrior.
That's usually because writing "active evil" in a way that is compelling is really hard. They either need to have a crippling weakness to allow the story to drag on, which diminishes any real threatening aura they may have, or are a constant villain of inconsistent writing that keeps them making dumb mistakes that makes it impossible to take them seriously to begin with.
And even if you succeed, you have the final risk of "then why is there even a story" where you have to somehow justify them not just finishing the heroes and ending the story every time.
Griffith is a rare example of an "Active Evil" who is competently written and generally avoids all the pitfalls that would plague the character in any other work. But look at how high a bar that is, how many writers are even within a throwing distance of Berserk?
Honestly, its one of the few ways Western Comics has the leg up. Because things can just be decanonized on a whim, or just serialized for a very short "what if" run from the outset. So they can take villains and just make them act like they want to win for once, and not have to worry about the next issue that follows it.
Not CSM but shonen will forever be cursed to have a large fujo fanbase who fundamentally misinterpret male rivalry as sexual tension
Fujos are the forever living proof that the worst part of any fandom is the women.
If not for them, we wouldn't need the Sasuke archetype in every single series being the most insufferable character possible. But he ranks high on polls because he makes gineys tingle so he never going to see consequences or change.
Its weird. Girls tend to like the most toxic of characters.. girls like harley quinn for example. Crazy bitch.
Girls didn't like Harley until they were told to like Harley. Pre-Suicide Squad she was almost entire a "fanservice for dudes" character. Then she got a bit of mainstream attention, so now she was a cosplay option for sluts and let them pretend being crazy is part of a "character" men like. The same way her and Ivy being gay used to be "hot lesbian subtext" until they were told it was Super Progressive, and now they are iconic LGBT icons.
But in terms of male characters yeah, they always go for the most toxic ones.
Even then, I think most people thought Sasuke was fine until they did the whole revolution shit post-4th War, which I personally didn't mind, but I'm the type of person who thinks that there should've been more people who found out the true fate of the Uchiha clan.
I disliked him from episode one. He didn't get enough time getting his smugness beat down to justify his defection, and not enough on screen showing any "good parts" of his personality to care when he did.
So the fact that the majority of the story revolved around him, his family, and attempting his "redemption" drug it down.
Even Toriyama figured it out, where most of DBZ is Vegeta getting literally shit on over and over until it feels like he has paid for his sins, making his defection seem justified, and a gradual increase in showing his personality having good parts to it, mostly revolving around his family.
Seriously. One of my favorite Shonens Seraph of the End has the vast majority of its fan base trying to ship to the 2 main dudes and are convinced they’re gay for each other despite the author being like. Haha not really
I've found turbo autists that identify with the Sasuke-archetype rival and constantly post cuck porn of them fucking the main character's love interest to be a close second.
What does fujo mean?
It's a term for a female pervert who fetishizes gay men.
It's short for "fujoshi," which literally means "rotten girl." It refers to a girl who's obsessed with shipping male characters together (or just watching homosexual men go at it).
Thanks! I’m learning little by little
Thanks!! I’m learning little by little all the terms
total tourist death
Only on book 5 so I don't know the whole story, but god damn that's a delusional take.
The story reads like it was written by a jaded man reliving their thirsty teenage days, but with loads of gore and influence from various horror mangaka. (I am enjoying reading it but the definitely pushes the boundaries for my eyes. I like most how the drawn lines vary based on the scene and mood)
Isn't the author a westaboo who told his readers they should watch more gay porn?
Either way, you don't want twittertards for an audience
I'm pretty sure that was just a case of him promoting the work of one of his underlings. It's less "go watch gay porn" and more "hey, the guy who helps shade the backgrounds made something and you should go check it out".
That's just my recollection though. Someone else probably has more details.
So far the only grossly political thing I've noticed in the story was right at the beginning of the Gun Demon arc, with the whole backstory on the appearance of gun demons. It was hard to figure exactly what the author's intentions were, but it read like some anti-second amendment fantasy tripe. That's the only "Westaboo" thing I could gleam so far.
I separate art from artist, so I don't really pay attention to what writers/artists say about their personal feelings and beliefs. But the above was the only time I thought the author was soapboxing.
Well it would have been really awkward to pivot to the world's most feared boogeyman being the 99.9% Survival Rate Disease Demon in light of world events since the series' start.
Honestly, it feels less like that was him trying to be political and more him trying to pick something universally feared that could still be "banned" by the world as a terrified preventative measure. Like, you can't ban Darkness, or Sharks, or Knives even.
I understand that, it's just the details as to why it built up (media sensationalism, increasing violence) felt like it was a little political. Maybe I was reading into it too much.
I get what you are saying. I just think it was more just coincidental, and us being Americans where such narratives are common, then intentional.
Else he would have leaned a lot harder into it, and cut the throwaway line about "people still got guns they are easy to make, it didn't work." Which is basically the entire pro-2A argument anyway.
When I watched CSM with some people we started guessing what thinly veiled metaphor the Gun Devil was. We guessed gun control and nukes (it is Japan and the event killed lots of people). Netflix was involved IIRC so we naturally assumed they'd want some message.
Oh wow, my mind completely forgot about the connection between "mass death in a few seconds" and that. It adds a lot more sense to the reasoning.
That is the correct classification. Anyone who isnt' a full on weeb can be safely dismissed as a normie with normie opinions. It's not like these people have gone deep enough into anime to watch shows about a parrot headed demon who eats mysteries. They are uncultured filth.
Honestly, even back when this reference was relevant it was filtering people.
Because it has the nerve to feature the Female MC as the abused and bullied slapstick magnet, something that still is basically unheard of.
Wait you mean it's not SHOwN for womEN? And all these years I thought it was. Wow.
Anime/japan will and is already falling to woke. Little by little. They will just inact social law and push more brainwashing. Since japanese are law abidding, there wont be much hard resistance against woke that is passed by government.
What in the fuck is an anime tourist?
I think "tourist" is the new "poser" for the younger generations.
Basically revolves around the concept of X thing being around for a long time, then some rando that just started some surface-level engagement with said thing and misremembers or misinterprets canon established years ago acts like their opinion is more important than long time fans of said thing.
A 'tourist' is typically people who just consumed some content related to a thing that recently went mainstream, then tweeted an essentially invalid opinion about it.
It can be about any franchise, media, sport, or whatever else. Like everyone pretending their takes on boxing are valid on Twitter because they watched Logan Paul in one fight, with no engagement with the sport beforehand.
Or like the other guy said: "Poser for the younger generations".
Ah yes, I agree with the term poser then. Tosser also applies to this. My first anime was dragon ball (note the lack of a Z) and I've been watching anime and reading magna since, more than any western serialization. Berserk and vampire hunter D FTW.