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Finnish president: Finland regrets imposing sanctions on Russia and joining NATO. Sanctions have not affected Russia at all and has only caused thousands of unemployed Finns, massive inflation, and losses of tax revenues worth of 100s of millions. (media.communities.win)
posted 2 years ago by Chukna 2 years ago by Chukna +54 / -0
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– SoctaticMethod1 33 points 2 years ago +33 / -0

The West has no cards to play with coercing Russia to negotiate thanks to sanctions, sure their economy isn't as big as it could be but it isn't dependent on the west. Meanwhile on the flip side the west, primarily Europe, is suffering economic and social stability issues as a result but that's combining with EVERY other issue that's causing instability (migrants, child abuser parades, disenfranchisement of farmers etc)

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– deleted 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0
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– Ender910 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

They're also still trading with a few other Asian manufacturing sectors like Singapore afaik. Basically neutral parties who may be loosely aligned with NATO who really aren't going to lose anything by continuing to trade with Russa.

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– deleted 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0
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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Nobody wants to move to Belarus tho.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– Ender910 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Funny how a self-sustainable economy is often much more robust that one that depends almost solely on outsourced manufacturing and goods.

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– SoctaticMethod1 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

One of the reasons Trump was able to swing his dick so much during his presidency in terms of foreign policy. America being energy independent was MASSIVE leverage to get what he wanted.

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– deleted 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0
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– Gizortnik 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

How bad is Keynesianism? I like to make this comparison.

In World War 2, the US Army Air Corp's bombardment of the Japanese home islands destroyed 85% of the entire country. Curtis LeMay was one of our primary serial killers. He murdered 100,000 people in a single raid. Somewhere around 4% of the population was killed in the war.

The birthrate for Japan in 1947, while whole swathes of the country were in total ruin, was 4.5.

The current birthrate is 1.3. It's probably the lowest birthrate that Japan has ever seen in the history of it's civilization.

People think that de-population is usually related to war and violence, normally it's an innuendo for genocide.

Yet the depopultion of Japan is taking place without a shot being fired. Without a single bomb being dropped. Without a single home being burned. Without any of the atrocities of war, the Japanese have been so badly mauled that mothers will not produce children, that 40% of men under the age of 35 are virgins, that people die alone in their apartments not being found for weeks or months.

Keynsianism is a weapon that has so ravaged Japan it has got them to kill themselves, rather than having to fire-bomb them.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

No economy is self-sustainable; but no economy should be entirely economically dependent on a handful of sectors.

Autarkey is impossible. But compartmentalization is a horrific idea.

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– Ender910 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

True, that's probably a better way to explain the pitfalls of how we've seen things play out.

Like yes, obviously there are occasions where you really can only get your best materials or resources from a handful of accessible regions, but you should always try to maintain a usable and healthy supply from other sources if it's both possible and feasible.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah, totally agree. Especially what I would consider strategic resources: food, water, energy, munitions, finance.

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– MLGS 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Russia's economy is weak on paper for the same reason red states have smaller numbers than coastal blue states: you can make the money number a lot higher by doing financial tricks and emailing spreadsheets than you can by actually producing tangible physical products.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The west is playing as China requires them. We are killing ourselves, and making Russia economically dependent upon China; weakening our position while China secures itself.

The only country winning the war in Ukraine is China.

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– SoctaticMethod1 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I don't doubt China is playing behind the scenes to weaken their rivals, but China has so many internal problems THEIR days are numbered.

I'll be completely honest here, I think there isn't going to be another global hegemony like we've had for centuries. Right now it seems everyone has their 'plans' of how they'll be the power brokers and lead the world but this seems to just drain the resources and stability of a country faster.

Trump seemed to make America more powerful by withdrawing a lot of that a redistributing it back into America. Every country trying to be more internationally have left their foundations to rot and in a few years we are going to see quite a lot of places crumble.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I agree that we'll have a multi-polar world, rather than a hegemon; but I think China's internal problems are one of the reason they are pushing hard on how to weaken us.

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– SoctaticMethod1 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Pretty much, weaken its competition enough that when they collapse they don't have to worry about foreigners taking advantage and can try to rebuild.

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– deleted 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0
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– simian 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Because. Fences. Don’t. Work.

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– MassivePecorino 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Uh, uh, oh, if you uh, build a thirty foot fence, somebody will come along with a thirty-one foot ladder! -Guy who bought a mansion and immediately built a wall around it.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Name one fence that has ever stopped anyone ever. Go ahead. I'll wait.

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– deleted 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0
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– simian 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

What if they virtue signal harder?

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– Kienan 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

I'm not a fan of Russia's actions (but also fuck Ukraine, the country), but I certainly admire Russia's don't-give-a-fuck attitude.

I wish the West hadn't become so corrupted; I like the stated ideals much better, but we're currently an absolute plague, and I'm glad some countries are finally standing up and making us look so impotent. I'd rather bounce back and rediscover our ideals and patriotism, but if we can't, dismantle the whole corrupt thing, and at least crush the globalist elements.

Sadly, I think the West is (at least at the moment) "too big to fail." It's always the little people that suffer. The West has (again, at least for now) "infinite" money, and can just keep throwing it against Russia, and it will be the citizens that suffer via inflation and taxes, not the policy makers who are being psychotic. The West can be as retarded as they want, and it will take a while to crumble, while they fuck us all in the meantime.

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– Slav4U 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Raising housing prices have exactly nothing to do with sanctions.

You know what does raise housing prices? Russians fleeing to Finland.

The fence likely upsets you because it's one more barrier as you flee St Petersburg, which is understandably upsetting and I hope you make it out with your family. I for one am jealous they even get a fence.

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– Happygo 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

What?

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– Slav4U 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

OP is actually posting from Russia. That headline is written in Russian, not Finnish. It's from a Russian propaganda source poorly translated to English.

Further, housing prices are controlled by demand, which has gone up because the number of Russians crossing into Finland. I know a few there myself.

This is obvious FUD.

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– woxter 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yes look at his profile, all he has posted during the last months is anti-Finland/Nato fake news in multiple threads, he went as far as posting that the EU offers citizenship in exchange for fighting in Ukraine, downvoted all of his threads.

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– Rezlung 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Fear. Uncertainty. Dilate.

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– NoEyesNoGroin 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Title's not what that says you lying lowlife.

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– Slav4U 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Literal Russian headline from unnamed source. Lol

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– elleand202 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Yeah, my guess is that its a pro-Russia twitter account quoting a Russian state media article.

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– GamingTheSystem-01 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

OP is literally a russian bot. Nothing but anti-finland stories since ever since they moved to join nato. No one could possibly give this much of a fuck about Finland unless they were being paid.

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– elleand202 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Classic Chunky post. Screenshot of a twitter comment on a Russian language article, carefully cropped so that you cannot see the source of the tweet or the article. Probably a pro-Russia twitter account quoting a Russian state media article.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Finland hasn't joined NATO. They were just pushing for it.

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– woxter 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Who is the idiot who upvotes a screenshot of Russian propaganda with no source not even a date?

**These are the real news:

PM: Finland supports tougher sanctions on Russia**

Prime Minister Sanna Marin (SDP) on Saturday said all western companies must leave Russia.

https://yle.fi/a/3-12398230

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Post Reported for: Rule 12 - Falsehoods

Post Removed: Rule 12 - Falsehoods

OP, it seems like you are intentionally hiding information, and or intentionally mistranslating. I'm going to need you to post your source, rather than a screenshot from now on.

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– TomSeeSaw 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Regime change in Finland is imminent.

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