Lolbertarian Party drops by to remind you it still sucks
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I heard it got better after the Mises take over, but it still looks like pro-globohomo dog shit to me.
Mises Caucus is separate from all these official parties. It's gonna take time to properly weed them out
NH is actually a special case. Mises took it over and threw out the corrupt people, and then Free Staters weren't happy with Mises trying to get them to go along with the national Mises program, so the Free Staters ousted a lot of the Mises people (along with people who had been both renouncing Mises). Internal party politics are weird.
LPNH is a special brand. They only care about setting NH up to secede from the union.
That said, the statements in this tweet are mostly factually true. Labor laws and immigration enforcement make it lucrative to hire illegals. It's just a question of whether you're celebrating that.
You can get sued by illegals. Lolberts cast the businesses that hire illegals as passive actors who merely respond to "zany" things the "out of control" government does. That's bullshit. The immigration laws are the way they are because the same businesses doing the hiring want them that way. They never tell you that part.
They can sue you. However, the kind of illegals who get hired for under minimum wage are generally keen to avoid courts.
We're still working on getting people to shut up about ideal world border management (aka private property rights) while we still have welfare states, economic regulation, and business capture of government. It's a work in progress.
What do you mean by this? Borders are a matter of national sovereignty.
I oppose state sovereignty on principle, so the only borders I consider legitimate are the borders of private property, and any aggregations of them which are made by mutually consensual contract.
But that's off in idealism world, nowhere close to the state of affairs in society today.
That's globohomo shit.
If you and your neighbors all sign a covenant together never to allow non-Christians or non-Anglos to buy land in your community, my philosophy has no problem. The US government, however, will happily dump 10,000 Haitian refugees in the middle of the town square and arrest you for trying to kick them out.
Which is the Globohomo?
Nations are peoples. States are expressions of monopolistic force used on behalf of their people. (realistically often against them) Sovereignty is the recognition of that authority by other people, nations, or states. Nations have various customs, flags, and creeds, but the only legitimate purpose of the State is to secure the private property and lives of its people. If the individual right to life and property is not seen as immutable and respected above all else, the state could arbitrarily redefine those things and decide to not protect unfavored citizens' rights, in which case it serves no legitimate purpose. Libertarian thought tends to cut off where "collective rights" end and "individual rights" begin, but there's a spectrum between those want to maintain sovereign nation states more-or-less as they are today only with more voluntary participation, and those that believe the only borders anywhere should be private property borders. The latter viewpoint is generally seen as an ideal, but not practical. In either case national sovereignty ultimately serves personal sovereignty, even where individuals are blood and honor-bound to nations.
(he did say "ideal", so I assume you're asking him about the theoretical framework and not geopolitical reality where tyranny reigns)
WTF is this nonsense? You don't get to kiddie porn in your house just because you own it. You don't get to let illegals poor into the country just because you own property on the border.
That's globohomo, abolition of nations shit.
What do you expect? Their sole purpose is to help their butt buddies in the DNC steal elections.
Who the hell are they trying to appeal to with that pro illegal-immigration/pro labor-exploitation combo?
The Chamber of Commerce
Plenty of RINOs have their heads between the CoC's ass cheeks as well. The classic tell is when they use being "pro-business" as an excuse to bend over for the left on social issues.
Not sure why but this made me LMAO. The image, I guess.
Sad part is, this is - apparently - one of the most "based" groups of the Libertarians. Not very familiar with them personally, but I'd mostly heard good things. And, I think for the most part, they've been doing good work in NH.
But, yeah, this tweet sucks. A lot.
They're even probably more than half right, but then reach a retarded conclusion.
They are entirely right, that's why the corporations and illegals do it: both benefit.
The point is to a) criminalize the corporations participating, b) deport the illegals coming in, and c) lower taxes and restrictions on domestic labor.
At least they'll siphon fewer right wing votes with this nonsense.
They're 5th columnist LARPers who deserve helicopter rides.
why the fuck does an illegal have ANY rights at all?
Illegal immigrants need to have some rights, or else it's too easy for a human trafficker to pass off an unwilling kidnapping victim as a willing illegal immigrant.
Different "levels" of Rights. They have Human Rights, which should be sensible and basic. They shouldn't have Citizens Rights.
Because we're failing to shoot them at the border.
I always think of the freaky looking toaster guy: https://youtu.be/ZITP93pqtdQ
Man those community notes spare no one. Love it!
This actually seems like a bit of satire, to be honest.
Hiring illegals is, actually, a win-win for corporations. That is why they do it. Which is also why you have to stop them from doing it.
The win for the illegal is that he gets money to send back remittances.
Hence, it's a win-win.
You should stop illegal immigration because of literally all those reasons. The better solution is to bring up criminal charges against the employer (which almost never happens), and to loosen regulations against domestic labor, including cutting payroll tax.
We should be taxing remittances as well.
Eh. I feel like Remittances could be a larger negotiation with foreign states. Like trading aid for remittances. If you get tons of remittances, you don't get foreign aid.
There is nothing you could do to stop corporations from doing anything that libertarians wouldn't condemn as some sort of government overreach, communism, socialism, etc.
Assassin47 is correct. Corporations are legal fictions that shouldn't exist.
Sole Proprietorships or GTFO.
Eliminate corporations. - signed small L libertarian
Is this the post I think it is?
https://nitter.1d4.us/LPNH/status/1655918655392083974
It sure is. Is it not a joke?
It seems like satire to me.
This tweet got hit with community notes, I wish people could see it from here, I submitted a suggestion in c/Meta to add that ability
https://communities.win/c/Meta/p/16b6DcJHS5/include-community-notes-in-tweet/c
I would have more respect for them if they advocated for slavery.
Still a statement of fact though.
I'm guessing everyone who agrees with it thinks the "and often work harder" part doesn't apply to them. :D
They aren’t wrong - they can’t easily sue you
"Illegals are covered under labour law" has the exact same energy as "You can't bring guns into a gun-free zone". Smoothest of smoothbrain Notes.
The illegals will be more afraid of deportation than the company will be of them going to court, so nobody will report it. Laws can't be enforced on crimes the authorities aren't aware of.