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What are your thoughts on this whole situation with the Dutch farmers? (twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by SuurSuomi39_II 3 years ago by SuurSuomi39_II +55 / -0
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– SuurSuomi39_II [S] 51 points 3 years ago +51 / -0

The state deeming the farmers the enemies of the state reminds me of these historical events that didn't happen and didn't cause a famine that didn't kill millions of slavs and chinese.

Greta and other climate grifters are oddly quiet on this one as to be expected, I am guessing they have been instructed to remain quiet by their higher ups because the farmer protest seem to have an overwhelming support from everyone.

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– send_it 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

Those burgeois swine!

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– Benevolentdictator 38 points 3 years ago +38 / -0

I'm impressed with the Dutch farmers' steadfast resolve to play the long game.

I was/am very supportive of the analogous Canadian truckers, but they pulled up stakes, gave up and went back to angsty tweeting after Trudeau got rough.

It's been a year and most of the stuff the Canadians protested are still an issue, but everyone is content to just bitch about it online and hope Trudeau goes away.

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– RaceCreatesCulture 28 points 3 years ago +28 / -0

I think Canadians were just really unprepared for a real fight. As soon as Trudeau started going for bank accounts people were like uhhh wtf.

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– Arkana 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

It helps that the Netherlands is a relatively small country, compared to Canada which is very spread out. Some truckers were only prepared to take a few weeks off, not risking their lives doing it. Whereas with the Dutch, I believe there is much more local community driving things forwards.

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– aquila_calvitium 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Most truckers in Europe are owner operators, same with farmers, lot's of small farms and very few big centralized actors overall. Small independent actors can fight as long as they have the people's support.

Banking is also way more decentralized in Europe thanks to individual countries, with Switzerland, Norway and UK now being outside of the union with their own currencies. All compatible within the union. It's incredibly hard to simply ban something within just one country as all they have to do is to move their stuff to nearest foreign country.

More support for cryptocurrency and barter, as people are generally poorer and more aware of the risks of centralization watching EU grow like cancer every day. Once you get kicked out of society you're not fucked, the black market is incredibly big. Plus that EU's own scheme with illegal immigration has contributed a lot to the black market too with illegals living in parallel societies.

The problem in Canada i it's centralization, and overall people's general trust in their government. Nobody bothered to protest once everything was centralized, it was "just capitalism" plain and simple.

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– OldBullLee 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

More support for cryptocurrency and barter, as people are generally poorer and more aware of the risks of centralization watching EU grow like cancer every day.

ND and a few other states here in the US are angling for a "centralized" cryptocurrency. Just heard about this yesterday: https://archive.ph/SPpzF

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– aquila_calvitium 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yea, CBDC will act as a back-end for the banks, replacing SWIFT which is slow, unstable and prone to failures with money mysteriously disappearing with no trace. Tho CBDC will most likely be a smart contract, i.e everything will be put in the same wallet.

With actual cryptocurrency each individual have their own wallet, privacy and full control over their holdings. They will never allow that. And to stop people from using real cryptocurrency they will continue to fuck around with market manipulation, spread a lot of fud, and trick people with "convenience" and "safety" promising that if you lose your life saving you can get it back. You just have to sell your soul to the devil. And people will fall for that.

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– Gizortnik 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

The Canadians Truckers were basically center-left normies. They have no idea that they would be met with a level of open hostility and violence that they were hit with. The logic was that you protest the government to show your grievance, and they respond. In this case: the government was going to impose mass injections on all truckers regardless of medical or religious objection, and that internal checkpoints would be set up across every province to check status, which would be monitored by digital surveillance. It was an act so pathologically insane and aggressive that the normies jumped up and said: "We should definitely be annoying as fuck about this!"

The government's response was: "Kill yourself. You deserve death. You will be granted nothing in all cases. We will hunt your families. We will break you."

Which, no normie expects everyone to suddenly turn to them and say when they have such a legitimate grievance. They didn't expect every politician, every media outlet, every doctor, every cop, every bureaucrat, every union leader, every pundit, every newspaper, every teacher, every nurse, every academician, to simultaneously respond: "Kill yourself, or we'll do it for you."

The normies discovered the Friend-Enemy Distinction; unaware that although Liberalism is Universalist, Leftists wear Liberalism as a skinsuit to point out that dissent removes you from the moral universe, and thus you are no longer part of moral consideration when they attack you.

All that being said, the Canadian Truckers did push the government to start rolling back most of it's Covid policies, which it never would have done without the protest. The Globalist Vassal State of Canada did suffer a defeat; but the Canadian Truckers have no idea what victory looks like in a protracted war.

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– WeedleTLiar 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

The government has literally pulled every measure...

Last February we couldn't leave the country without a vax passport, stores forced people to wear masks in order to shop, and businesses and government orgs required the jab for people to work. All of that is gone now.

In fact, health agencies are quietly pulling even the recommendations to get the vax in the first place and public health officials are backpedalling amd saying they never told businesses to fire anyone.

If not for the truckers, we would be in the same situation we were in this time last year.

The bigger problem thay they exposed is that we effectively have no binding Constitution; the government can literally make any law they feel like.

That's a much bigger problem but you can't expect the Truckers to do everything; they're not professional activists, they're truckers and someone has to keep people fed.

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– ghostfox1_ 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The bigger problem thay they exposed is that we effectively have no binding Constitution; the government can literally make any law they feel like.

Yeah, because the canadian charter literally says "all this is really important, but we can just tell you to fuck off when we want to and there's nothing you can do about it"

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– alucard13mmfmj 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Seems peaceful protests dont work on our side and optics are never on our side either. As soon as one farmer flashes a gun, it will become an insurrection or terrorism instead of "mostly peaceful protests".

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– censorthisss 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

True, but since when has an actual weapon been needed for them to deem a protest a violent insurrection?

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– Filo76 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

They are clearing out the farmers to make way for more diversity. The globalists are suiciding their own countries. But as long as they retain power, they don’t care.

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– nuggetpatrol 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

They are, or were one of the top 10 countries exporting food.

You'll notice that a lot of these countries that have this dumb idea manifesting inside that a bunch of other top exporter countries are tied up in some way, making food more expensive for everyone.

They might not know how to run things, but they sure as hell know how to ruin things.

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– Ricky_CIA 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Ruining things is the commie way.

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– RandomFurryDude 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I wish them the best, but non-violent protests all end the same way. Crushed.

Pray tell how do you non-violently deal with people who want to perform violence on you? Ever tried chatting down a mugger into leaving you peacefully? Good luck with that.

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– WeedleTLiar 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

These farmers have nothing to lose because they'll lose everything either way.

Don't count on things staying peaceful.

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– Ricky_CIA 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I hear you can do neat things with plant food and a little diesel fuel.

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0
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– dnile1000bc 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

It's too little too late. The time to act was when feminist principles were first introduced into their schools and laws decades ago. Now, protest or not, their country will burn just like Sri Lanka, South Africa and other climate hysterical failures.

I'm willing to bet most of these people voted for the current regime that introduced these laws today.

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– Hugs 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

My thoughts:

Government bad, farmers necessary.

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– realerfunction 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

i think they should start taking heads.

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– AccountWasFree 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It's a good start, but it will never come to the west considering how many here believe themselves above such tasks thanks to the excess of luxury and convenience that keep them utterly complacent in their day to day lives.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Farmers rebelling against Food Control policies that weaken the nation, make the economy dependent, and prevent the balkanization and urbanization of the country.

It's absolutely a good idea, and they should keep fighting.

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– OmegaBird 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The Dutch farmers are fighting the good fight. They need to escalate and make the government cower and take the knee for real.

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– Ricky_CIA 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Globalist commie faggots are trying to destroy their national independence by going after domestic food suppliers.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– Ricky_CIA 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yep, eventually the government will fake a "violent farmer" reaction and use it as an excuse to drop the hammer.

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