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Check your privelege (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules +36 / -0
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– simian 37 points 3 years ago +37 / -0

This actually does explain a lot. You know how teenagers, mindless, melodramatic pieces of shit that they are, tend to over exaggerate their problems and then suffer mental turmoil due to those exaggerations? Well "you're speaking from a place of privilege" is the formalized version of "GAWD, MOM! YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE." Just a little less histrionic. Alternatively, while it's not a judgment of how difficult your life has been, it is an admission that the person doesn't value an outsider's perspective (which in almost any other occasion is a valuable thing, consultants make good money providing those) because it's not enforcing their worldview and will thus be dismissed.

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– simian 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

A personal anecdote (sorry for blogging) dating back to before "place of privilege" was a thing: A (gay) friend was beside himself (on Facebook) about the recent closure of a local LGBT publication. He insisted it was horrible and hurtful to the LGBT community to lose such an irreplaceable institution. I told him "no institution is irreplaceable" and made the mistake of hoping he could fill in the blanks. As a result I got scolded for being straight and not understanding the situation. Then a queer friend of his suggested they look into putting together a zine and working from there. He was open to the idea. Because, hey, I was an outsider, and so me insinuating he fix the problem himself was bigoted while someone in the same community doing the same (although being more direct) is helpful.

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– Smith1980 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

You offered a solution which doesn’t help their cause. My friend’s girlfriend once complained that the schools didn’t teach enough Mexican American history. I told her she could go to the library and research and then post on facebook about different people. She thanked me as if I said something brilliant but I’m just a dude of average intelligence at best and that just seemed a logical solution

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– FuckGenderPolitics 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I’m just a dude of average intelligence at best

Nah dude, based on the discussion we had about math the other day you're in the top 30%. If you weren't algebra let alone trig and calculus would have been impossible for you. I think you underestimate just how stupid someone with "average intelligence" is.

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– Smith1980 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Greatly appreciated. Same to you.

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– ghostfox1_ 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I think most people who are above average don't interact with people who are below average/average on a day to day basis.

I do, unfortunately, and it hurts.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Far too many people (to ape the topic) "speak from a position of privilege" about intellect.

Saying "they have a 2-digit IQ" is tantamount to saying someone is clinically retarded in many circles... But ~50% of the population has a 2-digit IQ. It is averaged on 100, as a function. Considering the above-mean-intelligence tend to be insular or extremely successful, compared to the below-mean-intelligence, chances are the majority of people you encounter on the street, in public areas, etc, are 2-digit-IQ unless you live in a particularly intelligent spot.

EDIT: But if you're selecting for a social group, even an online social group, chances are you'll long-term lean towards one of similar intelligence to your own (either shifting communities, or raising/lowering your own thinking to match theirs). So in a way, complimenting others here on their smarts is a bit of self-bolstering.

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– deleted 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0
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– FuckGenderPolitics 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

People of above average intelligence tend to congregate together. That tendency is so strong that the situation that the average and below find themselves in is often beyond the imagination of the top 30%. That's part of the reason why the education debate goes nowhere (the other part is the refusal of our elites to acknowledge uncomfortable facts). It's simply incomprehensible to them that some people will never understand certain concepts no matter how hard they try.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– Smith1980 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Exactly. I remember as a teen whining about how hard my life is and my dad laughed and said I had no idea what a tough life was. Looking back he was 100% correct.

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– deleted 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0
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– GhostBond 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which the abuser attempts to sow self-doubt and confusion in their victim's mind. Typically, gaslighters are seeking to gain power and control over the other person, by distorting reality and forcing them to question their own judgment and intuition.

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– Smith1980 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

Problem is that the people who lecture about “checking privilege” are pretty well off. Best example are black teens or young adults who can’t shut up about slavery/Jim crow/oppression. They become livid when you point out that they never experienced the things they talk about and also they almost always come from a wealthy or middle class upbringing at the least. The lecturing about privilege crosses all races and yet they never give up their “privilege”. Notice that the climate cult nuts never live like a 1700s farmer like they demand everyone else do

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– yvaN_ehT_nioJ 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

Notice that the climate cult nuts never live like a 1700s farmer like they demand everyone else do

Heck, I'd be more likely to listen to them if they tried that. Living like ye olden times farmers sounds pretty based, just look at the Amish.

However, they aren't demanding it, they're demanding more and more state and technological authority to "solve" the "climate crisis" for them.

The cranks and crazies of the 1960s were just that but one thing they have over the present day climate people is they at least tried to live off the grid

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– Smith1980 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

And what annoys me is that they refuse to consider nuclear power

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– realerfunction 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

can't politically ration energy when it's cheap and abundant.

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– Smith1980 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Agreed. But that should expose them for the frauds they are.

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– BulbasaurusThe7th 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

Then again, I have been told to check my privilege when I HAVE experienced the thing we were discussing, simply because my opinion and ways of dealing with it were different.
One thing is mental health. Yes, I have had really awful fucking times. Typical leftoids just say you should take happy pills and live essentially like a disabled person. If I did that, I would have never gotten better. They rage when I say that, when I say things like doing something creative and actually pushing myself helped, instead of just "uwu, I remembered to drink water today, so I did everything I can be expected to do".

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It's really weird. In Japan, if you are diagnosed with something like depression, they expect you to have it your entire life. You have to live in the pod, take your drugs, and eat the bugs or you don't get taken care of. If you tried to do something else, the society itself would chew you out. A friend went through that, and it was bizarre.

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– acp_k2win 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

gay commies lie with every word

pronounce a moral judgement, claim it isn't a moral judgement when you rightly react to unfounded accusations, pronounce further moral judgement on your reaction

remember never try to prove the idea wrong because they just shift the goalposts and motte and bailey the concept and they don't believe in dialogue anyway

just go straight to attacking the character of the person who brought it up, put them under a microscope, keep the focus on them

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– SomeRando 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

And I owe you something because? <- this is the only necessary response across all venues of "privilege".

I can be "speaking from a place of privilege" to a person who is capable of drowning themselves in a puddle for all I know. But you know what? I could solve the very phenomena of "privilege" in two words - fuck off. Yes, it is exactly that simple but they won't because they know they would gain nothing from posturing over and micro-managing each other, which is exactly what this is. It is nothing more than spiteful posturing over a people with a better system of living under every single circumstance, every single walk of life and it is demonstrably earned, even with all of the compensatory handicaps that give leverage to the rest.

It seems as if almost every system that has ever existed prefers common sense and the healthy family unit, which exists independent of any disparity and is not exclusively white. Rest is just fucking pattern recognition. Ever try planning ahead? Thinking outside yourself and of your generations? Not wantonly beating the shit out of your kids? Holding the family unit together instead of being a runaway father? Being a good representative of your family and by extension your race? I withold NONE of these from you. Unless you can propose a system that prefers the opposite the ball simply is not in my court. This is why they hate Asians too, they reap the benefits of not being an overindulgent retards from generation to generation.

Multiculturalism is a failed experiment and I am superior or you would want nothing of me. Go ahead, suggest that whites go off and live among their own, these assholes will screech "NO!" but they will never come up with a good reason for why. You have created an entire industry of useless bureaucracy around stealing off my plate and it just never seems like enough. For the spiteful, nothing is ever enough.

Call it what it is. Spite.

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– nuggetpatrol 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I get what they were going for, but the lack of empathy is on full display. It just tells me that the person who told me this, their value system does not rely on truth, merely validation.

If they do not care about how things have impacted my life, implied privilege or not, why would I care about theirs?

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– GeneralBoobs 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The only reasonable response to someone telling you to check your privilege or any variation there of is to tell them to climb into a pizza oven.

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– deleted 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0
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– IamM 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I once licked a fire hydrant in florida. Next question!

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– HallucinatoryBeing 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

That's nothing. I once peeled an orange in a California hotel.

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– simian 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Is that really an evil act?

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– IamM 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It's technically a felony in florida.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

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