Look, I know what he's doing isn't what we want, but considering at least he's freeing a few political prisoners, and there's probably more to come, I don't know man.
He needs to stop trying to accept the center position on this. The leftists are already fleeing to mastodon - he will never get those retards back and we don't want them back.
That was only one of the things they did. Many people were outright suspended until they deleted jokes deemed as hate speech. If that doesn't change and Trump and others remain banned, then it is the same policy.
It's absolutely terrible, but it's not the exact same thing as before.
E.g. if you follow Jordan Peterson, that is apparently 'seeking it out'.
Also, I'm pretty sure that Musk has a different view of what is 'hate' and 'negative'. There may be more consistency, and some of their sacred cows may not fall under it.
The only logic I see is that Twitter's whole purpose is people complaining and whining about stuff. He sure is giving people from all sides stuff to whine about.
Anyone could have anticipated his middling stance, which is 'bout as good as he was going to do. I guess he wants Twitter alive. There is a seed in all this however that I hope grows over the coming years, and so long as people like him piss a little trickle every now and again it'll grow.
The long and short term are things we ought to keep an eye on and strive to grasp control over. If unironic piss-play furfags and transexuals can do it, so can you.
It depends on how it is used so I need clarification on how 'negative/hate tweets' is defined
If it's people saying kill yourself, threatening to dox you or family members even kids, that makes me VERY happy as that just kicks most of the left right in the girly balls.
If it's how the media and governments define 'hate speech', then we have a problem so like everything it's a wait and see as the purge still gives me hope it's the former.
Maybe it's just a case of having to boil the frog in the other direction because they'd immediately destroy him if he went too far on the good side too fast, maybe he really is just politically a Reddit brained centrist libertarian. Who the hell knows?
I don't like it at all. More people's need to tell him that doing these concessions will not make the leftists happy.
This is better than outright being banned since I think Elon believes you should only get banned if you do something that is actually criminal, but it's still a shitty way to deal with
Concretely, this certainly means that Twitter is going to manipulate Trending. Probably also ranking in search. Twitter is headed the route of insidious mind manipulation where people aren't even fully aware of being manipulated.
I think it is best to do now what we should have done years ago:
Build up alternative communications platforms
Bring others away from main-stream social media (MSSM) to there
"We invented this algorithm that can understand people's messages and, based on the contents of what it says, will select where to place it within your vision."
So...the same policy as before in a slightly lighter version?
People push an agenda to manipulate your kids into castrating themselves openly, but if you say how evil they are that will get buried?
So if we agree to put all the (ethic group) in wonderful free mandatory camps with free gas showers and lots of exercise digging, that's good? I guess?
If he pulled a gab, he would get the gab treatment - nuked off the app store, governments retaliating, etc. You're expecting him to banzai charge the enemy like it's fucking Shiroyama, and like Shiroyama, it'd be a senseless waste.
We need to adopt the mindset that leftists used in their long march through the institutions: if you can’t capture something, destroying it is an acceptable alternative.
Who defines hate? Saying that men don’t get pregnant I’d hate speech to some
What a bitch. Trump didn't break any laws, let alone any Twitter rules.
The fact that Elon is still waffling on this while he talks about protecting free speech is pathetic.
Look, I know what he's doing isn't what we want, but considering at least he's freeing a few political prisoners, and there's probably more to come, I don't know man.
He needs to stop trying to accept the center position on this. The leftists are already fleeing to mastodon - he will never get those retards back and we don't want them back.
That was only one of the things they did. Many people were outright suspended until they deleted jokes deemed as hate speech. If that doesn't change and Trump and others remain banned, then it is the same policy.
He will not deboost accounts, just that specific tweet. Check that thread you just linked.
Oh ok I misunderstood.
Elon clarified it's only individual tweets. It's still censorship, but instead of cutting off your legs he's just cutting off one leg lol
It's absolutely terrible, but it's not the exact same thing as before.
E.g. if you follow Jordan Peterson, that is apparently 'seeking it out'.
Also, I'm pretty sure that Musk has a different view of what is 'hate' and 'negative'. There may be more consistency, and some of their sacred cows may not fall under it.
The only account that I follow that has the "Sensitive" warning before allowing you to access it is Anthony Cumia's.
This is a garbage policy and Elon is a midwit. There's no logic behind this.
CP is illegal. Pretty easy to shut that shit down.
The only logic I see is that Twitter's whole purpose is people complaining and whining about stuff. He sure is giving people from all sides stuff to whine about.
cue in in a few months:
then, it's done
of course you can say anything, but you wouldn't say anything that might get you in jail, amirite?!
Anyone could have anticipated his middling stance, which is 'bout as good as he was going to do. I guess he wants Twitter alive. There is a seed in all this however that I hope grows over the coming years, and so long as people like him piss a little trickle every now and again it'll grow.
The long and short term are things we ought to keep an eye on and strive to grasp control over. If unironic piss-play furfags and transexuals can do it, so can you.
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
It depends on how it is used so I need clarification on how 'negative/hate tweets' is defined
If it's people saying kill yourself, threatening to dox you or family members even kids, that makes me VERY happy as that just kicks most of the left right in the girly balls.
If it's how the media and governments define 'hate speech', then we have a problem so like everything it's a wait and see as the purge still gives me hope it's the former.
Maybe it's just a case of having to boil the frog in the other direction because they'd immediately destroy him if he went too far on the good side too fast, maybe he really is just politically a Reddit brained centrist libertarian. Who the hell knows?
I don't like it at all. More people's need to tell him that doing these concessions will not make the leftists happy.
This is better than outright being banned since I think Elon believes you should only get banned if you do something that is actually criminal, but it's still a shitty way to deal with
Concretely, this certainly means that Twitter is going to manipulate Trending. Probably also ranking in search. Twitter is headed the route of insidious mind manipulation where people aren't even fully aware of being manipulated.
I think it is best to do now what we should have done years ago:
The Twitter alternative most free by design is
ActivityPub federated microblogging
See also
How to use decentralized or distributed network communication
"We invented this algorithm that can understand people's messages and, based on the contents of what it says, will select where to place it within your vision."
Sweet! How do I configure it?
"It's for us to configure, not you."
Musk is the most wishy washy turd I've seen in a long, long time. Almost like a pathological liar.
So...the same policy as before in a slightly lighter version?
People push an agenda to manipulate your kids into castrating themselves openly, but if you say how evil they are that will get buried?
So if we agree to put all the (ethic group) in wonderful free mandatory camps with free gas showers and lots of exercise digging, that's good? I guess?
The best outcome remains the complete collapse of Twitter then.
This milquetoast pandering to play both sides isn’t going to work. He officially killed any ability to save twitter not going hard reset for everyone.
you can’t pander to both sides when one side wants a basic human freedom and the other side wants to deny the other side
good. Let it die.
If he pulled a gab, he would get the gab treatment - nuked off the app store, governments retaliating, etc. You're expecting him to banzai charge the enemy like it's fucking Shiroyama, and like Shiroyama, it'd be a senseless waste.
This a push in the right direction.
:(
He still needs to be careful about advertisers and credit card companies. I doubt Twitter will be as robust like, let's say, kiwi farms.
Until he puts it on Starlink.
Which is an improvement.
We need to adopt the mindset that leftists used in their long march through the institutions: if you can’t capture something, destroying it is an acceptable alternative.