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Roger Waters is banned from Poland for blaming the war on "the forces of extreme nationalism" ruling "the Ukraine" and "extreme nationalists both here in the West" (sic) (twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by SupremeReader 3 years ago by SupremeReader +46 / -0
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– Deceitful_Fox 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

What a bizzare take.

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– SupremeReader [S] 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Reading comments, I'm now commited to make Poland the country they see us:

Ah yes, good Poland. The beacon of human rights & liberty amirite? Don't you have some gays to beat up or women to force into pregnancies?

That's some real hardcore WH40K shit man, fucking metal:

Poland is not a country worth visiting. The Cristo fascist hellscape you made the place look like plains and mountains of misery.

It's the most Nazi thing to destroy G*rmany:

The Polish GOv only has act with infamous behaviour because you was thinking that in the meantime you can destroy GER in your benefit. You support NAZIS. The time will made you pay. Nazi. #UkraineRussiaWar

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– Galean 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

So gay marriage and abortion restrictions is mountains of misery. Wow this people have sheltered lives.

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I wish my life was so charmed and free of conflict that being told "no, you cannot kill a baby just because its life is slightly inconvenient to you" made me start hallucinating tradcath nazis everywhere. These people must have never been told "no" by anyone in their entire lives.

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– ParadoxSepi 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

It's like I was reading r/polska ("official" polish sub)

Every fkn upvoted message is shitting on their own country and jerking over canada/sweden/any other country with far leftists at the helm.

God forbid you have slightly different worldview...

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– bamboozler1 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

This seems to be the same in nearly every geographical subreddit, regardless of country, unfortunately...

It's a pretty widely seen phenom, I feel... And from experience, too, lol...

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– ParadoxSepi 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I'm beginning to think it is like this by design- remove mods that defy the narrative and leave everyone who supports the message to create the illusion that everyone supports certain worldview

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– bamboozler1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Narrator: "And lo and behold, ParadoxSepi was right"...

Yeah, I, uhh, frankly think you may be onto something there... Unfortunately enough.

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– Assassin47 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I'm beginning to think it is like this by design

By George I think he's got it...

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Any kind of allegiance to a nation or your people is antithetical to global governance. Reddit simply continues to be a mouthpiece for bringing about Dark Ages 2.0

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– TentElephant 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

If only every country could be as based as how they describe Poland.

Spez: I'm a moron.

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– bamboozler1 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I don't think those are Roger Waters' comments...

I mean, he is an idiot, but he wouldn't be that illiterate, writing online...

I imagine his fans might be, however, lol.

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– TentElephant 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Oops, I skipped over the part that said comments.

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– AntonioOfVenice 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Reading comments, I'm now commited to make Poland the country they see us:

Godspeed.

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– SupremeReader [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

https://youtu.be/b9vpTBIlUSw

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– CarmenOfSandiego 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The beatings berating will continue until morale acceptance improves.

It will also continue afterwards.

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– RoulerBleu 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Extreme nationalists ruling the West? Lmao.

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– SoctaticMethod1 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Bit of a weird take given that he seems to be spouting the usual leftist take (banning nationalism) than what's probably closer to the fact (global powers wanting a new endless war using Ukraine instead of Middle East).

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– bamboozler1 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Do you even Roger Waters, lol..?

Dude is a massive tankie. Always has been.

Like, he is a fucking idiot. I would be unironically entirely unsurprised if he merely likes current Russia because he sees it as some kind of "successor state" of the USSR. Genuinely...

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– SoctaticMethod1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I meant for the Polish, I'd have thought they'd ignore that noise by now than ban him since they probably hear it everyday from the EU alone...

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– bamboozler1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They might hear the "anti-nationalist" rhetoric from the EU, sure. But not the kind of crap Waters is spouting about Ukraine.

That is... Pretty out of line with anything the mainstream (outside, say, Fox News/John Pilger/Jordan Peterson) in most of the "Western" world would see as "reasonable discourse", lol.

Poland has been called out for various shit before this war started, sure, but now they're like... Basically the EU's buffer (along with the Baltics) - EU criticism has been notably muted ever since February. For obvious reasons.

As for banning Waters... Countries do this sort of shit all the time (I do believe Tyler the Creator was banned from Aus, at one point, for "inciting violence" or something...), including for political bollocks. It's just that this is a) the most prominent example, and b) obviously very topical...

I honestly think that if he had just shut up, instead of doubling down, they probably would have let it go ahead, lol. But frankly, I think they see it as "Why allow someone who is fiddling for the enemy to make money on our soil?", or some such, lol...

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– SoctaticMethod1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

True, didn't know this wasn't a first example and he doubled down, celebrities haven't meant much other than which ones might be child molesters.

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– bamboozler1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Oh, I promise you, this isn't his first time...

Look it up if you want. He is like... Totally off his rocker nuts, when it comes to politics. But I'm sure he would just consider it "old left", or some bullshit...

He's always been an arsehole (hence the band kicking him out). Now he's just a mean, bitter, successful arsehole.

See also: Morrissey and (unfortunately) Joni Mitchell, among others...

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– icockmyglock 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Reddit is an echo chamber for current globohomo policies. They don't like Waters because Waters is arguing against war....while reddit is pounding the war drums in a very black and white manner: Russia invaded Ukraine, therefore there must be war against Russia. I'd say Redditors are incapable of understanding exactly what they're advocating, but I won't because I don't believe it's organic at all.

You can see the anti-Waters sentiment even here.

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– MegoThor 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

So ya… thought ya… might like to… go to Poland

NO NO NO NO

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Radoslaw is a disgrace to the name Sikorski.

EDIT: Didn't I know it. This creature's wife is the psychotic neocon warmonger Anne Applebaum.

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– SupremeReader [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Anne being war-what? Radek had fought the Soviets in Afghanistan.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkrupSeXgAAa8l0.jpg

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

lol, so he's a literal collaborator of Osama bin Laden?

And I tried so hard to not call him a CIA asset.

Do you not know Anne Applebaum? The fact that he would marry a foreigner is treason enough. And she sure as hell did not convert to Catholicism. Here's some more fun from Anne:

“Conspiratorial disinformation reaches the highest court” link - archive.org - archive.today

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– bamboozler1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

You do say some stupid things sometimes...

Treason? You think that's treason..??

What are you, spokesperson for the Russian Duma or something..?

"Marrying a foreigner/not converting to Catholicism is treason"... Jesus fucking Christ, that's bad, even from you...

You have a go at Imp for saying dumb shit about stuff like this. This is just as bad frankly.

Edit: I just realised that you are also implying that fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan automatically makes you a fucking terrorist (not everyone who fought with the Mujahideen against the invaders became the Taliban, FFS) - this comment is... Hell, this may even be worse than some of the shit Imp spouts...

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Treason? You think that's treason..??

The guy was a foreign minister to Poland, and he's married to a foreigner. I am rather skeptical of such types. If you're attached to your own country, you'll marry one of your own. These people, however, are rootless cosmopolitans who feel no special kinship to their own people, so they can marry just about anyone.

What are you, spokesperson for the Russian Duma or something..?

What's Russia got to do with it? I'm sure many of them have or would have foreign brides if Russians weren't so good-looking.

"Marrying a foreigner/not converting to Catholicism is treason"... Jesus fucking Christ, that's bad,

Why though? Ancient Athens refused to grant citizenship to those who marry foreigners, as do many countries today, with Pericles being the most famous example.

even from you...

So what are the other dumb things?

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– bamboozler1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Russia is the only large, prominent, notable country that bans MPs from marrying foreigners.

This really is not as common as you may think, in the modern world.

Gee, I'm glad we've moved on from practices that were commonplace more than 2500 years ago....

Come on.

You can't even get your Russian propaganda correct. Russian men tend not to marry outside partly for that reason, but Russian women don't have this same issue. Russia has an extreme shortage of men, for various reasons (as does Ukraine, as do the Baltics), which will only be exacerbated by this war.

If it wasn't for the combination of a) brainwashing (admittedly not as bad as China), and b) that law banning MPs (not citizens, MPs) from marrying foreigners, I really, really don't think things would match up to your strange idealised "idea of reality"...

You say stupid shit all the time, and on this conflict you are unironically as bad as Imp. Which makes me wonder, frankly, just why you love sucking up to "Daddy Putin" quite so much...

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Russia is the only large, prominent, notable country that bans MPs from marrying foreigners.

How come you were aware of that? I was not even speaking of MPs specifically.

Gee, I'm glad we've moved on from practices that were commonplace more than 2500 years ago....

C'mon man, it was only 2450 years ago. Besides, what is old is not necessarily bad. The Athenians did not cut off the breasts of their young girls, but I'm not glad we've moved on from practices that were commonplace more than 2500 years ago....

You can't even get your Russian propaganda correct.

You're going off to the deep end again. But I know you mean well.

Russian men tend not to marry outside partly for that reason, but Russian women don't have this same issue.

Yeah, cause Russian men are absolutely hideous, at least when they're older than 25 or so. In their early 20s some of them are real dolls.

You say stupid shit all the time,

Yeah, you just said that, but you couldn't provide any example, and apparently still cannot.

and on this conflict you are unironically as bad as Imp.

All this means is that you have a different view than I do. A little more tolerance for your views of others may suit you. Do you think I regard your views on this conflict as intelligent or well thought through? Of course not, but I manage to not insult you over them anyway.

Which makes me wonder, frankly, just why you love sucking up to "Daddy Putin" quite so much...

This height of intellect was brought to you by the guy who just moments ago complained about other saying 'stupid shit all the time'.

But like I said: I know you mean well.

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– bamboozler1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It's 3am. I'm not responding to insults or condescension.

Your talking points are straight out of 2005 Russia, apparently: https://archive.ph/yihOT

https://archive.ph/cPBsj

On the shortage of local men, and some of the reasons why.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/08/14/why-the-former-ussr-has-far-fewer-men-than-women/

I'm not going to argue these points. Your opinions on this are fundamentally compromised.

It's rather telling that your opinions on this shit are not even shared by the majority of Russians, and would get you laughed out of the room in most serious discussions.

You're supporting a regime, and an ideology, that is going to break Russia, at the rate it is going.

Hell, this "partial mobilisation" shit has already resulted in a bunch of people being killed, including school children.

I personally wouldn't want to be associated with backing the ideology that not only caused that, but is currently attempting to send several hundred thousand very unwilling young men off to invade their neighbouring country, but you do you.

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– SupremeReader [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Nah, of Ismail Khan.

Reunion in Herat: https://i.iplsc.com/radoslaw-sikorski-w-heracie/00024UNQU9R4A3JI-C411-F4.jpg

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– bamboozler1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Toni is pretty compromised on this issue. You and I both know that.

This discussion is a waste of time...

As to why he is compromised... Well, I hate to imply that this isn't organic, but hey, let's just assume contrarianism for contrarianism's sake...

I do hope there is a backup of this shit somewhere, though, because we have reached the point, now, where there is no way that this ends well for Putin and his supporters... So how people here pivot in six months' time, I do not know (yes, even if he fucking nukes Ukraine, you contrarian retards)...

This place has always been an outlier on many things, but it has now reached the point of being more pro-Putin than the average Russian...

Which suggests to me that there is something... Not entirely organic going on.

Or people here are just that schizo and contrarian. Also possible, lol.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Nah, of Ismail Khan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGEIGprQwyo

Reunion in Herat: https://i.iplsc.com/radoslaw-sikorski-w-heracie/00024UNQU9R4A3JI-C411-F4.jpg

I'm amazed you are proud of fighting alongside Muslims.

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– SupremeReader [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I've given you various stories on the matter, so here's my candidate for our very own ~DIVERSE~ Disney princess, because this film looks like shit (also it's English Caucasus not "Caucus" - Polish Kaukaz): https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/fascinating-tale-of-muslim-princess-who-fought-for-poland-during-wwii-wins-short-film-award-27064

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– Decrixxx 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

poland's achille hill is russia.

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– deleted 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

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