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Roger Waters is banned from Poland for blaming the war on "the forces of extreme nationalism" ruling "the Ukraine" and "extreme nationalists both here in the West" (sic) (twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by SupremeReader 3 years ago by SupremeReader +46 / -0
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– bamboozler1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

You do say some stupid things sometimes...

Treason? You think that's treason..??

What are you, spokesperson for the Russian Duma or something..?

"Marrying a foreigner/not converting to Catholicism is treason"... Jesus fucking Christ, that's bad, even from you...

You have a go at Imp for saying dumb shit about stuff like this. This is just as bad frankly.

Edit: I just realised that you are also implying that fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan automatically makes you a fucking terrorist (not everyone who fought with the Mujahideen against the invaders became the Taliban, FFS) - this comment is... Hell, this may even be worse than some of the shit Imp spouts...

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Treason? You think that's treason..??

The guy was a foreign minister to Poland, and he's married to a foreigner. I am rather skeptical of such types. If you're attached to your own country, you'll marry one of your own. These people, however, are rootless cosmopolitans who feel no special kinship to their own people, so they can marry just about anyone.

What are you, spokesperson for the Russian Duma or something..?

What's Russia got to do with it? I'm sure many of them have or would have foreign brides if Russians weren't so good-looking.

"Marrying a foreigner/not converting to Catholicism is treason"... Jesus fucking Christ, that's bad,

Why though? Ancient Athens refused to grant citizenship to those who marry foreigners, as do many countries today, with Pericles being the most famous example.

even from you...

So what are the other dumb things?

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– bamboozler1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Russia is the only large, prominent, notable country that bans MPs from marrying foreigners.

This really is not as common as you may think, in the modern world.

Gee, I'm glad we've moved on from practices that were commonplace more than 2500 years ago....

Come on.

You can't even get your Russian propaganda correct. Russian men tend not to marry outside partly for that reason, but Russian women don't have this same issue. Russia has an extreme shortage of men, for various reasons (as does Ukraine, as do the Baltics), which will only be exacerbated by this war.

If it wasn't for the combination of a) brainwashing (admittedly not as bad as China), and b) that law banning MPs (not citizens, MPs) from marrying foreigners, I really, really don't think things would match up to your strange idealised "idea of reality"...

You say stupid shit all the time, and on this conflict you are unironically as bad as Imp. Which makes me wonder, frankly, just why you love sucking up to "Daddy Putin" quite so much...

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Russia is the only large, prominent, notable country that bans MPs from marrying foreigners.

How come you were aware of that? I was not even speaking of MPs specifically.

Gee, I'm glad we've moved on from practices that were commonplace more than 2500 years ago....

C'mon man, it was only 2450 years ago. Besides, what is old is not necessarily bad. The Athenians did not cut off the breasts of their young girls, but I'm not glad we've moved on from practices that were commonplace more than 2500 years ago....

You can't even get your Russian propaganda correct.

You're going off to the deep end again. But I know you mean well.

Russian men tend not to marry outside partly for that reason, but Russian women don't have this same issue.

Yeah, cause Russian men are absolutely hideous, at least when they're older than 25 or so. In their early 20s some of them are real dolls.

You say stupid shit all the time,

Yeah, you just said that, but you couldn't provide any example, and apparently still cannot.

and on this conflict you are unironically as bad as Imp.

All this means is that you have a different view than I do. A little more tolerance for your views of others may suit you. Do you think I regard your views on this conflict as intelligent or well thought through? Of course not, but I manage to not insult you over them anyway.

Which makes me wonder, frankly, just why you love sucking up to "Daddy Putin" quite so much...

This height of intellect was brought to you by the guy who just moments ago complained about other saying 'stupid shit all the time'.

But like I said: I know you mean well.

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– bamboozler1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It's 3am. I'm not responding to insults or condescension.

Your talking points are straight out of 2005 Russia, apparently: https://archive.ph/yihOT

https://archive.ph/cPBsj

On the shortage of local men, and some of the reasons why.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/08/14/why-the-former-ussr-has-far-fewer-men-than-women/

I'm not going to argue these points. Your opinions on this are fundamentally compromised.

It's rather telling that your opinions on this shit are not even shared by the majority of Russians, and would get you laughed out of the room in most serious discussions.

You're supporting a regime, and an ideology, that is going to break Russia, at the rate it is going.

Hell, this "partial mobilisation" shit has already resulted in a bunch of people being killed, including school children.

I personally wouldn't want to be associated with backing the ideology that not only caused that, but is currently attempting to send several hundred thousand very unwilling young men off to invade their neighbouring country, but you do you.

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