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posted 4 years ago by folx 4 years ago by folx +89 / -0
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– GEB_SEER 50 points 4 years ago +50 / -0

They will never know the joy of having one's own people. That sense responsibility is one of the most important things to the human psyche, it cannot be replaced.

Mothers don't regard their children as sacred for no reason, again, absolutely nothing can replace that - not a career, not a cat, not miles of dick, not your entire pill cabinent. Nothing. Oh but you have financial independence! - Sure you do hun, how's that studio apartment you can barely afford and 100k lesbian dance theory debt? For all the literacy among these women they sure like to say nothing at all with as many words and as much snark possible.

We wonder why people are so fucking miserable and fucked in the head. Life is nothing but debt slavery, our useless fucking jobs, and taxes - we consume, consume, consume, and cut pieces off ourselves thinking "oh haha sour grapes!" and so long as we have netflix, social media, and pornography we're sedated and complicit. It's not fine.

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– Archie78 23 points 4 years ago +23 / -0

"The ability to speak doors make you intelligent"- Qui Gon Jinn

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– TheModernDaVinci 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

To be fair, you would indeed be pretty intelligent if you could speak to an inanimate object.

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– FatalConceit 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

you mean like your phone? ;)

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– MargarineMongoose 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

It's not fine.

I felt that in my soul.

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– AntonioOfVenice 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

What is the percentage of mothers who kill their kids - if it's 'uniquely feminine', Mr. Crazy?

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

'Uniquely' would require 100%, not 90% - even if I grant your argument.

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– coke501 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

because they do it to retaliate against their ex.

Classic feminism. Hurry and find the nearest man to blame.

Just imagine they'd make their 10% 'dream' come true. All the other unintended consequences of this idiocy aside, I think the worst thing for them will be that they'd run out of explanations for their constant fuckups that aren't 'maybe I AM a fucking inbecile'

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– GEB_SEER 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0
  1. Women who have an abortion are 3x more likely than women of child-bearing age in the general population to commit suicide.
  2. The increased risk percentage of women who have an abortion compared to women in the general population of having at least one mental health issue: 81%.
  3. Teen girls are up to 10x more likely to attempt suicide then their counterparts who have not had an abortion.
  4. Teen girls who have had an abortion are up to 4x more likely to successfully commit suicide when compared to older women who have had an abortion.
  5. About 45% of women who have had an abortion report having suicidal feelings immediately following their procedure.
  6. Only 1% of women of child-bearing age seek psychiatric help for mental health issues in the 9 months prior to having an abortion. After having an abortion, the percentage rises to 1.5%.
  7. Within a year after first-time mothers gave birth, 7 per 1,000 women were treated for mental-health issues, in comparison to 4 per 1,000 before baby.
  8. Up to 33% of mothers will experience depression at least once between the time their child is born and the child’s 12th birthday.
  9. 1995 data suggests that the rate of deliberate self-harm is 70% higher after abortion than after childbirth.
  10. The British Journal of Psychiatry found an 81% increased risk of mental trauma after abortion.
  11. At least 27% of women who have an abortion will have a moment of suicidal ideation afterward.
  12. A study of California Medicaid patients found that the risks of suicide increase by 154% for women after they have an abortion.
  13. 2 in 3 women who have a late abortion [after 12 weeks] suffer from the clinical definition of PTSD.
  14. 40% of women in one UK survey said that they wanted to keep their child, but the pressures of others to have an abortion forced their hand in the decision.
  15. Women whose first pregnancies ended in abortion are 65% more likely to score in the ‘high-risk’ range for clinical depression than women whose first pregnancies resulted in a birth.
  16. Abortion may be a risk factor for subsequent depression in women for up to 8 years after the pregnancy event.
  17. Women who have had an abortion are 34% more likely to develop an anxiety disorder.
  18. 110%. That’s the increased risk of alcohol abuse in women who have had an abortion.
  19. The number of women who have an abortion every year in the United States: 827,000.

Sure as hell isn't healthy mentally or physically, and of those who keep their child ask any mother they'll tell you 99% of the time the thing they're most proud of in this world is their children.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Teen girls are up to 10x more likely to attempt suicide then their counterparts who have not had an abortion

There's shitposting potential here where someone could work the angle the counterparts are teen boys despite what the point really refers to.

Then again male suicides are higher than female ones so the shitposting would run counter to the facts 🤡

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

A few of these points, to me, might be mistaking cause and effect, when they're likely both effects from the same cause.

Having an abortion doesn't make a teen commit suicide 10x more often, but rather, the type of teen who is likely to have no value to the sanctity of life and hate themselves will more likely be one "requiring" an abortion. Likewise with mental health issues: A woman who miraculously has surpassed the lowest bar of self control of "at least use a singular form of some type of birth control if you don't want a kid but MUST have sex immediately" is going to be much, much more likely to be mentally stable than one that cannot surmount that truly impossible obstacle.

Likewise, people who make the idiotic decision to willfully poison themselves for entertainment are, freeballing this here it's just a guess, more likely to engage in other risky activities that may not be the most intelligent choices. Preventing the one isn't likely to prevent the other, they're both sourced from the fact the surveyed respondant has no sense of personal responsibility, security, pride, or consequence.

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– GEB_SEER 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Maybe, I've also considered the substance abuse angle to perhaps correlate with the very same kind of fool that would end up getting one.

Though, by direct female testamony in my life - that guilt 100% exists.

I mean, for fucksake - women get postpartum depression after transitioning from breast to bottle feeding and no one even denies that, but legit losing your child in an extremely invasive proceedure somehow isn't even blinked at.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19666213/

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– The_Gay_Deceiver 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I'll just save this under the "Informative" category..

Also not to be a reddit but I wouldn't mind having the SOOOORSE for these.

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– GEB_SEER 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Initially I pulled from here but could find no sOOOOOOURCE~~. It led to a dig, this info isn't smiled upon at all.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-british-journal-of-psychiatry/article/abortion-and-mental-health-quantitative-synthesis-and-analysis-of-research-published-19952009/E8D556AAE1C1D2F0F8B060B28BEE6C3D

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/2592320

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5066584/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10920466/

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/8265918_Induced_abortion_and_traumatic_stress_A_preliminary_comparison_of_American_and_Russian_women

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/271195087_Universal_Responses_to_Abortion_Attachment_Trauma_and_Grief_Responses_in_W

https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/abortion-is-a-serious-risk-to-mental-health-and-can-make-suicide-six-times-more-likely-6587900.html

  1. An excellent resource is Thomas Strahan’s Detrimental Effects of Abortion: An Annotated Bibliography with Commentary (Third Edition) This resource includes brief summaries of major finding drawn from medical and psychology journal articles, books, and related materials, divided into major categories of relevant injuries. An online version can be found at AbortionRisks.org

  2. Ashton,”They Psychosocial Outcome of Induced Abortion”, British Journal of Ob&Gyn., 87:1115-1122, (1980).

  3. Badgley, et.al.,Report of the Committee on the Operation of the Abortion Law (Ottawa:Supply and Services, 1977)pp.313-321.

  4. R. Somers, “Risk of Admission to Psychiatric Institutions Among Danish Women who Experienced Induced Abortion: An Analysis on National Record Linkage,” Dissertation Abstracts International, Public Health 2621-B, Order No. 7926066 (1979); H. David, et al., “Postpartum and Postabortion Psychotic Reactions,” Family Planning Perspectives 13:88-91 (1981).

  5. Kent, et al., “Bereavement in Post-Abortive Women: A Clinical Report”, World Journal of Psychosynthesis (Autumn-Winter 1981), vol.13,nos.3-4.

  6. Catherine Barnard, The Long-Term Psychological Effects of Abortion, Portsmouth, N.H.: Institute for Pregnancy Loss, 1990).

  7. Herman, Trauma and Recovery, (New York: Basic Books, 1992) 34.

  8. Francke, The Ambivalence of Abortion (New York: Random House, 1978) 84-95.

  9. Zakus, “Adolescent Abortion Option,” Social Work in Health Care, 12(4):87 (1987); Makhorn, “Sexual Assault & Pregnancy,” New Perspectives on Human Abortion, Mall & Watts, eds., (Washington, D.C.: University Publications of America, 1981).

  10. Adler, “Sample Attrition in Studies of Psycho-social Sequelae of Abortion: How great a problem.” Journal of Social Issues, 1979, 35, 100-110.

  11. Speckhard, “Postabortion Syndrome: An Emerging Public Health Concern,” Journal of Social Issues, 48(3):95-119.

  12. Speckhard, Psycho-social Stress Following Abortion, Sheed & Ward, Kansas City: MO, 1987; and Belsey, et al., “Predictive Factors in Emotional Response to Abortion: King’s Termination Study – IV,” Soc. Sci. & Med., 11:71-82 (1977).

  13. Speckhard, Psycho-social Stress Following Abortion, Sheed & Ward, Kansas City: MO, 1987; Gissler, Hemminki & Lonnqvist, “Suicides after pregnancy in Finland, 1987-94: register linkage study,” British Journal of Medicine 313:1431-4, 1996.C. Haignere, et al., “HIV/AIDS Prevention and Multiple Risk Behaviors of Gay Male and Runaway Adolescents,” Sixth International Conference on AIDS: San Francisco, June 1990; N. Campbell, et al., “Abortion in Adolescence,” Adolescence, 23(92):813-823 (1988); H. Vaughan, Canonical Variates of Post-Abortion Syndrome, Portsmouth, NH: Institute for Pregnancy Loss, 1991; B. Garfinkel, “Stress, Depression and Suicide: A Study of Adolescents in Minnesota,” Responding to High Risk Youth, Minnesota Extension Service, University of Minnesota (1986).

  14. Harlap, “Characteristics of Pregnant Women Reporting Previous Induced Abortions,” Bulletin World Health Organization, 52:149 (1975); N. Meirik, “Outcome of First Delivery After 2nd Trimester Two Stage Induced Abortion: A Controlled Cohort Study,” Acta Obsetricia et Gynecologica Scandinavia 63(1):45-50(1984); Levin, et al., “Association of Induced Abortion with Subsequent Pregnancy Loss,” JAMA, 243:2495-2499, June 27, 1980.

  15. Obel, “Pregnancy Complications Following Legally Induced Abortion: An Analysis of the Population with Special Reference to Prematurity,” Danish Medical Bulletin, 26:192- 199 (1979); Martin, “An Overview: Maternal Nicotine and Caffeine Consumption and Offspring Outcome,” Neurobehavioral Toxicology and Tertology, 4(4):421-427, (1982).

  16. Klassen, “Sexual Experience and Drinking Among Women in a U.S. National Survey,” Archives of Sexual Behavior, 15(5):363-39 ; M. Plant, Women, Drinking and Pregnancy, Tavistock Pub, London (1985); Kuzma & Kissinger, “Patterns of Alcohol and Cigarette Use in Pregnancy,” Neurobehavioral Toxicology and Terotology, 3:211-221 (1981).

  17. Morrissey, et al., “Stressful Life Events and Alcohol Problems Among Women Seen at a Detoxification Center,” Journal of Studies on Alcohol, 39(9):1159 (1978).

  18. Oro, et al., “Perinatal Cocaine and Methamphetamine Exposure Maternal and Neo-Natal Correlates,” J. Pediatrics, 111:571- 578 (1978); D.A. Frank, et al., “Cocaine Use During Pregnancy Prevalence and Correlates,” Pediatrics, 82(6):888 (1988); H. Amaro, et al., “Drug Use Among Adolescent Mothers: Profile of Risk,” Pediatrics 84:144-150, (1989)

  19. Speckhard, Psycho-social Stress Following Abortion, Sheed & Ward, Kansas City: MO, 1987; J. Spaulding, et al, “Psychoses Following Therapeutic Abortion, Am. J. of Psychiatry 125(3):364 (1978); R.K. McAll, et al., “Ritual Mourning in Anorexia Nervosa,” The Lancet, August 16, 1980, p. 368.

  20. Benedict, et al., “Maternal Perinatal Risk Factors and Child Abuse,” Child Abuse and Neglect, 9:217-224 (1985); P.G. Ney, “Relationship between Abortion and Child Abuse,” Canadian Journal of Psychiatry, 24:610-620, 1979; Reardon, Aborted Women – Silent No More (Chicago: Loyola University Press, 1987), 129-30, describes a case of woman who beat her three year old son to death shortly after an abortion which triggered a “psychotic episode” of grief, guilt, and misplaced anger.

  21. Shepard, et al., “Contraceptive Practice and Repeat Induced Abortion: An Epidemiological Investigation,” J. Biosocial Science, 11:289-302 (1979); M. Bracken, “First and Repeated Abortions: A Study of Decision-Making and Delay,” J. Biosocial Science, 7:473-491 (1975); S. Henshaw, “The Characteristics and Prior Contraceptive Use of U.S. Abortion Patients,” Family Planning Perspectives, 20(4):158-168 (1988); D. Sherman, et al., “The Abortion Experience in Private Practice,” Women and Loss: Psychobiological Perspectives, ed. W.F. Finn, et al., (New York: Praeger Publ. 1985), pp98-107; E.M. Belsey, et al., “Predictive Factors in Emotional Response to Abortion: King’s Termination Study – IV,” Social Science and Medicine, 11:71- 82 (1977); E. Freeman, et al., “Emotional Distress Patterns Among Women Having First or Repeat Abortions,” Obstetrics and Gynecology, 55(5):630-636 (1980); C. Berger, et al., “Repeat Abortion: Is it a Problem?” Family Planning Perspectives 16(2):70-75 (1984).

  22. Joyce, “The Social and Economic Correlates of Pregnancy Resolution Among Adolescents in New York by Race and Ethnicity: A Multivariate Analysis,” Am. J. of Public Health, 78(6):626-631 (1988); C. Tietze, “Repeat Abortions – Why More?” Family Planning Perspectives 10(5):286-288, (1978).

  23. Leach, “The Repeat Abortion Patient,” Family Planning Perspectives, 9(1):37-39 (1977); S. Fischer, “Reflection on Repeated Abortions: The meanings and motivations,” Journal of Social Work Practice 2(2):70-87 (1986); B. Howe, et al., “Repeat Abortion, Blaming the Victims,” Am. J. of Public Health, 69(12):1242-1246, (1979).

  24. See Reardon DC, Coleman PK. Short and long term mortality rates associated with first pregnancy outcome: Population register based study for Denmark 1980-2004. Med Sci Monit 2012;18(9):PH 71 – 76; and Reardon DC, Ney PG, Scheuren F, Cougle J, Coleman PK, Strahan TW. Deaths associated with pregnancy outcome: a record linkage study of low income women. South Med J 2002 Aug;95(8):834-41.

  25. Source: Coleman PK. Abortion and mental health: quantitative synthesis and analysis of research published 1995–2009. The British Journal of Psychiatry (2011) 199, 180–186.

  26. Mota, NP et. al., “Associations Between Abortion, Mental Disorders and Suicidal Behavior in a Nationally Representative Sample,” The Canadian Journal of Psychiatry 55(4): 239-246 (April 2010).

  27. DC Reardon and PK Coleman, “Relative Treatment Rates for Sleep Disorders and Sleep Disturbances Following Abortion and Childbirth: A Prospective Record Based-Study,” Sleep 29(1):105-106, 2006

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– The_Gay_Deceiver 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Tyvm

Can never have enough hate fax

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– blackestknight 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

If the kid is never born, were you even a mother ?

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– covok48 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

They mean mother who keep their kids. Retard.

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– Vicenzo 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I agree with you on degradation of feminine virtue. However I also see a cacophony of men calling for abortion because they don't want to raise their own kids with women they had sex with. I have every ounce of empathy for men who lose their children to abortion by the mothers alone. But I am sick and tired when I see men advocating for abortion to avoid consequences. Both sides killing their own kids to continue being irresponsible.

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 29 points 4 years ago +29 / -0

"ema" is a New Zealander who, in the past five days, has tweeted about:

Astrology
Casual sex
Communism
Having to live with her parents because she has no money
Being broke
Being on anti-depressants
Being bisexual (about ten billion times)

I was going to go through a whole week but she tweets like fifty times a fucking day and it's just an endless torrent of all lower case Penguin of Doom twitter randomness that gets five likes if she's lucky. This woman is so ignored by the universe that I wonder how you managed to find her.

If I ever have a daughter, I'll use Ema's Twitter feed to scare the shit out of her and prevent her from becoming a Current Year failed woman.

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– Indipendepede 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Can we find one more? I almost have "failed modern woman" Bingo

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– Zigzag010 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Its literally the "women born after 1993 cant do anything meme"

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– novanleon 25 points 4 years ago +25 / -0

They're so arrogant, they can be depressed and still think they're superior to you.

They don't have the capacity to connect the dots between their unhappiness and their own life choices/beliefs. They're strong independent women but somehow don't have any agency over their own lives. Go figure.

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– RaisingPhoenix 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I am not sure if it is arrogance or if it is a twisted coping mechanism that they are using to try and avoid having to face the fact that their life is filled with an inordinate amount of mistakes

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– NippleSalad 23 points 4 years ago +23 / -0

How cute the corperate slave thinks it's independent

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– CarmenOfSandiego 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Good ol' Python being years ahead of the curve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHbzSif78qQ

Also same movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c

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– Steampunk_Moustache 18 points 4 years ago +18 / -0

forced to marry a man out of survival and reproduce

Reproduction IS survival.

The only thing you are doing with your financial independence is committing slow suicide. Worse, your lack children means other people will have to take care of you. This will be as unpleasant for you as it is for the economy that you and millions of people like you are destroying through grey pressure.

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– covok48 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

And the irony is that she’ll neither financially independent nor has parents who will force her to marry anyone.

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– NataliePortmanteau 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

Your cats are gonna eat your face first when you die alone in your apartment.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

But have you considered that their depression is caused by Patriarchy (TM)? Checkmate!

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– FuckMcNuggets 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

People's bodies (especially women's) are literally designed by God to make us feel good about having children, to make sure we don't just waste our lives. The longer you go without having children, the more depressed you get because your body feels like a complete biological failure.

The funny thing is that these people don't underatand this and think their miserable state is the norm, and process everything from those lens. The result is that they will never think children would improve their situation because they don't get the point of it, and when they see happy people it doesn't make any sense to them so they come up with "explanations" to justify it, and it's usually shit like "that woman isn't truly happy, she's oppressed", "the patriarchy", "racism".

It's like being hungry and having no idea that eating food makes you less hungry. Why would you waste money and energy to consume food if it's useless? You would just try to make your life as easy as possible to live so you can spend more time resting and distracting yourself from your awful situation.

All this is obviously a result of jews liying to destroy everyone else and get more power. As always.

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– Ruiner 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Honestly?

I'd rather see women with a load of pets to fill the void than five kids from five different guys whose only purpose in life is securing the jobs of government employees.

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– rantanon9145 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

That's what happens if you leave literal overgrown children to their own devices. Women are genetically hardwired to never reach mental adulthood in order to raise children better. That also means they cannot be truly independent - period. End point: Islam is right about women.

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– user20461 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I've seen what not having children can do to a woman. Prepare for 100 cats.

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– Sgt_Thundercok 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Is 'ema' a dude?

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