Haven’t watched it but it sounds like standard Disney. Market a show only to have it be about a different character than the one on the title screen. The EU book Kenobi by John Jackson Miller is a great book that covers that time period.
So in Legends pretty much no one knew who Vader actually was outside of Yoda, Kenobi and the Emperor. Tarkin and Thrawn both figured it out on their own.
Even in the new Disney timeline Vader's true identity is supposed to be known to very few people. Once again the Emperor, Tarkin and Thrawn with the last 2 figuring it out. Vader has been known in the new canon to kill people for specifically figuring it or even seeing his face.
But the new canon now is already so bloated and confusing that they're already contradicting themselves and it is only going to get worse with everything being full canon.
To answer u/Mpetey123 some of them did know who Vader really was.
Malorum [later the first Grand Inquisitor] initially worked as an Imperial Intelligence operative, and along with Director Armand Isard, visited the Jedi Temple in the aftermath of Order 66. There, he saw a hologram of Emperor Palpatine addressing Anakin Skywalker as Lord Vader. Thus, Malorum was one of a few in the Empire—along with Prince Xizor, two decades later—who knew Vader's true identity, although Vader and Palpatine were unaware of this fact.
Following the incident, Malorum was plucked out of obscurity by Palpatine, who revealed that he was a Sith and placed Malorum in charge of the Inquisitorius
The Inquisitors existed in the EU. They were actually mentioned in the radio drama which was fully approved by George Lucas which would make them top level canon at the time.
Falcon was okay. The seemingly walked the line but ended on mostly being pro America. Loki was really good. Wanda was shit. If there are others I don’t much care.
The entire Falcon show was them treating an actual standup patriot as evil just because he dared to exist, then his actions as evil just because he was doing them and opposing the terrorists who killed his best friend. All in service of "police brutality bad, whites bad."
Its only pro America if your America is that very specific one they promote.
I agree with that part being wokey, but still liked that it ended with him saying “Yeah look America ain’t perfect but America’s still great and I’m Captain Fucking America so let’s stop this nonsense and just move on.”
Walker is a character so good that he exudes patriotism in spite of the writers and the story itself trying to paint him and America bad.
They admitted fully what they were attempting to do with him, and the series. They just failed so badly at it they ended up making him look more heroic than the heroes, and America the same.
Kinda like Starship Troopers, which makes fascism look awesome.
Wanda would have been great if the weird stuff was reserved for 1 episode max. Most of them in general weren’t great. I did thoroughly enjoy Loki though. Loki and Mandolorian were the best of the Disney owned attempts at a TV series for me and generally just great.
I usually wait to see what someone says about things since most of them suck and most have said the newer ones suck.
Apparently they know Organa and Kenobi are close friends, so it makes sense that he goes to save his friend's daughter. It's very weird that they find Obi Wan and discover they can bait him out of hiding and ultimately do nothing about it because of course he's alive in episode IV.
If they're smart they're going to have the last episode end with it being ambiguous on whether or not Kenobi is dead or not.
Also something like that would play right into the Emperor's hands as well. Because he can forbid Vader from wasting his time searching for a dead man while Vader is still paranoid that the only the man he is actually afraid of is still out there.
I took that more as hyperbole. But also this is a universe where the "republic" wasn't really much a republic either. So it could just be by pointless appointment with a regent which would explain a ton of the incompetence that plagued the old republic.
My biggest gripe is now where force users can pull memories from people's heads now. I know that already got established in the sequel trilogy but it makes shit way too easy.
It was established they could read surface thoughts. Not dig into someone's mind. Vader couldn't force Leia to give up the location of the rebel base. And in the PT they couldn't force thoughts out of anyone. The jedi mind trick was limited.
The parts with the old characters are good, meaning the scenes focused on Obi-Wan or Bail Organa. Unfortunately much of the show seems to be centered on the new characters Reva and “young Leia”. The former being a terrible actor and the latter being a child.
He neglected his connection to the force after what happened. It’s implied by the scene where he uses the force with Leia after some reluctance and much effort.
The old Obi-Wan wouldn’t hesitate or have trouble using the force.
I'm talking about the officers; captains and such. People high enough to know the office politics, that Anakin had the ear of the Chancellor.
For anyone in a senior role in the GAR, it wouldn't be surprising that Anakin sides with Palpatine, and that naturally the 501st serve Vader because they've always been his unit even when he was Anakin Skywalker.
And if enough of THEM know, then it becomes common knowledge by dint of gossip.
I think your viewpoint is naïve about human societies.
Powerful shadowy force user appears outta nowhere as the Emperor's right hand man, who just happens to be a kickass pilot and commands the personal legion of a clone wars hero who also happened to be a powerful force user and kickass pilot who had the Emperor's favor...
I know you think the Imperials are crapouts but come on.
Worst part is she can’t fucking act. Feels like they dropped some random cosplayer into the TV show, surrounded by talent like Ewan McGregor and Jimmy Smitts.
Mickey got bent over as soon as Walt and Roy died. They've been prepping and infiltrating all this time. Watch all the "classic" films - not just Disney, Lethal Weapon had the "I try to shoot him in the leg" dreck and the gun control shit. Hell, Riggs stops an elementary school shooting to set up his character....as a crazy and suicidal white man loose cannon himself. The shooter is white as well. It's always been there. Openly. Faggotry isn't new, either. I'm surprised they let Mel utter the word disgusting when he and Murtagh talk about Dixie the whore being with the daughter of Murtaugh's friend.
I'm not that into Star Wars. I've watched 8 of the 9 movies, the two seasons of Mandalorian, and played both KOTOR games. That's pretty much it. Two friends who are huge Star Wars nerds on a Discord sever were watching the first two episodes of Obi Wan and I watched with them. Consensus was the first episode was alright, but the second one was terrible. Annoying child character, yas queen slay villain, and huge lore retcons that I wasn't privy to.
I did think it was hilarious that the very first scene was a school shooting.
We’d probably be better off without copyright laws on some things like characters and likenesses at least to an extent. There should be some provision there to allow for fanfiction to flourish and be sold if it’s good.
Super heroes would be amazing. You’d have epic stories were people had values and died, not the capeshit they put out. They’d have made use of all the cool stuff and symbolism Star Wars could offer. Imagine a world where all you had to do was just take the thing and write it well. Where you can’t really make a bad Star Wars movie because fans just wrote their own and you can just use that to make it. Having companies compete to make different renditions of epic fan fiction that got popular because it was simply well written uses of an idea.
I don’t imagine any leftist or woke versions of anything would thrive in that environment because if you’re not forced to see them then no one would choose them.
Copyright seemingly wasn’t intended to allow for infinite franchising and other people coming in to destroy a property.
I think copyright should last 50 years from the date of creation, period. That's plenty of time for an author to enjoy the benefits of exclusive rights. It also covers their family, if the author dies prematurely.
Current copyright laws allow corporations to have exclusive rights to creative works that they had no hand in creating.
Haven’t watched it but it sounds like standard Disney. Market a show only to have it be about a different character than the one on the title screen. The EU book Kenobi by John Jackson Miller is a great book that covers that time period.
I did hear Az and Jayne Theory rip it apart.
So in Legends pretty much no one knew who Vader actually was outside of Yoda, Kenobi and the Emperor. Tarkin and Thrawn both figured it out on their own.
Even in the new Disney timeline Vader's true identity is supposed to be known to very few people. Once again the Emperor, Tarkin and Thrawn with the last 2 figuring it out. Vader has been known in the new canon to kill people for specifically figuring it or even seeing his face.
But the new canon now is already so bloated and confusing that they're already contradicting themselves and it is only going to get worse with everything being full canon.
In the 2017 Vader comic he kills every Stormtrooper on a dropship after the Jedi they are trying to catch reveals Vader's identity to them.
The inquisitors didn't exist until disney.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jerec_(Inquisitor)
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Inquisitorius/Legends
there were definitely inquisitors in the old eu, vader can't be everywhere at once.
Nope. They were introduced by Disney.
The closest thing were the emperors hands. And I don't think most, if any, of them would have known.
In the Force Unleashed DLC, Starkiller becomes an inquisitor. It's all "what if" stuff but it was pre-Disney before LucasArts was dismantled.
i wouldnt be surprised if they dug out the old ideas and concepts when they took over.
Inquisitors were definitely in the EU, the most prominent probably being the villain of 'The Crystal Star'.
The Inquisitors existed in the EU. They were actually mentioned in the radio drama which was fully approved by George Lucas which would make them top level canon at the time.
Not that I ever read but I keep finding more EU that I never read so that’s great.
Is there one single D+ show that hasn’t bait-and-switched the male lead into being a second-fiddle-bannana bitch boy in his own series?
and mulatto terrorist girl we are supposed to root for because she is "fighting the system"
Falcon was okay. The seemingly walked the line but ended on mostly being pro America. Loki was really good. Wanda was shit. If there are others I don’t much care.
Loki was trash. It was an excuse to shit on his character and to suck the signifigance out of the previous movies.
The entire Falcon show was them treating an actual standup patriot as evil just because he dared to exist, then his actions as evil just because he was doing them and opposing the terrorists who killed his best friend. All in service of "police brutality bad, whites bad."
Its only pro America if your America is that very specific one they promote.
I agree with that part being wokey, but still liked that it ended with him saying “Yeah look America ain’t perfect but America’s still great and I’m Captain Fucking America so let’s stop this nonsense and just move on.”
Walker is a character so good that he exudes patriotism in spite of the writers and the story itself trying to paint him and America bad.
They admitted fully what they were attempting to do with him, and the series. They just failed so badly at it they ended up making him look more heroic than the heroes, and America the same.
Kinda like Starship Troopers, which makes fascism look awesome.
Wanda would have been great if the weird stuff was reserved for 1 episode max. Most of them in general weren’t great. I did thoroughly enjoy Loki though. Loki and Mandolorian were the best of the Disney owned attempts at a TV series for me and generally just great.
I usually wait to see what someone says about things since most of them suck and most have said the newer ones suck.
Apparently they know Organa and Kenobi are close friends, so it makes sense that he goes to save his friend's daughter. It's very weird that they find Obi Wan and discover they can bait him out of hiding and ultimately do nothing about it because of course he's alive in episode IV.
If they're smart they're going to have the last episode end with it being ambiguous on whether or not Kenobi is dead or not.
Also something like that would play right into the Emperor's hands as well. Because he can forbid Vader from wasting his time searching for a dead man while Vader is still paranoid that the only the man he is actually afraid of is still out there.
"Go deliver the message to this dude that lives in the middle of nowhere on tatooine, he fought in the clone wars.
And it's also the same guy that saved you when you were kidnapped lol"
At least as far as episode 2 she doesn't know his name. And to be fair dude does age horribly in the next ten years.
In the show she says that Bail Organa and Obi-Wan were close during the war, which is why she kidnapped his daughter.
I still think it was a dumb shot in the dark. If they really are that close, why hasn't the empire used Bail Organa to bait Kenobi out before?
To be fair, her mother was elected queen at 14.
...I'm willing to forgive a lot of issues with the prequels, but Episode 1 really stretches it.
I took that more as hyperbole. But also this is a universe where the "republic" wasn't really much a republic either. So it could just be by pointless appointment with a regent which would explain a ton of the incompetence that plagued the old republic.
Maybe people from that planet age really fast? I mean, they can apparently die from "sadness" mid childbirth, so they're clearly not Earth Human.
Not the same planet
And yet the nine year old actress playing a ten year old character looks and acts like toddler.
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
My biggest gripe is now where force users can pull memories from people's heads now. I know that already got established in the sequel trilogy but it makes shit way too easy.
It was established in the originals when Vader determined that Luke had a sister.
It was established they could read surface thoughts. Not dig into someone's mind. Vader couldn't force Leia to give up the location of the rebel base. And in the PT they couldn't force thoughts out of anyone. The jedi mind trick was limited.
I think it is fair to say that Obi-Wan was clearly first and foremost in his mind when Reva was searching it. He had just told him where to go.
Why would you expect anything different? Star Wars is dead and has been for years.
That breaks my heart a little. I really wanted the show to be good.
That is intentional. Think about how someone who feels nothing but contempt for the mythology and the fans is in charge of shaping the story.
Let the hate flow through you.
The parts with the old characters are good, meaning the scenes focused on Obi-Wan or Bail Organa. Unfortunately much of the show seems to be centered on the new characters Reva and “young Leia”. The former being a terrible actor and the latter being a child.
I'll just fast forward them.
Wow, the dead horse they been beating is spewing out rotten shit.
Any other brilliant observations?
Define common knowledge.
Tarkin, Yularen, and Motti know. For that matter, all the officers who served in the GAR probably know.
But why doesn't Kenobi know he's alive after 10 years?
Denial. Flying high on copium.
I wish the jedi master Kenobi wasn't carrying on high on copium
He neglected his connection to the force after what happened. It’s implied by the scene where he uses the force with Leia after some reluctance and much effort.
The old Obi-Wan wouldn’t hesitate or have trouble using the force.
The GAR veterans would all know the significance of the 501st.
In the same sort of way that EVERYONE in the 1950's would know who Tony McAuliffe was.
Guys I think this vader guy is actualĺy general skywalker
It can't be, he's much taller than skywalker
Maybe he got some surgery to be taller
How insecure you have to be to do that?
vader seething
I'm talking about the officers; captains and such. People high enough to know the office politics, that Anakin had the ear of the Chancellor.
For anyone in a senior role in the GAR, it wouldn't be surprising that Anakin sides with Palpatine, and that naturally the 501st serve Vader because they've always been his unit even when he was Anakin Skywalker.
And if enough of THEM know, then it becomes common knowledge by dint of gossip.
I think your viewpoint is naïve about human societies.
Powerful shadowy force user appears outta nowhere as the Emperor's right hand man, who just happens to be a kickass pilot and commands the personal legion of a clone wars hero who also happened to be a powerful force user and kickass pilot who had the Emperor's favor...
I know you think the Imperials are crapouts but come on.
There is a difference. between a strong suspicion that they're the same person and knowing that they are the same person.
Especially when expressing those views will probably get you killed.
Funny how they decided to make the most retarded insufferable character a nigger woman
Worst part is she can’t fucking act. Feels like they dropped some random cosplayer into the TV show, surrounded by talent like Ewan McGregor and Jimmy Smitts.
They managed to increase my hatred for niggers
He buried the sabers in sand knowing he was gonna need them but he just found them again. How did he find them??
It is later established he refuses to use force powers because of trauma, until he has to save leia.
Also, the Force isn't a metal detector.
Disney groomin'. Forced.
FJB. FMickey. FForce.
Mickey got bent over as soon as Walt and Roy died. They've been prepping and infiltrating all this time. Watch all the "classic" films - not just Disney, Lethal Weapon had the "I try to shoot him in the leg" dreck and the gun control shit. Hell, Riggs stops an elementary school shooting to set up his character....as a crazy and suicidal white man loose cannon himself. The shooter is white as well. It's always been there. Openly. Faggotry isn't new, either. I'm surprised they let Mel utter the word disgusting when he and Murtagh talk about Dixie the whore being with the daughter of Murtaugh's friend.
I'm not that into Star Wars. I've watched 8 of the 9 movies, the two seasons of Mandalorian, and played both KOTOR games. That's pretty much it. Two friends who are huge Star Wars nerds on a Discord sever were watching the first two episodes of Obi Wan and I watched with them. Consensus was the first episode was alright, but the second one was terrible. Annoying child character, yas queen slay villain, and huge lore retcons that I wasn't privy to.
I did think it was hilarious that the very first scene was a school shooting.
Stop giving money to people who hate you.
When I saw the trailer i thought the negress was the same diversity hire mary sue that ruined half of westworld.
It’s sad to think that Star Wars would have been better left to fan fiction.
We’d probably be better off without copyright laws on some things like characters and likenesses at least to an extent. There should be some provision there to allow for fanfiction to flourish and be sold if it’s good.
Super heroes would be amazing. You’d have epic stories were people had values and died, not the capeshit they put out. They’d have made use of all the cool stuff and symbolism Star Wars could offer. Imagine a world where all you had to do was just take the thing and write it well. Where you can’t really make a bad Star Wars movie because fans just wrote their own and you can just use that to make it. Having companies compete to make different renditions of epic fan fiction that got popular because it was simply well written uses of an idea.
I don’t imagine any leftist or woke versions of anything would thrive in that environment because if you’re not forced to see them then no one would choose them.
Copyright seemingly wasn’t intended to allow for infinite franchising and other people coming in to destroy a property.
I think copyright should last 50 years from the date of creation, period. That's plenty of time for an author to enjoy the benefits of exclusive rights. It also covers their family, if the author dies prematurely.
Current copyright laws allow corporations to have exclusive rights to creative works that they had no hand in creating.