He should wait a few days or a month. Give time for Elon to shake things up inside. That is, assuming he actually does it. But this soon? Likely he will get a ban.
He should wait a few days or a month. Give time for Elon to shake things up inside.
He should wait until Elon is actually in charge. Board approved the sale, but now shareholders need to vote, and then Elon actually needs to take over.
I heard it was going to take like 6 months to complete the sale.
But I don't think it matters. It seems the Twats have turned off "trust and safety" and are intent on destroying Twitter and turning it into a cesspool before Elon gets control but blaming him for it.
...but there's got to be some kind of escape clause where if the Twats intentionally destroy the company he doesn't have to complete the sale, an epic self-own if they destroy it and then are left holding the bag.
But I don't think it matters. It seems the Twats have turned off "trust and safety" and are intent on destroying Twitter and turning it into a cesspool before Elon gets control but blaming him for it.
How is that “destroying Twitter”? Isn’t that exactly what Elon wants? Isn’t that what we want?
They want to run NYT hit pieces on how dangerous racism has increased 5000% because of white nationalist Elon, they want pizzagate, and advertisers leaving.
If they turn it into twitter-chan that's fine with me, but they believe they're destroying it and taking their ball home with them.
They want to run NYT hit pieces on how dangerous racism has increased 5000% because of white nationalist Elon, they want pizzagate, and advertisers leaving.
All of that would absolutely happen if Elon decides to impose “free speech absolutism”, as he claims he will, and that’s a good thing. Seems like they’re just implementing his proposed policies in advance.
They are probably "burning" documents by now. So the evidence will be external only. But it does help to create a large sample of people wronged by Twitter.
Yeah, does he technically even "have it" yet to make any changes? Even if he did, dude things take time..... I can't imagine that if he does fix twitter he will be able to overnight.
After writing that, and reading a bit about it, apparently it will take a few months until the transaction is fully complete, and the board fully accepts the money. From what I understood, if Twitter fails to take his money, they will owe Elon US$1 Billion. And since the company is broke and losing money, they will be fucked if they screw this up.
And you are right, I also doubt he will be able to fix it all. But the way Twitter is, at least a 5% attempt at moving in the right direction is a positive outcome in my book.
Not that anyone should have expected anything else. Literally nothing has changed yet. The same alogrithms and the same moderation teams and the same policies are still in place.
Still, there is perhaps value in doing this, if only to keep the noise level up when it comes to how badly twitter's policies censor anything the left doesn't want you to see.
People are definitely already getting away with more than what was possible a few days ago. Other's are reporting weirdly higher visibility from follows and contacts they felt were suppressed for months. Rekieta Law had his old suspended account vacated, so he was simply able to change his new account's name and essentially reclaim his old tag.
One speculation I've seen is that Twitter's Trust and Stasi team are panicked and turning off or deleting a lot of the suppressive controls they had in place, before Elon or any of his new people can get in and see exactly what was being played with behind the curtain.
EDIT: Robinson being the exception may just be because it's still fashionable and safe to use him as a scapegoat and a punchbag. YT and even the British establishment are shameless in how they shit on him, not even Musk taking over Twitter would make some janny scared of personally deleting Robinson's tweets.
I have no problem with Tommy Robinson but this is just attention whoring. Elon just bought twitter, he clearly has no oversight over things like that yet and even if he does, he has more pressing things to deal with right now. if Robinson sincerely expected a different result then he's an idiot.
This guy wants to post on Twitter and Gettr but he stopped posting on Gab. Why? Im guessing he only supports free speech except when it comes to talking against small hats.
But I do wonder why you prefer Gab, considering you people burned books, and suppressed speech when you were in power from the 20s ish to 1945... Pretty weird using free speech when it is convenient but then banning it when you are in power.
Is your antisemitism so virulent that you can't support the one activist in the UK speaking out about the growing Muslim threat in Europe? Do you want to see an English Caliphate arise from sheer overwhelming numbers of immigrants and their entrenched breeder enclaves? How about the complete destruction of what's left of Christianity and the Western tradition?
These antisemite CONSOOOME antisemitic Arab propaganda as diligent as the terrorists in those regions. It would not be wrong calling these asswipes "honorary Muslims".
I am willing to entertain your reasons for calling Robinson a "Zionist puppet." Why assume that some random guy understands the reasons for your apparent hatred of Jews?
Not the OP, but Robinson raised money for a documentary about the problems with Muslim immigrants and then made the whole thing about some Jews whining about being called mean names instead of focusing on the rape gangs.
It's why he lost a ton of credibility among the dissident right. There are fair amount of "alt-lite" types who are anti-Muslim and are easily co-opted (or in the act) into carrying water for Zionists because of Israel's problems with Muslims. Muslims flooding into Europe are really a symptom of a larger problem, the West's elites being hostile to white people. Supporting Zionism doesn't remove said elites or facilitate structural changes the West needs. Zionism will, if anything, fold into supporting the status quo.
I have not seen the documentary. I will look into it.
I agree that the problem of the Muslim assault on English culture and law is more serious than antisemitism in general.
By "Zionism" do you refer to what Israel does politically regarding Palestine? I have no opinion on this.
I agree with your take on the larger problem of the Western elites' hostility toward white people, that is, the hostility of Western institutions, especially academia.
He should wait a few days or a month. Give time for Elon to shake things up inside. That is, assuming he actually does it. But this soon? Likely he will get a ban.
He should wait until Elon is actually in charge. Board approved the sale, but now shareholders need to vote, and then Elon actually needs to take over.
I heard it was going to take like 6 months to complete the sale.
But I don't think it matters. It seems the Twats have turned off "trust and safety" and are intent on destroying Twitter and turning it into a cesspool before Elon gets control but blaming him for it.
...but there's got to be some kind of escape clause where if the Twats intentionally destroy the company he doesn't have to complete the sale, an epic self-own if they destroy it and then are left holding the bag.
How is that “destroying Twitter”? Isn’t that exactly what Elon wants? Isn’t that what we want?
I mean I want twitter destroyed if it cant be turned into a free speech absolutists memefest, minus any porn since that damages free speech.
They want to run NYT hit pieces on how dangerous racism has increased 5000% because of white nationalist Elon, they want pizzagate, and advertisers leaving.
If they turn it into twitter-chan that's fine with me, but they believe they're destroying it and taking their ball home with them.
All of that would absolutely happen if Elon decides to impose “free speech absolutism”, as he claims he will, and that’s a good thing. Seems like they’re just implementing his proposed policies in advance.
Twitter is a cesspool even with "trust and safety."
Good point!
I wonder how long he will be up for?
I suspect the activists at twitter are in crisis meetings for a few hours. Then collecting their xanax prescriptions.
I think you are right on why he still hasn't bee... And it's gone.
The Twitter mods must have had emergency Xanax pills stashed somewhere.
It's already suspended
I bet a lot of them called in sick this morning and are traumatised.
nah do it now. piss of the current staff. have more evidence of those acting against policies so they can be fired
They are probably "burning" documents by now. So the evidence will be external only. But it does help to create a large sample of people wronged by Twitter.
Yeah, does he technically even "have it" yet to make any changes? Even if he did, dude things take time..... I can't imagine that if he does fix twitter he will be able to overnight.
After writing that, and reading a bit about it, apparently it will take a few months until the transaction is fully complete, and the board fully accepts the money. From what I understood, if Twitter fails to take his money, they will owe Elon US$1 Billion. And since the company is broke and losing money, they will be fucked if they screw this up.
And you are right, I also doubt he will be able to fix it all. But the way Twitter is, at least a 5% attempt at moving in the right direction is a positive outcome in my book.
Aaaand it's already gone.
Not that anyone should have expected anything else. Literally nothing has changed yet. The same alogrithms and the same moderation teams and the same policies are still in place.
Still, there is perhaps value in doing this, if only to keep the noise level up when it comes to how badly twitter's policies censor anything the left doesn't want you to see.
I offer you this counterpoint:
https://twitter.com/SaraGonzalesTX
archive https://archive.ph/E418M
People are definitely already getting away with more than what was possible a few days ago. Other's are reporting weirdly higher visibility from follows and contacts they felt were suppressed for months. Rekieta Law had his old suspended account vacated, so he was simply able to change his new account's name and essentially reclaim his old tag.
One speculation I've seen is that Twitter's Trust and Stasi team are panicked and turning off or deleting a lot of the suppressive controls they had in place, before Elon or any of his new people can get in and see exactly what was being played with behind the curtain.
EDIT: Robinson being the exception may just be because it's still fashionable and safe to use him as a scapegoat and a punchbag. YT and even the British establishment are shameless in how they shit on him, not even Musk taking over Twitter would make some janny scared of personally deleting Robinson's tweets.
I'd say you're right.
I have no problem with Tommy Robinson but this is just attention whoring. Elon just bought twitter, he clearly has no oversight over things like that yet and even if he does, he has more pressing things to deal with right now. if Robinson sincerely expected a different result then he's an idiot.
Yeah, this is way too soon. No policies have been rewritten, no staff moved positions, nothing.
As well as the facts not quite true… I’d hate to see Twitter go from brain dead hard left to brain dead hard right.. Well actually, I don’t care 😂
What is the actual statistic?
This guy wants to post on Twitter and Gettr but he stopped posting on Gab. Why? Im guessing he only supports free speech except when it comes to talking against small hats.
I don't imagine there's anyone on Gab who still needs to be convinced that Muslim grooming gangs and their enablers in government are a problem.
You could say the same thing about Gettr. The main thing that separates gettr and gab is gab allows speech against the small hats.
Because Gab is a bit shitty in the UI.
But I do wonder why you prefer Gab, considering you people burned books, and suppressed speech when you were in power from the 20s ish to 1945... Pretty weird using free speech when it is convenient but then banning it when you are in power.
If everyone who criticizes Jews is a nazi, then nazis have occupied like 110 countries over the course of a thousand years lol
That is strawmanning my argument.
But why don't you tell us why you think that.
because you people got kicked out of 110 countries so 110 countries must be nazis then.
Who are these "you people" and why were they kicked out?
Someone remind me, what was in those books that were burned?
War of the world was one of them. Would you like more?
Would you like more censorship and more authoritarianism?
It seems you at least want more of the last one.
What an idiot. The Twitter ghouls have not yet been leashed, and are probably more rabid than ever considering they will be getting fixed soon enough.
Sad really, because that message at least needs to go viral.
already suspended...
I'm thinking either moderation has been put on hold, or else the Mods are in panic mode right now, afraid to do anything for fear of being fired...
Have the TOS, Community guidelines, etc. changed any in the last twenty four hours? I haven't kept up with twatter, so I don't know.
"That bastard Musk might do what we've been doing all along!"
Is your antisemitism so virulent that you can't support the one activist in the UK speaking out about the growing Muslim threat in Europe? Do you want to see an English Caliphate arise from sheer overwhelming numbers of immigrants and their entrenched breeder enclaves? How about the complete destruction of what's left of Christianity and the Western tradition?
These antisemite CONSOOOME antisemitic Arab propaganda as diligent as the terrorists in those regions. It would not be wrong calling these asswipes "honorary Muslims".
What's imbecilic about it, wise guy?
I am willing to entertain your reasons for calling Robinson a "Zionist puppet." Why assume that some random guy understands the reasons for your apparent hatred of Jews?
Not the OP, but Robinson raised money for a documentary about the problems with Muslim immigrants and then made the whole thing about some Jews whining about being called mean names instead of focusing on the rape gangs.
It's why he lost a ton of credibility among the dissident right. There are fair amount of "alt-lite" types who are anti-Muslim and are easily co-opted (or in the act) into carrying water for Zionists because of Israel's problems with Muslims. Muslims flooding into Europe are really a symptom of a larger problem, the West's elites being hostile to white people. Supporting Zionism doesn't remove said elites or facilitate structural changes the West needs. Zionism will, if anything, fold into supporting the status quo.
I have not seen the documentary. I will look into it.
I agree that the problem of the Muslim assault on English culture and law is more serious than antisemitism in general.
By "Zionism" do you refer to what Israel does politically regarding Palestine? I have no opinion on this.
I agree with your take on the larger problem of the Western elites' hostility toward white people, that is, the hostility of Western institutions, especially academia.
By Zionism I mean Jewish nationalism of the form that believes in the project of the Jewish ethnostate of Israel.
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Why is being a zoniist bad?
The Israeli government ain't worth defending anymore due to it's current state.
Why?
Jewish nationalists aren't very fond of nationalism for white gentiles, exhibit A: you.
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Are you retarded?