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Trump on Miley: " 'Sir, it's cheaper to leave the equipment than to bring it' ... That's when I realized he was a fucking idiot." (rumble.com)
posted 4 years ago by Gizortnik 4 years ago by Gizortnik +106 / -0
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– Gizortnik [S] 44 points 4 years ago +44 / -0

Although I will enjoy the Chairman of the JCS being called a fucking idiot for causing one of America's greatest military failures of all time...

And although I appreciate Donald Trump's stories..

I will note, Mr. President, you are the one who appointed him.

How did all those appointments work out for you?

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– TheModernDaVinci 41 points 4 years ago +41 / -0

How did all those appointments work out for you?

The only criticism I ever had of Trump was that he was abysmal at picking people. Which is honestly part of the reason I favor DeSantis, who has seemed much better at building out his war team with people who will actually go to bat for him (on top of him for all intents and purposes being "Trump with a Filter").

Also, funny story about Miley. My brother apparently met him while he was in the Army at some USO event in Iraq. He said that the first thing Miley did when he got off the helicopter was throw a fit because his unit was rocking their Texas National Guard unit patches, and he ordered them to don the "proper" 10th Mountain unit patches. This despite the fact that even though his unit was indeed 10th Mountain, they were in Ft. Polk, and that unit was tied to the Texas National Guard/36th Infantry at the time.

Then, while he was having dinner, he got seated at the table with Miley on one side and Gary Sinise on the other (apparently, because he was pretty smart compared to a lot of the other grunts, so they wanted him to sit with the 4-star General). While sitting there, they somehow got on a topic of army command, and Miley started talking about how there were bases he had been told to close down during the Obama cuts, and he managed to get around it by doing shenanigans moving units around and creating paper trails. My brother was being a good Specialist sitting there, nodding, and saying "Sir, yes sir." but the whole time he was thinking "This sounds very illegal."

So when I told him about how Miley apparently usurped nuclear authority in the final days of Trump, he just nodded and said "Yep, sounds about right."

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– Steampunk_Moustache 27 points 4 years ago +27 / -0

The only criticism I ever had of Trump was that he was abysmal at picking people.

How about the fact that he spent four years doing absolutely nothing to reign in silcon valley and the lying media? He sat there and allowed basically the entire high traffic portion of the English language internet to become a democrat-controlled area where conservative speech is simply not allowed.

OR how about the fact that he did absolutely nothing to stop BLM and Antifa from rioting up and down the country? He pointed out the communist threat maybe twice, and then just sat there and let it run riot.

He allowed states to just... not enforce the law.

Of course, a lot of this does come back to him being a fucking moron and picking people who were obviously not loyal to him, but still. He made no moves to get ANYTHING done on the culture war front.

And now Silicon valley and the media are so far gone that rigged elections are likely the norm from this point onwards.

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– current_horror 21 points 4 years ago +21 / -0

I'm not sure you understand what actually happened during Trump's first term. He was surrounded by traitors and snakes. They lied to his face, slow walked his every order, and conspired to remove him nonstop. He probably tried to do everything you wanted him to do, and the people around him just said "sure lol" or even "no lol".

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– elleand202 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That was Trump’s own doing. He failed to flush out the top level bureaucrats leftover from the Obama administration for several years. That’s something that every other administration does on day one when they take over from another party. Add in his inept selection of his own appointees, and that’s why he was surrounded by snakes and traitors.

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– krzyzowiec 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

How about the fact that he spent four years doing absolutely nothing to reign in silcon valley and the lying media? He sat there and allowed basically the entire high traffic portion of the English language internet to become a democrat-controlled area where conservative speech is simply not allowed.

What did you want him to do? The main thing I saw people requesting was the repeal of section 230, which Trump had alluded to himself, but that’s a double-edged sword. It would kill innovation on the internet. Forcing them to actually adhere to section 230 would have been a better idea, but how do you do that? They always claimed their content was selected by algorithms. They said they didn’t use white or blacklists in a congressional testimony.

Obviously they are liars, and I know that as a technical person, but it’s not easy to prove. Maybe there is a clever way to deal with the media and silicon valley through executive order, but I don’t see it.

OR how about the fact that he did absolutely nothing to stop BLM and Antifa from rioting up and down the country? He pointed out the communist threat maybe twice, and then just sat there and let it run riot. He allowed states to just... not enforce the law.

He wanted to send in the national guard, only problem is that this plays right into the narrative they were building of him being a Hitleresque authoritarian, not to mention the states that were burning at the time were rejecting his offer of support. They still tried to call him authoritarian when he sent in DHS to round up particular individuals that were part of Antifa/BLM into vans, but that was less visible so it didn’t catch on.

He avoided a trap there.

Of course, a lot of this does come back to him being a fucking moron and picking people who were obviously not loyal to him, but still. He made no moves to get ANYTHING done on the culture war front.

His picks had to be Senate confirmed. Many of them were not, or were harassed until they dropped out of the running. The ones that were, the swamp did not object to.

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– Auntie_Mildred 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

What did you want him to do?

Anything is better than nothing. If Trump had said "Twitter is fake news of the internet" and then shut his Twitter down and exclusively used Gab or some other platform, he not only would have dealt a blow to Twitter, he would have helped boost an anti-censorship platform.

Also, funny how pushing back and winning can't be done because it "plays right into their hands!"...

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– Steampunk_Moustache 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

What did you want him to do?

I wanted him to have twitter, youtube, google and facebook told in no uncertain terms that they either stop editorializing and removing content based on their own subjective politcs and morals, or they lose their 230 protection and are treated as the publishers that they so obviously are.

All we got was Zuck and Jack Dorsey grilled by Ted Cruz, and then... Absolutely nothing was done.

only problem is that this plays right into the narrative they were building of him being a Hitleresque authoritarian

FUCK. 'OPTICS'. Optics got GG nowhere, and it got Trump nowhere, for the exact same reason. It doesn't matter what he did or didn't do, they were going to compare him to Hitler not matter what. He's been out of office for a year and they're STILL comparing him to Hitler! What would they be doing if he had sent in the national guard? Comparing him to Hitler some more? See? Optics were worthless.

He avoided a trap there.

He avoided nothing. He fell straight into it. He fell into letting himself look weak and BLM/Antifa look strong, and as Bin Laden correctly said; when people see a weak horse and a strong horse, they will naturally favor the strong horse.

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– Gizortnik [S] 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

He said that the first thing Miley did when he got off the helicopter was throw a fit because his unit was rocking their Texas National Guard unit patches, and he ordered them to don the "proper" 10th Mountain unit patches.

UGHHHHHHHHH

That moment when the fucking CG is crying about fucking patches in fucking theater. Fucking Garrison monster needs to go back home where that shit means something.

While sitting there, they somehow got on a topic of army command, and Miley started talking about how there were bases he had been told to close down during the Obama cuts, and he managed to get around it by doing shenanigans moving units around and creating paper trails. My brother was being a good Specialist sitting there, nodding, and saying "Sir, yes sir." but the whole time he was thinking "This sounds very illegal."

Oh my fucking god.

I'm not even worried about the illegal part.

Those cuts were on purpose because of the enormous waste of resources and mission creep Iraq was becoming! The reason we were closing shit down (like the fucking Burger King in the Green Zone) was because it had nothing to do with getting the fuck out of Iraq, and was more likely to just waste resources in us staying there!

He's basically saying, "You know what's a good idea? Avoiding mission accomplishment!"

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– krzyzowiec 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Which is honestly part of the reason I favor DeSantis, who has seemed much better at building out his war team with people who will actually go to bat for him (on top of him for all intents and purposes being "Trump with a Filter").

DeSantis would have the same problem as Trump if he ever became President, which is that his picks would need to be confirmed by the Senate. Trump was maybe in a worse position due to the fact that he didn’t know the political scene well, but I don’t see how DeSantis gets out of the trap.

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– fauxgnaws 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

No, Trump's problem was he came from industry where he could hire anybody, give them a chance, and if they turned out to be idiots then fire them on the spot.

In politics you have to vet people years before they even get to your desk because they can't be fired. You need a network of trusted people to do that, and you need to know their embarrassing or compromising information so that nobody else can use them against you.

Trump could have been successful if he had a trusted VP, but Pence was either a snake or Trump didn't trust him.

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– icockmyglock 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The only criticism I ever had of Trump was that he was abysmal at picking people.

I don't disagree, but I want to point out that Trump went into the 2016 election cycle completely unprepared to be president.

It should be obvious to anyone by now that one doesn't just roll into the White House and assume control. The White House is literally a multi-trillion dollar corporation requiring huge networks of people to run. Trump didn't have the people with that correct expertise and connections to be able to weild his new found political authority....and it showed. Trump's choices were corrupt businessmen and lawyers that work well in commercial endeavors or political rivals in sheeps clothing.

I came away from the Trump administration with the distinct feeling that he had no concept of what it is to wield real power, nor did he understand the arsenal of legal organizations under his control. Upon inauguration Trump should have politically persecuted his political rivals, but instead it appeared that Trump was playing the "go along to get long" strategy and it back fired allowing his enemies times to organize against him. For that he needed both a FBI Director and US Attorney General willing to investigate and prosecute. He left an Obama appointee as his FBI Director and installed Sleepy Sessions who had no interest in investigating anyone. So, of course, no investigations with teeth were forth coming.

It's doubtful that Trump could have made any better choices since his appointees would require approval from Congress, which as we know was determined to toss away their unilateral control of the US government in order to spite Trump.

If all that wasn't disappointment enough I was thoroughly disappointed in Trump's promotion of the vax and his flip flop on the January 6th protests, it reeks of cowardice.

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– Baron_Bubbles 33 points 4 years ago +33 / -0

I will note, Mr. President, you are the one who appointed him. How did all those appointments work out for you?

If we learned anything from Trump being in office it's that everyone, EVERYONE, currently sitting in office is beyond corrupt and/or massively incompetent.

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– SparkMandrill83 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

Yea, its hard for me to blame Trump on this one. Who the fuck is there to appoint that isnt corrupt?

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– NigaroFagetsu-kun 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

There's 350m+ people in the United States. Just find one who's not an Israeli citizen. These appointed head gigs are jerkoff positions anyway. Yeah they have power, but in reality they actually need to know exactly fuck-all about the agency they're running. See: Admiral Levine

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– Adamrises 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

I really think Trump's biggest flaw is he expected some loyalty or integrity out of people, even just the very low bar you'd expect of those two from the business world.

And he failed to realize how literally everyone around him was broken, corrupt, and bought out. He was actually far more powerless as a president than he ever realized because he no longer could just buy people out (especially with every eye on him) while his opposition could.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

To be fair, he wasn't exactly the sort to show very much loyalty to others. I think it's shameful how little he's said about or done for his supporters sitting in prison for attending the 1/6 protest.

He could have randomly appointed people that bought something from his campaign merch store and probably have gotten a better group of people working for him. And more likely to take a bullet for him.

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– Adamrises 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

I won't disagree on that point either.

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– MK56 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I think his biggest flaw is selling us out to big pharma and the rothschild banking cartel. He's a zionist traitor.

He was groomed from a young age for this position and many still haven't realized that yet.

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– Adamrises 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

You'd think if they were grooming him from a young age to do it they wouldn't have waited until he was elderly and had wasted a long amount of time dinking around in the business world to finally enact the plan.

This line of thinking made more sense with Barry "appeared from nowhere at a young age for the job" Obama.

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– Gizortnik [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Zvi Zamir: "It's called 'Trump Steak'."

Golda Meir: "Are you fucking stupid?"

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– Gizortnik [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That's an insult to the Zionists to think that Donald Trump is what they would groom to be president.

What would a Zionist leader, groomed from birth to be a political leader look like?

Ariel Sharon? Sure, that makes sense.

Trump? ... Who the fuck ended up with that assignment at the Mossad? The Janitor?

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– Gizortnik [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I think he may have been genuinely powerless. It reminds me a bit of Priti Patel in the UK. She's all fire and brimstone, but the agency she runs literally refuses to listen to her or follow her orders. Without stronger political backbone in the Conservative party, she doesn't even have the power to fire them.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

Yeah these stories are always bittersweet because the unsaid end of each of them is always "and yet I didn't fire this person"

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– TakenusernameA 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

At this point, I think he didnt even pick them. The swamp forced them on him.

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