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Trump on Miley: " 'Sir, it's cheaper to leave the equipment than to bring it' ... That's when I realized he was a fucking idiot." (rumble.com)
posted 4 years ago by Gizortnik 4 years ago by Gizortnik +106 / -0
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– Steampunk_Moustache 27 points 4 years ago +27 / -0

The only criticism I ever had of Trump was that he was abysmal at picking people.

How about the fact that he spent four years doing absolutely nothing to reign in silcon valley and the lying media? He sat there and allowed basically the entire high traffic portion of the English language internet to become a democrat-controlled area where conservative speech is simply not allowed.

OR how about the fact that he did absolutely nothing to stop BLM and Antifa from rioting up and down the country? He pointed out the communist threat maybe twice, and then just sat there and let it run riot.

He allowed states to just... not enforce the law.

Of course, a lot of this does come back to him being a fucking moron and picking people who were obviously not loyal to him, but still. He made no moves to get ANYTHING done on the culture war front.

And now Silicon valley and the media are so far gone that rigged elections are likely the norm from this point onwards.

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– current_horror 21 points 4 years ago +21 / -0

I'm not sure you understand what actually happened during Trump's first term. He was surrounded by traitors and snakes. They lied to his face, slow walked his every order, and conspired to remove him nonstop. He probably tried to do everything you wanted him to do, and the people around him just said "sure lol" or even "no lol".

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– elleand202 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That was Trump’s own doing. He failed to flush out the top level bureaucrats leftover from the Obama administration for several years. That’s something that every other administration does on day one when they take over from another party. Add in his inept selection of his own appointees, and that’s why he was surrounded by snakes and traitors.

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– krzyzowiec 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

How about the fact that he spent four years doing absolutely nothing to reign in silcon valley and the lying media? He sat there and allowed basically the entire high traffic portion of the English language internet to become a democrat-controlled area where conservative speech is simply not allowed.

What did you want him to do? The main thing I saw people requesting was the repeal of section 230, which Trump had alluded to himself, but that’s a double-edged sword. It would kill innovation on the internet. Forcing them to actually adhere to section 230 would have been a better idea, but how do you do that? They always claimed their content was selected by algorithms. They said they didn’t use white or blacklists in a congressional testimony.

Obviously they are liars, and I know that as a technical person, but it’s not easy to prove. Maybe there is a clever way to deal with the media and silicon valley through executive order, but I don’t see it.

OR how about the fact that he did absolutely nothing to stop BLM and Antifa from rioting up and down the country? He pointed out the communist threat maybe twice, and then just sat there and let it run riot. He allowed states to just... not enforce the law.

He wanted to send in the national guard, only problem is that this plays right into the narrative they were building of him being a Hitleresque authoritarian, not to mention the states that were burning at the time were rejecting his offer of support. They still tried to call him authoritarian when he sent in DHS to round up particular individuals that were part of Antifa/BLM into vans, but that was less visible so it didn’t catch on.

He avoided a trap there.

Of course, a lot of this does come back to him being a fucking moron and picking people who were obviously not loyal to him, but still. He made no moves to get ANYTHING done on the culture war front.

His picks had to be Senate confirmed. Many of them were not, or were harassed until they dropped out of the running. The ones that were, the swamp did not object to.

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– Auntie_Mildred 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

What did you want him to do?

Anything is better than nothing. If Trump had said "Twitter is fake news of the internet" and then shut his Twitter down and exclusively used Gab or some other platform, he not only would have dealt a blow to Twitter, he would have helped boost an anti-censorship platform.

Also, funny how pushing back and winning can't be done because it "plays right into their hands!"...

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– krzyzowiec 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Using a different platform is a good idea, but it changes nothing about how Twitter operates. If you want to have something done with the media, you need something very specific to be effective, something that prevents them from altering content for political reasons but also preserves the 1st amendment.

It's trickier than you make it sound.

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– tobeornotto 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

If Trump had swithed to something else while he was president, it would have made that something else relevant, added hundreds of millions of users to it as even people who hated him were obsessed with reading his tweets, and that something else would today be a real competitir to twitter, if not already bigger.

A lesson for the next populist. Use establisment media / social media to get elected - then switch to a platform that's sympathetic to you and your followers once you have everyone's attention.

Yes you'll probably lose followrers at least in the short run, but you'll gain influence. And followers is just a number.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

What did you want him to do?

I wanted him to have twitter, youtube, google and facebook told in no uncertain terms that they either stop editorializing and removing content based on their own subjective politcs and morals, or they lose their 230 protection and are treated as the publishers that they so obviously are.

All we got was Zuck and Jack Dorsey grilled by Ted Cruz, and then... Absolutely nothing was done.

only problem is that this plays right into the narrative they were building of him being a Hitleresque authoritarian

FUCK. 'OPTICS'. Optics got GG nowhere, and it got Trump nowhere, for the exact same reason. It doesn't matter what he did or didn't do, they were going to compare him to Hitler not matter what. He's been out of office for a year and they're STILL comparing him to Hitler! What would they be doing if he had sent in the national guard? Comparing him to Hitler some more? See? Optics were worthless.

He avoided a trap there.

He avoided nothing. He fell straight into it. He fell into letting himself look weak and BLM/Antifa look strong, and as Bin Laden correctly said; when people see a weak horse and a strong horse, they will naturally favor the strong horse.

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– AJ_Prufrock 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I don't think you understand how a president is supposed to operate in the US. He's not a dictator or a king.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

And yet Biden has no trouble signing record numbers of executive orders.

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– krzyzowiec 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I wanted him to have twitter, youtube, google and facebook told in no uncertain terms that they either stop editorializing and removing content based on their own subjective politcs and morals, or they lose their 230 protection and are treated as the publishers that they so obviously are.

How is that going to happen? Who is going to enforce it?

FUCK. 'OPTICS'. Optics got GG nowhere, and it got Trump nowhere, for the exact same reason. It doesn't matter what he did or didn't do, they were going to compare him to Hitler not matter what. He's been out of office for a year and they're STILL comparing him to Hitler! What would they be doing if he had sent in the national guard? Comparing him to Hitler some more? See? Optics were worthless.

It was liberal cities that were burning, and they supported BLM/Antifa. So send in the national guard, where they aren't wanted, and what? Why do you think BLM/Antifa were protesting in the first place? It's not organic. They were paid to riot and destroy things exactly so Trump would go in with a military presence and provide the images for the media. You are trying to make the situation look simple when it is not. Trump offered support and the states rejected it. He's the President of the US, but he does not run every state.

He avoided nothing. He fell straight into it. He fell into letting himself look weak and BLM/Antifa look strong, and as Bin Laden correctly said; when people see a weak horse and a strong horse, they will naturally favor the strong horse.

Again, the only reason BLM/Antifa were there rioting was to entice Trump to crack down on them. Notice they aren't rioting now? What changed? Oh yeah, they don't want Biden to look bad. BLM only comes out every few years during election time, or sooner if you have a Trump that needs ousting.

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