Here let me put this through a translator for you. Wait this can't be right, this says "Taiwan #1, China big fat turd". We weren't even testing for that.
You mean like this sus-as-fuck 4 year old account which appears to be a guy with no comment history until 200 days ago at which point he became an apparent expert on PCR technology and then he said nothing ever again? https://www.reddit.com/user/Jakesister/
bots, paid shills, and stupid teenagers. Can't count how many times some idiot came on NNN just to call us the usual bullshit without any debate and saw they mainly posted in r/teenagers
So many users I put into that bot engine that can detect accounts that are bots or are being utilized to spam/shill came back positive for it. That shit will hopefully be Reddit's downfall.
I would go with that. There are way too many pushing vaccines, masks, fear, whatever that will say something like I saw yesterday "my grandma died from Covid last year, now I know several people who's kids have it and their families are worried about them dying. One of them is calling me with their kid in the ICU." How statistically improbable is that? So your grandma was one of the 1/500 of the US population that has died and you are close enough that they call you when their kid is in the ICU. Kids in ICU is definitely a lower stat than total death. Combine the chances and you get a person who's existence is lower chance than a lottery win. Yet you see these people all over the place.
It goes back decades. The schools and media have inculcated people from the time they can walk that leftist shit is cool and they are the underdog in some battle against “The Man.” They will accept any information from certain sources and have concluded that if anyone to their right has contradictory information it has to be false. Not only that the conclusion is wrong, but the information that forms the basis of the conclusion is wrong.
Now I see it as the greatest mistake ever, allowing the general population access to the internet.
So much this, it isn't even funny. I first got access to the Internet back in '95 when I transferred to a state university from community college. Between discovering Usenet and IRC, it was like a whole new world opened up in front of me. The amount of information that could be shared between people all across the world left me awestruck.
Then, as access became easier and easier, the discourse got worse and worse. The creators tried to make it more friendly for the masses, and in the process the masses just shit all over everything. The Eternal September that started two years prior to when I arrived continues, and at this rate it will never end until access is curtailed or a new Internet with more stringent entry requirements is created.
i don't know anyone local who even ever GOT covid, a few friends online claim they got it
i don't know anyone who had a serious case, certainly no one who died
i know 3 or 4 (one is uncertain, it could be vaccine tainted transfusion killed her) people now who died from the vaccine, and 2 more severely disabled now
every one of them an absolutely tragic story
but i guess vaccine injury deaths aren't allowed to be mourned or mentioned on reddit, only 'covid' deaths..
the compassion and tolerance of the left. wrong opinion. banned, died from something we don't want to talk about, banned/ignored
I had it but no chest cold. Got it in my eyes at jiu jitsu. My eyeballs hurt for a week, lost smell, in bed for 2 days. Been way sicker before from the flu / food poisoning though.
there is no such thing as asymptomatic cases, thats just a lie they told us to trick us into still remaining afraid when what was really going on is the tests didn't freaking work right
I know a few people who got it, felt a little down for a couple days and were fine. I also know an ~85 year old man with cancer throughout his body who caught it, and he pulled through just fine as well.
I know a lot of people who got covid, including me and my gf (we got it twice).
I don't personally know anyone who died from it, but my gf has a friend who lost a few family members from it (and also a teacher).
and even the less than 1% that are confirmed, were with the PCR test, which can't tell the difference between influenza A, B, corona, the common cold, covid19, or any variants
so the likelyhood your girlfriend was TOLD someone she knew died from covid.. is .. pretty low STILL, but measurable.. the likelyhood that she KNOWS that someone died from covid, is pretty much immeasurable, nearly 1 in 1million
we were all lied to, but if you checked the source data.. it was obvious it was a lie
Guess I'll chime in too. Same thing. I know several who had covid, including a 93 year old. All felt under the weather for a week, and then were fine.
Also strange that I can't name one public figure who died from it. With AIDS there was Freddy Mercury, Arthur Ashe, etc. You would think with all the "death and despair" happening that one notable person would have died.
Everyone I know personally who caught the coof bounced back just fine, including my 60+ dad. Every second hand story I've head about someone dying was someone who had comorbidities. Sad, but not something that could be stopped by destroying society.
Actually I knew a guy who got it last summer and died at 35 years old. They put him on a ventilator early and he never got off. I know another guy whose elderly dad died of COVID, but he also fell off his bed in the hospital and may have died of his injuries and other compounding factors (of course, his death certificate gives one attribution). And I met a guy whose aunt died of COVID.
How could we have been "brigading", if we have all been banned everywhere?
What a bunch of fucking morons. They ban us, so we create our own space. Then they brigade that space. Then they accuse us of brigading, and shut it all down.
Exactly, this was my reply to the reddit admin after reading their reasoning post explaining the ban, i also loged out and remove it from my boookmark.
What about other sub banning people for posting in NoNewNormal, this is obviously brigading, it was going on for a while and nothing was being done.
Am saddened by the way things are heading here.
You dont bear the right to forcefully impose your ideology on us and silence us, we are in a democracy. Labelling us covid denier is just wrong and childish, this community was about alot more than just covid.
I thought I read that if they read any "anti vax" comments in other subs, they counted that as brigading. I think the mods mentioned it when they got their first warning before the quarantine.
You know, I usually don't use language like this, but lately it's fucking ridiculous how shit people are.
So I agree fully with your sentiment.
They are incel losers who are a product of the participation medal in USA society, they think they are special and deserve special treatment, when in fact they are lower than mediocre.
They have never tried to work and yet expect everything handed to them.
Commenters were talking about a Reddit IPO. I don't know anything about it, but is there's anything we can do to affect the company's value, other than all leaving?
Yep. Any alternative site created that attempts to respect the original spirit of the internet pre-iphone era and crosses a certain threshold of popularity experiences attacks on multiple fronts:
Influx of hostile accounts posting offensive/hate/glowie material which quickly overwhelms any moderation efforts and adds to revenue overhead
Mass ddos attacks which forces admins of said site to purchase expensive ddos mitigation from woke/konverged ddos mitigation providers, adding even more overhead costs
If above two aren't successful in making the site go dark, a coordinated barrage of hitpiece articles (ala "Gamers are dead") from all the usual suspects (see gab's wikipedia entry for a nice example)
If the admins/staff of said site keep up the good fight, then the undermining/co-opting of the staff begins by covert radicalized woke ideological individuals with no lives (aka n8thegr8)
Site's financing/funding is attacked by woke banksters
Site loses ddos protection because woke ddos mitigation provider says it promotes violence/hate/misogyny/whatever other communist logic justification
Influx of organic, well intentioned new members slows to a trickle thanks to the above factors. Admins are worn down by the constant attacks on multiple fronts and fold up shop.
even if we were denying covid existed.. which were not, it is a supporting arguement, it is our right to do so, and it doesn't break their bullshit rules
but ya the sub wasn't even about that, it was about not changing our entire way of life, not taking away all of our rights because of a virus with an admittedly low death rate
now that they banned it and .. apparently 54 other subs, they can just push their spin and no one is even allowed to argue against it, you don't get to see both sides, you don't get to see reasons, they just make up lies and bullshit up silence people off their platform.. disgusting assholes
we put up with thousands of brigading trolls in our sub for the entire existence of the sub, but they fake a framejob brigade behind a PRIVATE SUB wall and they ban the sub instantly, none of us even ever got to see why, because we can't see the private sub, and we can't see our banned sub..
“Community members [of those high signal communities] act in good faith when they see “bad” content…” Guys, we live in a different world now. It’s time to match our work with that reality. Where cult behavior can not and should not be endorsed, validated and spread in the name of Reddit policy or first amendment rights. THIS IS NOT THAT HARD Hate speech has already been defined to not be included with free speech and neither is/should be speech (an expression of an “opinion”) that includes willful medical negligence; the kind that does get people killed.
So your definition of a healthy sub is all well intentioned sure, but members of these high signal communities are no longer doing what’s right, and then falsely hiding behind “I have a right to my opinions.” Again, because cults. It just cannot be clearer.
Wtf is "hard hate speech"? Lol
These morons can't see that they're the ones in a cult.
There's maybe 5% of posts on that thread that are reasonable intelligent people trying desperately to stay within the ever shrinking allowable thought zone.
Those people posting are obviously quite intelligent. Which makes me wonder why on earth are they still on reddit and posting against the hive mind?
Lessons can be learned from this and used to identify future red flags. This situation was thought to have been placated with last weeks announcement but the admins did a 180 and initiated the ban.
Oh look, a post full of doublespeak where all the top visible comments are powerusers.
Hmm...
If I were to, once again, look into the background of the top posters how many do you think I would uncover to be part of a marketing firm or bots?
I still remember back when I got banned from r/politics for pointing this fact out. It's only gotten even worse since then.
Hilariously enough there's people in the comments section of that archive saying how great r/politics is and how they definitely don't do what they're accusing others of.
KiA is a neo-nazi recruitment forum. Somebody forgot to tell the tranny jannies, I guess. Too busy stuffing shit into each other's front holes to realize.
And r/conservative is a hideous and destructive entity that is the cause of all life's woes. We support free speech, of course, but they don't so ban them.
If we look in the buried comments we find a few callous for Reddit's double standards on brigading and "interference." They allege that NNN was responsible for multiple campaigns, without evidence of course, but those subreddits that privated specifically to push Reddit to ban NNN are a-okay!
Oh, and spez is a right wing nazi... somehow? Fuck if I know.
I'm sorry, I couldn't understand the post. I can't read simplified chinese.
Here let me put this through a translator for you. Wait this can't be right, this says "Taiwan #1, China big fat turd". We weren't even testing for that.
Sir. here's your gold.
https://ibb.co/RTT7Xdj
Why do you think some people can see this and others can't?
I truly believe the majority of "redditors" now a days are bots and paid shills.
You mean like this sus-as-fuck 4 year old account which appears to be a guy with no comment history until 200 days ago at which point he became an apparent expert on PCR technology and then he said nothing ever again? https://www.reddit.com/user/Jakesister/
You crazy conspiracy theorists.....
bots, paid shills, and stupid teenagers. Can't count how many times some idiot came on NNN just to call us the usual bullshit without any debate and saw they mainly posted in r/teenagers
So many users I put into that bot engine that can detect accounts that are bots or are being utilized to spam/shill came back positive for it. That shit will hopefully be Reddit's downfall.
I would go with that. There are way too many pushing vaccines, masks, fear, whatever that will say something like I saw yesterday "my grandma died from Covid last year, now I know several people who's kids have it and their families are worried about them dying. One of them is calling me with their kid in the ICU." How statistically improbable is that? So your grandma was one of the 1/500 of the US population that has died and you are close enough that they call you when their kid is in the ICU. Kids in ICU is definitely a lower stat than total death. Combine the chances and you get a person who's existence is lower chance than a lottery win. Yet you see these people all over the place.
If that helps you sleep at night. Personally, I have not lost faith in the boundless stupidity that is the human race.
Or they are just part of the cult. For anybody in the cult, the hivemind we observe is just "normalcy".
Some of us have studied history.
The rest are leftist morons.
It goes back decades. The schools and media have inculcated people from the time they can walk that leftist shit is cool and they are the underdog in some battle against “The Man.” They will accept any information from certain sources and have concluded that if anyone to their right has contradictory information it has to be false. Not only that the conclusion is wrong, but the information that forms the basis of the conclusion is wrong.
A combination of IQ, upbringing, and ever changing environment.
In other words, most people are too stupid, too docile, too slow to see changes in a historical perspective, and various combinations of those.
My family was one of the first 100,000 on the internet in the US.
I thought it was going to save the world and educate everybody. We would all walk into the future together.
Now I see it as the greatest mistake ever, allowing the general population access to the internet.
So much this, it isn't even funny. I first got access to the Internet back in '95 when I transferred to a state university from community college. Between discovering Usenet and IRC, it was like a whole new world opened up in front of me. The amount of information that could be shared between people all across the world left me awestruck.
Then, as access became easier and easier, the discourse got worse and worse. The creators tried to make it more friendly for the masses, and in the process the masses just shit all over everything. The Eternal September that started two years prior to when I arrived continues, and at this rate it will never end until access is curtailed or a new Internet with more stringent entry requirements is created.
It was a great idea in theory. I learned too late just like many others that our "information age" was really a "misinformation age".
Fucking hell I remember SOPA. when the whole of the Internet was against authoritarian takeover and collectively gave our betters the finger.
Little did we know that it was all a ploy by google and social media giants to oust the ISPs and take power for themselves.
I remember users organizing on Usenet to protest the formation of ICANN...
I think at some point we'll need to get an app based on Usenet and nntp...
From the post:
Excuse me? No one I've ever met personally has died from COVID. Only People I've heard passing away with it were all 80+
i don't know anyone local who even ever GOT covid, a few friends online claim they got it
i don't know anyone who had a serious case, certainly no one who died
i know 3 or 4 (one is uncertain, it could be vaccine tainted transfusion killed her) people now who died from the vaccine, and 2 more severely disabled now
every one of them an absolutely tragic story
but i guess vaccine injury deaths aren't allowed to be mourned or mentioned on reddit, only 'covid' deaths..
the compassion and tolerance of the left. wrong opinion. banned, died from something we don't want to talk about, banned/ignored
I had it but no chest cold. Got it in my eyes at jiu jitsu. My eyeballs hurt for a week, lost smell, in bed for 2 days. Been way sicker before from the flu / food poisoning though.
You only know you got if you got tested for it. Now most cases were asymptomatic but if you had symptoms you probably just think you had a bad cold.
there is no such thing as asymptomatic cases, thats just a lie they told us to trick us into still remaining afraid when what was really going on is the tests didn't freaking work right
Wat
I know a few people who got it, felt a little down for a couple days and were fine. I also know an ~85 year old man with cancer throughout his body who caught it, and he pulled through just fine as well.
I know a lot of people who got covid, including me and my gf (we got it twice). I don't personally know anyone who died from it, but my gf has a friend who lost a few family members from it (and also a teacher).
over 99% of 'deaths involving covid' are PRESUMED, according to the CDC's own data
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/
not causal, and not confirmed
and even the less than 1% that are confirmed, were with the PCR test, which can't tell the difference between influenza A, B, corona, the common cold, covid19, or any variants
so the likelyhood your girlfriend was TOLD someone she knew died from covid.. is .. pretty low STILL, but measurable.. the likelyhood that she KNOWS that someone died from covid, is pretty much immeasurable, nearly 1 in 1million
we were all lied to, but if you checked the source data.. it was obvious it was a lie
Guess I'll chime in too. Same thing. I know several who had covid, including a 93 year old. All felt under the weather for a week, and then were fine.
Also strange that I can't name one public figure who died from it. With AIDS there was Freddy Mercury, Arthur Ashe, etc. You would think with all the "death and despair" happening that one notable person would have died.
Everyone I know personally who caught the coof bounced back just fine, including my 60+ dad. Every second hand story I've head about someone dying was someone who had comorbidities. Sad, but not something that could be stopped by destroying society.
I know several people who got it personally, including an elderly cancer survivor. All were fine.
Actually I knew a guy who got it last summer and died at 35 years old. They put him on a ventilator early and he never got off. I know another guy whose elderly dad died of COVID, but he also fell off his bed in the hospital and may have died of his injuries and other compounding factors (of course, his death certificate gives one attribution). And I met a guy whose aunt died of COVID.
It happens. So do car accidents, of course.
The official reason is that NNN was “brigading”. I have no doubt that anyone merely mentioning another sub was used as “evidence” for brigading.
Meanwhile, there were dozens of subs that were banning all NNN members merely for being NNN members, and this was never considered “brigading”.
This is just more evidence that leftism is a mental disorder.
How could we have been "brigading", if we have all been banned everywhere?
What a bunch of fucking morons. They ban us, so we create our own space. Then they brigade that space. Then they accuse us of brigading, and shut it all down.
What a bunch of fucking morons.
Exactly, this was my reply to the reddit admin after reading their reasoning post explaining the ban, i also loged out and remove it from my boookmark.
I thought I read that if they read any "anti vax" comments in other subs, they counted that as brigading. I think the mods mentioned it when they got their first warning before the quarantine.
meanwhile ahs posts child porn in subreddits they don't like and nothing happens to them
Brigading was defined by the faggot as "interference" and being a sort of negative outside influence on another sub.
Under their own definition all of those large subs that went private to get NNN banned are guilty.
Will reddit faglords acknowledge this? You bet your ass they won't.
Yeah but that would look bad on them. They HAVE to spin it so they're in the right. No exceptions.
They're communist traitors.
You know, I usually don't use language like this, but lately it's fucking ridiculous how shit people are.
So I agree fully with your sentiment.
They are incel losers who are a product of the participation medal in USA society, they think they are special and deserve special treatment, when in fact they are lower than mediocre.
They have never tried to work and yet expect everything handed to them.
All they need to say is we have an agenda. Well, I guess that is what they said but with a lot of bullshit.
Their only argument seems to be "many people complained".
What a fucking stupid argument. Fuck these people.
Same comments the cops made to me when harrassing me for walking around my own neighborhood at night.
Exact same thing they complain about when it's one of their special groups that they "shouldn't be persecuted".
Commenters were talking about a Reddit IPO. I don't know anything about it, but is there's anything we can do to affect the company's value, other than all leaving?
Yep. Any alternative site created that attempts to respect the original spirit of the internet pre-iphone era and crosses a certain threshold of popularity experiences attacks on multiple fronts:
Influx of hostile accounts posting offensive/hate/glowie material which quickly overwhelms any moderation efforts and adds to revenue overhead
Mass ddos attacks which forces admins of said site to purchase expensive ddos mitigation from woke/konverged ddos mitigation providers, adding even more overhead costs
If above two aren't successful in making the site go dark, a coordinated barrage of hitpiece articles (ala "Gamers are dead") from all the usual suspects (see gab's wikipedia entry for a nice example)
If the admins/staff of said site keep up the good fight, then the undermining/co-opting of the staff begins by covert radicalized woke ideological individuals with no lives (aka n8thegr8)
Site's financing/funding is attacked by woke banksters
Site loses ddos protection because woke ddos mitigation provider says it promotes violence/hate/misogyny/whatever other communist logic justification
Influx of organic, well intentioned new members slows to a trickle thanks to the above factors. Admins are worn down by the constant attacks on multiple fronts and fold up shop.
Post cuck porn on all the leftist subreddits
geez 'covid denial'
even if we were denying covid existed.. which were not, it is a supporting arguement, it is our right to do so, and it doesn't break their bullshit rules
but ya the sub wasn't even about that, it was about not changing our entire way of life, not taking away all of our rights because of a virus with an admittedly low death rate
now that they banned it and .. apparently 54 other subs, they can just push their spin and no one is even allowed to argue against it, you don't get to see both sides, you don't get to see reasons, they just make up lies and bullshit up silence people off their platform.. disgusting assholes
we put up with thousands of brigading trolls in our sub for the entire existence of the sub, but they fake a framejob brigade behind a PRIVATE SUB wall and they ban the sub instantly, none of us even ever got to see why, because we can't see the private sub, and we can't see our banned sub..
Wtf is "hard hate speech"? Lol
These morons can't see that they're the ones in a cult.
Reddit! Reddit! Reddit!
All this site talks about is faggot-ridden Reddit. Just like how all CNN talks about is Fox News. Fucking pathetic.
Don't allow yourself to be defined by your enemies.
i.e. Grow the fuck up and move on.... this is sad.
I love the fact that despite everything the most upvoted post is calling for the firing of steve huffman.
Amazing.
"He's not oppressing us hard enough! REEEEEEEEEEEE."
"We think this one sub was breaking the rules, so we're going to ban a viewpoint that they had across the site."
They realize that most of their audience is too stupid to see through this.
There's maybe 5% of posts on that thread that are reasonable intelligent people trying desperately to stay within the ever shrinking allowable thought zone.
Those people posting are obviously quite intelligent. Which makes me wonder why on earth are they still on reddit and posting against the hive mind?
Accuse thy enemy of what I'm doing.
Why the fuck does everyone here obsess over what the fags at Reddit are doing?
This is fucking pathetic.
Lessons can be learned from this and used to identify future red flags. This situation was thought to have been placated with last weeks announcement but the admins did a 180 and initiated the ban.
Why not? Free and open discussion is important even if you personally disagree with it.
The left doth protest too much. I consider it a good sign. Their whole paradigm is about to end and I think they can feel it.
Oh look, a post full of doublespeak where all the top visible comments are powerusers.
Hmm...
If I were to, once again, look into the background of the top posters how many do you think I would uncover to be part of a marketing firm or bots?
I still remember back when I got banned from r/politics for pointing this fact out. It's only gotten even worse since then.
Hilariously enough there's people in the comments section of that archive saying how great r/politics is and how they definitely don't do what they're accusing others of.
KiA is a neo-nazi recruitment forum. Somebody forgot to tell the tranny jannies, I guess. Too busy stuffing shit into each other's front holes to realize.
And r/conservative is a hideous and destructive entity that is the cause of all life's woes. We support free speech, of course, but they don't so ban them.
If we look in the buried comments we find a few callous for Reddit's double standards on brigading and "interference." They allege that NNN was responsible for multiple campaigns, without evidence of course, but those subreddits that privated specifically to push Reddit to ban NNN are a-okay!
Oh, and spez is a right wing nazi... somehow? Fuck if I know.
Let the new "reddit" be called the Swartz and be a true champion of freedom.