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SURVEILLANCE STATE: “Identify and Disrupt” Bill will Give Australian Authorities Access to Any Citizen’s Social Media, Email Account Without Consent; Allow Them to Add, Delete Information and Send Messages (www.thegatewaypundit.com)
posted 4 years ago by Skywise 4 years ago by Skywise +120 / -0
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– Lurker404 57 points 4 years ago +57 / -0

Aussies have internalized prison mentality. They don't have citizens and public servants. They have inmates and wardens.

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– dzonatan 44 points 4 years ago +44 / -0

Sloth, Decadence, Apathy and Cowardice.

Too lazy to try harder. Too hedonistic to be aspiring. Too Indifferent to care. Too scared to resist.

The saddest part is when they laugh at you while they put on their horse-collar.

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– Knife-TotingRat 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

It's like the perfect way to pre-adapt a species to becoming companion slaves and zoo denizens to a technologically superior species.

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– bamboozler1 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Been watching The Orville, lol? That's uhh, literally a plot from the first season, amusingly...

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– dzonatan 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_collar

In polish we call it Chomąto and its mostly used in context of putting it on someone and treat them like a work horse.

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– ArtemisFoul 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Heh. In Czech we call it Chomout and it's used to mean a man got married - Vlezl do chomoutu. I've been to a wedding where they did it literally after the ceremony.

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– dzonatan 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Sounds just about right xD

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It's like a human collar, but for horses.

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– KekistanPM 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

Weak people create hard times.

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– Forgiveme 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Worse

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– yeldarb1983 25 points 4 years ago +25 / -0

Welp. I can cross Australia ooff my list of places I'd like to visit...

Remember this is what they do to their citizens, I'd hate to think what they do to aliens...

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– SR388-SAX 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

Remember this is what they do to their citizens, I'd hate to think what they do to aliens...

Depends. If you've got a passport and have money, you'll probably be treated like a resource pinata. If you're brown, don't speak English, and have no identification, they'll wave you on in.

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– yeldarb1983 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

If you're brown, don't speak English, and have no identification, they'll wave you on in.

...and shove you in a factory for slave wages, while claiming it's for your own good, no less.

Sorry, don't mind me, The American Left has made me cynical on the left in general...

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– dizzle_izzle 20 points 4 years ago +20 / -0

Omg Australia is fucked

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– DNA1 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

I gave up on them after the Christchurch shooting authoritarian debacle.

Them always being afraid of anime titties didn't help either.

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– bamboozler1 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The first one was mostly NZ, to be honest... We were already at that point nearly 25 years ago, so... They didn't need to do that to us (so much). But yes, the perp was Australian, so I'm sure they used that to justify increased surveillance over here, too, lol...

The second one is very much "us", though, lol... "Salacious material", and all that jazz...

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– CptLightning 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

and Send Messages

So, Aussie feds can get into your social media and email and send out the Christchurch video and manifesto to everyone you know? Then use that to justify throwing you in jail for spreading hate? Astounding

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– AbleistSL 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

I strongly recommend you switch emails on sites that will not comply with these demands and also to utilize VPN's that will refuse to comply.

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– subbookkeeper 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

It does create an interesting defence though. Presumably there is now always reasonable doubt as you can claim that your fedposting, was literally, a fed posting.

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– bamboozler1 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I mean yeah, but then they'll just throw you in a closed court and charge you with literally whatever they like, somewhat like a court martial...

Look up Bernard Collery and Witness K, if you wish to see how truly fucked we are, regarding things such as, uhh, the right to a fair trial, or just... The rule of law, and international spying, right now, lol...

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

"We sent an email legal summons for them so they could present that defense, but it looks like they viewed the email and deleted it mere seconds after it was sent, so we must conclude they're in contempt of court atop the charges."

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– Steampunk_Moustache 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

So in other words, any Australian not using Tor or Zeronet for social media is a retard.

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– pertivi 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

"Any citizen's social media"

Yeah i am sure the folks on freespeechextremist / 8ch / kiwifarms / tutanota and the likes will quickly jump and give full access to Australian authorities. Glad when moronic politicians push dissent out of their reach .

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– Maskurbator 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Is violence the answer yet?

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

No, academically speaking.

Violence is "the answer" in about four generations of continual oppression if trends continue. That's historically how long it usually takes for an oppressed group to get sick of their oppressors. You need people who not only know nothing but oppression and hate, but whose entirety of living memory is oppression and hate. A willing slave is willing. Their children may resent it, but will be tempered by that upbringing. Their children in turn will have stories of the rose-colored nostalgia of their grandparents of the few "good" jailors and slavers, and want to assess the impact of each person. Only one more generation beyond that would be able to dehumanize enough, untrained, to kill enough. Otherwise a like-minded and/or like-blooded just takes over.

So assuming humans don't manage to collectively swallow tide pods, 2100 with a continuous increasing oppression trend is about when the answer is violence.

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– NotAGlowy 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Hard to believe a great journalist like Julian Assange ever came from Australia

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– bamboozler1 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

We're not all good little sheeple... Just most of "us", lol...

Somehow I think I may just be the most radical person I know, now, against all this... But there's a few of us on these forums, so that, if nothing else, at least gives me a bit of hope, lol.

Brb, moving to Ecuador, ha... Unironically though, I probably would, if I could even leave the fucking country... :-/ Or just anywhere that isn't ANZ... :-S

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– bamboozler1 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Straight from Wiki: > "In April 2018, a proposal to empower ASD to collect intelligence on Australians was backed by Minister for Home Affairs Peter Dutton, but is strongly opposed by some in Cabinet who argue it is not necessary. Under legislation, the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO) and the Australian Federal Police (AFP) are already allowed to seek assistance from ASD in conducting investigations on Australian citizens and businesses."

Also, their slogan is "Reveal their secrets ... Protect our own".

Oh, you thought "they" referred to foreign powers, or like, international terrorists..? Ahaha sorry citizen, "our" means your friendly neighbourhood government. It's YOUR secrets we're after. Tah.

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– barwhack 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Invalidate fraudulent futures by yoinking them...

Time to abandon social media entirely. And let all interested parties know that you did; encouraging all to Do Likewise. Interact with REAL people; on the sly if you have to. The secret handshake is coughing on each other: share germs like the True Believer cannot.

Then sit back and watch the schutzstaffelis wank each other virtually - in your name - and you laugh at them.

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– bamboozler1 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Sigh I wish I didn't know this, but... NZ's surveillance state is completely minuscule compared to Australia (which is outsize, for the actual size of our population), as is their military. As a result, I'm not sure they would be stupid, or at least competent enough, to turn their military on their own citizens, like Australia has...

I've met a former New Zealand, let's say, spy... While obviously he couldn't really tell me anything much, it was fairly apparent that NZ just... Doesn't quite fear its own citizens in the same way Australia does. Or at least they didn't, a few years back. And again, from talking to him, it was immediately obvious that the technology their navy has, for example, is way, way behind "us"... So that was enlightening.

But the other thing is that Australia has a MUCH higher level of immigration than NZ, and always has had. Where do most of those immigrants come from, right now? Fucking China and India, plus South Sudan to a lesser extent.

Do those new immigrants, in their hundreds of thousands, care about the massively increasing surveillance state, or the fact that whatever "freedoms" they imagined Australian society might bring are rapidly disappearing..? Lol, are you fucking kidding me??

Finally, while NZ superficially appears to be more "feminist" than Aus, right now, I'm not so convinced it is... Maori society is one of the most patriarchal and aggressively... Warlike, in the world. Traditionally at least, they don't have a terribly high tolerance for umm, let's say modern "intersectional" Western feminism. So that, at least to some extent, provides somewhat of a counter to becoming full "Jacindastan"... Whereas in Australia, there are so few full-blooded Aboriginals left, and they are so... Thoroughly demoralised, amongst other points, that this same "counter" just doesn't exist, I suppose...

That's my take, from wondering about this for the last 18 months, anyway.

However the Northland funeral thing, where the man wasn't allowed to be part of his own wife's funeral (last week, I think)..? That's more fucked than even what we have in Australia, rn, IMHO...

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