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'Journalist' Walter Bragman shut up by Glenn Greenwald over reopening schools (i.imgur.com)
posted 4 years ago by AntonioOfVenice 4 years ago by AntonioOfVenice +80 / -0
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– Ahaus667 54 points 4 years ago +54 / -0

Where are the kids dying choking in the ICU? Everyone keeps saying hospitals are full, the funny thing is they’re not full due to Covid. They’re full because people have been refused proper healthcare for over a year. My (soon to be former) hospital has 208 beds, 13 Covid patients.

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– raven0ak 40 points 4 years ago +40 / -0

and remember that hospitals also were so full in america that field hospitals and hospital ship stood empty all of time until ship left and field hospitals were taken down, completely unused

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– ClownTamer 24 points 4 years ago +24 / -0

A lot of this has been people narrating things that go on all the time that people weren’t aware of. Any time I’ve been to an ER at night, I’ve always been there for 11 hours just waiting to get in because it’s full and all the others are full. You can’t even make appointments within a month sometimes because everything’s always booked up and full. That shit’s always been like that. If we deregulated a lot of it, someone would just pop up and do it better, but they can’t because we haven’t.

With the deaths, you could narrate the estimated flu deaths every year and how they occur and the narrative would be the same.

If dying of Covid or going to the hospital with Covid was as common as people make it sound online, everyone would know many, many people at this point that have done one or more of those things. Most people I know don’t even know anyone that’s gotten Covid, and this is more than a year out. I know 2 people that had it verifiably, and they both said it was like a cold that lasted a couple days, then they went about their life as normal and had worse flu’s in the past.

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– current_horror 20 points 4 years ago +20 / -0

Leftists have learned that the word "crisis" allows them to ignore the Constitution, conduct fraudulent mail-in elections, and unilaterally install their communist agenda. So now everything is a "crisis", including shit that has existed for decades. ICUs have always been at or over capacity. Many tens of thousands of people die of flu-related disease and illness every year. But now these things are "emergencies" requiring a total transformation of our society as dictated by our political and technocratic elites. Nevermind the fact that these people were trying to implement all this bullshit for decades before anyone had ever heard of covid-19. If you think they're manufacturing these "emergencies" as pretext to do what they've always wanted to do, you're paranoid and probably a terrorist.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Leftists have learned that the word "crisis" allows them to ignore the Constitution

When did they not do that? You mean it makes it easier for them to ignore it without pushback or consequence.

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– Ahaus667 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Income tax, fiat currency, federal reserve, social security, and internment camps all came about due to “crisis”. “Crisis” as it is commonly used today is based off of Marx’s verbiage of economic crises.

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– current_horror 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I clearly meant in terms of actual policy. No one cares what leftists do in their bathrobes in front of the mirror.

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– ClownTamer 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I can’t personally take anything from that side seriously anymore because they run the same plays over and over again. Once they declared racism a public health crisis and threw climate change in there and all else, I actively can’t listen to it. My mind zones it out like a toddler crying.

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– Tourgen 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Spot on about deregulation. Universal healthcare just means time is used to ration healthcare instead of money.

Also, I believe the stat is more people have died to the vaccinations than to COVID in the under-65 age group. Of the COVID deaths, something like 80% had 4 or so co-morbidities.

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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0
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– ClownTamer 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I’d actually be fine if someone here illegally did not receive treatment. I don’t have anything against them in most ways but if you’re going to break into someone’s house then at the very least they’re not required to tend your wounds and pay for it themselves. It’s seemingly better to be here illegally in many ways. That’s not right. If someone broke into my house and tripped and split their head open I’m not sure I’d be in a hurry to call the ambulance. I get there being exceptions for children that were basically trafficked here by their parents.

People come here illegally from all over but I actually love legal immigrants most of the time and most of my friends are immigrants. I’d be cool if we streamlined and refined the immigration process, but that’s going to mean that we take the best and brightest and those willing to respect rules and America, which aren’t the kind of immigrants people pushing for open borders are hoping to let in. I don’t even mean patriotic folks, just anyone that wants to come here and work hard and be respectable and not do things that send you to jail. Prioritize those that demonstrated success in their own country. Bar’s pretty low.

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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0
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– ClownTamer 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I’m cool with them getting busted in exchange for being stabilized.

My area has a lot of folks using the ER as a GP, mostly homeless folks. They get free health insurance too, they just don’t want to go through the proper channels so they show up to the ER. One time I was there, one came back and threatened to sue because someone threw away his friend’s stuff that he left in the ambulance. It was a paper bag filled with garbage. That’s like 25% of our ER’s out here.

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– icockmyglock 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Well, no where, but can you imagine it?!? Statistically, people under 20 have more to worry about driving to school than being harmed from covid.

I think I'm ok with a virus that slightly increases the mortality of older people. Anyone that gives a shit should be able to offset that by working to become healthier.

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– deleted 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0
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– KekistanPM 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

"13 covid patients! That's huge!!! That just proves you're underestimating the problem!"

-- People who have no sense of proportion or critical thinking

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– TentElephant 28 points 4 years ago +28 / -0

This was the perfect opportunity to close the schools permenantly and pay the teachers to stay at home where they can never harm another child, but instead the republicucks are fighting over the minutiae of their operation.

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– Galean 23 points 4 years ago +23 / -0

I kind of understand, a lot of households no longer have stay-at-home moms and they have no option. But yea, homeschool if you can afford it. It would heal so many problems in todays society.

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– Assassin47 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

Federal government gives schools money per student.

Maybe they should be giving US money to hire private tutors in the home.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Those households, while unfortunate to not have that option, can speak to a neighbor who does have that option and is willing to bear the load of a second child to educate, in such a no-school system. Maybe toss the stay-at-home a couple bucks for their trouble.

If some are notably competent stay-at-home exists, maybe they can take on four or five. Get a small building put aside for it, if it won't be large enough in their house.

Since it is home schooling, we can call it a school-house. This stay-at-home paid to teach the half-dozen kids can then do so for even a handful more.

If this sounds like the existing system... You're wrong. First, I said "notably competent" and the current system does NOT prioritize that. And second, it's all elective and privately run, with each parent choosing exactly which teacher teaches their children.

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– Tourgen 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

They have the option. It would mean sacrificing their lifestyle. People used to live in houses 1/3 the current average size, own a single car.

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– M1919A2 21 points 4 years ago +21 / -0

Yep. Should have been pushing school voucher/choice programs this past year.

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– KekistanPM 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Seems more like the perfect opportunity for home schooling...until the swamp is worried kids won't get indoctrinated as much and they start regulating it out of existence.

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– DoctorFauci 23 points 4 years ago +23 / -0

It's always: "I know somebody that has lost loved ones to Covid".

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 18 points 4 years ago +18 / -0

"Alas, my dog's playdate's groomer's wife's second-cousin's tax accountant's hairdresser's great-grandfather's bridge buddy died from an illness which beared some resemblance to a coronal virus!"

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– Assassin47 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

My dad works at Nintendo.

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– bangbus 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

My friend’s uncle worked at Nintendo. He had Mario 3 before it was released but because of an NDA the uncle signed my buddy could not let us play Mario 3 or even see the cartridge or box until the release date. This uncle did not get along with my friend’s parents so no one was ever allowed to mention the uncle in the presence of his parents.

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– CaptainRon77 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Came to make this exact comment. Well done

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– icockmyglock 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

True. I know several people who have lost friends and family, mostly because I don't have lots of friends or family. But I also personally know people who have had covid and have survived.

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– SparkMandrill83 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Ive never heard even that, no from friends, family or coworkers.

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– Jackedmate69 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I had an extended family member pass away from “covid”. I’m more certain it was due to health malpractice. I don’t think you’re supposed to put someone with the flu on a ventilator right away.

Unfortunately everyone thinks it was big bad covid, but if you ask family about the details it doesn’t make any sense.

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– DarkEnergy 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Typically, men follow statistics and data while women follow emotions and sad stories. I will follow data. Facts may not be comforting, but they won't lead you astray.

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– APDSmith 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Right up until the science becomes so politicised that it's no longer possible to trust the figures...

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– TakenusernameA 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Hospitals are supposed to overfilled, because otherwise they arent profitable.

The news took something normal and turned it into hysteria.

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– buildabear 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Walker doesn't even have kids but wants to decide what they do, when and where they do it.

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– TheWestYearZero 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Two people arguing over what is best for kids when neither of them should be anywhere near children.

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Says the gay with a gay, negro family.

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– firstones 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

To be honest "do you even have kids?" is the equivalent of feminists saying "you cannot legislate my pussy"

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– deleted 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

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