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What if white utopia but... RACISM?? (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 4 years ago by rattleS 4 years ago by rattleS +67 / -0
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– current_horror 54 points 4 years ago +54 / -0

We need to coin a phrase to describe when leftists accidentally create based content because of their own disconnect from normal morality/reality.

A few good examples of this phenomenon:

  1. commie retard Alan Moore attempting to caricature far-right ideologies in the form of Rorschach in Watchmen

  2. lefty retard Amy Poehler attempting to caricature anti-government libertarianism in the form of Ron Swanson in Parks and Rec

  3. Insane weirdo Alec Baldwin attempting to caricature capitalism run amok in the form of Jack Donaghy in 30 Rock

  4. Recent depictions of Red Skull as an anti-immigration alt-right public figure in comics

In all of these stories, the "evil right wing idiot/monster" ends up being the coolest, most rational, most reasonable character. Lefty creators tried to make them ridiculous or immoral, but left-wing morality and ideology are so inverted and antithetical to reality that all of their depictions of "bad guys" end up unintentionally based.

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– Norenia 43 points 4 years ago +43 / -0

I'm still trying to figure out how Rorschach was "written," as I'd only ever seen the movie, only to totally go WTF hearing about those "white supremacist Rorschachs" in that godawful series.

But Red Skull has quite possibly been the biggest example. Because those writers used EXTREMELY VALID "reasoning" in his "evil speeches." It was literally at the point of "if anything he has said in this speech is supposed to be considered evil, then I'm fucking evil, Hail Hydra."

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– Oppressinator 37 points 4 years ago +37 / -0

"Work out, physically improve yourself!" - evil speech

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– GimmeFuelGimmeFire 27 points 4 years ago +27 / -0

It was hilarious when they tried to smear Jordan B. Peterson by linking him to Redskull.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I will go own. Some more sample "white Christians": https://farcry.fandom.com/wiki/Eden%27s_Gate_Assault

Now tell me who were the "invading anitifa thugs", name the names.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

And no, "Seedy ends up nuking the world for fucking with his country, right" is also some bizarre fanfic that you spend time writing instead of playing the game, or even watching someone play it or reading anything about it.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Didn't play the game, did you? Here are your "white Christians": https://farcry.fandom.com/wiki/Eden%27s_Gate_Defender

And their enemies weren't "antifa thugs" too.

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– ghostfox1_ 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

I'm still trying to figure out how Rorschach was "written,"

In the graphic novel, he was a psychopathic killer who was a massive conspiracy theorist who turned out to be right about most things (though obviously not in others).

He also basically said he wouldn't save leftist shitholes from being leftist shitholes, and that they deserved the consequences of their actions.

So...yeah.

But also he was one of the best characters because he had convictions, and stuck to them, even to the point of dying for it.

Worth noting, the graphic novel also had a giant eye ball tentacle monster as the thing Ozymandias did, not a bomb.

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– Decrixxx 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

13 minutes video tha Archcast talk about this. good stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHaJa1lugTg

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– Steampunk_Moustache 32 points 4 years ago +32 / -0

commie retard Alan Moore attempting to caricature far-right ideologies in the form of Rorschach in Watchmen

This really is the #1 example. Because if you take 100 people and ask them who the good guy in Watchmen is, I guarantee the majority of them say Rorschach.

Moore wrote something beloved by millions, but sent the complete opposite message that he intended.

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– Kaarous 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0

Just like Animal Farm. Orwell was a commie. A full blown socialist who fought for the bad guys in the Spanish civil war. What he thought he was doing was writing a critique of Stalinism and specifically only Stalinism. It was purely by accident that Animal Farm has arguments against leftist ideology as a whole.

Leftism has always been marked by both hypocrisy and a profound lack of self awareness.

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– BrainJuice 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Orwell would be hated by the modern left for his disdain towards authoritarian governments though. He was complex, whereas modern socialists are simpletons.

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– when_we_win_remember 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

They do it every time they go all "not real socialism"

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– SupremeReader 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

No, it's wasn't "purely by accident".

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– SupremeReader 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Orwell was a socialist but he never was a communist. The communists tried to kill him in Spain.

Animal Farm goes far beyond Stalinism. For example, the inspiration for these pups being taken away to be raised as vicious dogs? It was under Lenin, namely the Chekists of Dzierżyński recruiting orphan boys.

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– SupremeReader 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Except Orwell was never a Marxist at all.

Also the disgusted Orwell about the English socialists circles in 1930:

“One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words ‘Socialism’ and ‘Communism’ draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, ‘Nature Cure’ quack, pacifist, and feminist in England.”

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– SupremeReader 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That's like #metoo, I also wasn't ever a Marxist at all when I was a leftist.

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– ghostfox1_ 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

And Moore can never figure out why.

It's fucking hilarious.

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– rattleS [S] 18 points 4 years ago +18 / -0

Maybe we should call it "accurate strawman".

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– Minarchist_Manlet 18 points 4 years ago +18 / -0

Not necessarily accurate, but ideal.

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– Ricky_CIA 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

The Platonic Strawman.

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– Shill4Hire 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

A Strawman is what they were hoping for, a Steelman is purposefully making the other argument unbreakable. So a Needleman or a Rodman would be Strawman that, upon closer inspection, is a Steelman, wouldn't it?

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– altmehere 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

examples

Another recent one:

I would hardly call Watch Dogs Legion "based" with its pro-commie allegory, but the beginning of the game displays absolutely no self-awareness in the extent to which the villains are exactly like them. The news media even covers up the truth by labeling it a conspiracy theory.

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– GuardianGI 33 points 4 years ago +33 / -0

In skyrim leftists like to side with the imperials, who let thalmor agents kill Talos worshippers and who view other races as lesser beings only meant to be subjugated and exterminated, but since the stormcloaks shout "Skyrim belongs to the Nords" and slighty mistreat other races then "THATS WAAAACIST!" Also dat Ulfric Stormcloak speech on self-determination:

Ulfric: "I fight for the men I've held in my arms, dying on foreign soil. I fight for their wives and children, who's [sic] names I heard whispered in their last breaths. I fight for we few who did come home, only to find our country full of strangers wearing familiar faces. I fight for my people impoverished to pay the debts of an Empire too weak to rule them, yet brands them criminals for wanting to rule themselves! I fight so that all the fighting I've already done hasn't been for nothing. I fight... because I must."

I wonder how differently the leftist would react if the nords were replaced with redguards (black race in skyrim) wanting to free themselves from the white devils and the evil colonial (Roman) Empire?

Also leftist like to use the "GOTCHA" letter from the embassy where the thalmor captured and interrogated Ulfric Stormcloak and think that he is a thalmor plant when it is super obvious from the letter that he is uncooperative and the thalmor would like a prolonged civil war to weaken both the empire and skyrim and not a quick Nord unification under a strong Nord ruler.

That being said I have 0 faith in Elder scrolls VI and Bethesda will probably make the Dragonborn join the Imperials as canon, even though it will not make no sense since dragonborn are more in line with the Nords and Ulfric strongly respects the Graybeards and nord traditions. It being the current year Bethesda will probably make a retcon on how Ulfric was a coward and and died a traitors death or something.

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– Norenia 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

people impoverished to pay the debts of an Empire too weak to rule them, yet brands them criminals for wanting to rule themselves!

Watch this become EXTREMELY relevant.

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– GimmeFuelGimmeFire 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Hey, I think I've heard this one before!

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– ailurus 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

That being said I have 0 faith in Elder scrolls VI and Bethesda will probably make the Dragonborn join the Imperials as canon

In the past, Bethesda has done a good job in the Elder Scrolls games of spacing things out enough so that there's no real decisions from the previous games impacting the future games. See the Nerevarine just vanishing and then Morrowind blowing up, or the Warp in the West.

In this case, though, I'm not sure. Even discounting the politics, what they've done in Fallout has majorly soured my opinion of them. Given their apparent massive boner for "everything must have Brotherhood of Steel, all the time!" I could easily see that being translated into "There must always be an Empire!".

The logical continuation of the storyline, though, is the Empire disintegrating (regardless of Ulfric), and then TES VI being rebuilding something from the ashes of it. Somerset, Valenwood and Elsewyr are under the control of a hostile, foreign power. Hammerfall got abandoned by the Empire. Morrowind is in chaos and ruins following the eruption and Argonian invasions. And Black Marsh was never really that integrated with the rest of the Empire to start with and broke off to do its own thing following the Oblivion crisis. That leaves the "Empire" holding:

Cyrodiil - still recovering from the Thalmor invasion High Rock - a historically problematic province full of power-hungry nobles Skyrim - in open revolt

Even if Ulfric gets put down hard and Skyrim fully bends the knee, the Empire is doomed.

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– Assassin47 26 points 4 years ago +26 / -0

Yep I remember thinking exactly the same thing with Infinite. (didn't play Wolfenstein) Also the story is just bad, and the writers couldn't help themselves from making it worse. They could have shown actual racism just with the whites subtly oppressing the blacks and treating them like slaves. But no that wasn't enough, the whites have to pummel blacks to death for sport to show how EEVUULL they are. They never explained why everyone was so bloodthirsty. At least it made sense in Bioshock 1. (heavy drug use)

To be fair the black people in Columbia were also terrible. It's like the writers just didn't know where to go with their strawmen so the scenario just kept getting crazier and crazier as it got closer to the end.

But yes you could show an actual utopia to an SJW and if it didn't have the ethnic makeup of the inner city they would say "Eh, it's ok but kinda lily white don't ya think?"

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– Gideon-Syme 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Bioshock Infinite is massively overrated in general. The story breaks away from the key elements of the other games, which is CHOICE. Your actions had an impact on previous games, but you can do absolutely nothing to alter Infinite. It’s a narrative downgrade for a series that delivered the Andrew Ryan moment. Also, Infinite’s dimension hopping is way too convoluted and makes all of your actions kind of irrelevant. Why should I give a shit about the world I just jumped too that has entirely different people?

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– ThrowawyASAP 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The only good thing to come out of Bioshit Infantile is Rimworld.

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– w-duranty6489 20 points 4 years ago +20 / -0

Because leftists believe utopias actually work.

Right wing statism bad, because right wingers were in power. If only leftists were in power, the dictatorship would be better.

Crack more eggs for the socialist omelette.

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– MrEvangelon1 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

That picture looks like a Mormon paradise.

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– OBRIENMUSTSUFFER 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Wrong, if it were a true Utopia they wouldn’t let black people in in the first place.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

God I didn't need to be reminded of the shitshow that was Infinite.

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– Featherless_Biped 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I had that exact thought when I played this recently. Columbia is a fucking paradise, it looks exactly like I would picture a White ethnostate to be. Even Comstock makes some excellent points about the negro having to be civilized before having a seat at the table with the White Man. Then the globohomo degenerate comes and fucks it all up, it's depressing.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

the globohomo degenerate

It's your way to describe an apolitical Pinkerton detective who once fought the Indians?

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– krzyzowiec 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

What game is this? Can I join the other side and stop the resistance?

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– Kienan 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

It's BioShock Infinite. Concept art, I believe.

As for picking sides, I don't remember. Don't think so though, but don't quote me on that.

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– Assassin47 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

No. You must be against all sides. They don't give you a choice.

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– SupremeReader 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

You later fight the anarcho-communists too. Who are shown as terrible.

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– SupremeReader 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Also watch this video (to the end) to answer your question: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JiqUS6kYyJ8

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