What would your major examples be of shows that started of well but then became woke or pushed the usual "trendy" agendas? The first one that comes to mind for me would be Westworld. The first season was amazing, and the second season wasn't so bad, but I stopped watching after a few episodes of the third season when the one lady took out a criminal organization and then didn't kill the boss of the organization because she respected a woman in power.
If I were to bet, I would say this next season of Stranger Things will really sideline the four guys and star the shoehorned lesbian chick. The last season was the last I was going to watch because it seemed to turn into another girl power show.
I know it is a movie but I thought Logan was a good movie but the more I think of it the more I realize that was the first example I saw of the trend of the man dying and passing the torch to a much better female. I can see the new Indiana Jones movie doing that.
The Simpsons? It was always a bit shaky but tolerable, but now it's unwatchable trash.
Other than that, nearly everything on Netflix fits the bill. One series without women's agenda then full "kill all men".
I’m 40 and have been watching the Simpsons since it came on. Well always have the golden years of 90s Simpsons
I still can't believe they had an episode about The Squad.
Surprised Family Guy hasn't followed it down the toilet.
I haven't seen Family Guy's latest stuff but I'm pretty sure they did follow it down the toilet. Several years back Seth McFarlane announced he'd stop making gay jokes to be more sensitive or whatever, and we all know that never ends well. I watched his movie Ted for the first time a year or two ago and remember thinking how much was in there that would get him called called all kinds of -ists now. 2012 was a completely different time. They certainly have enough to cancel him if they're ever inclined to do so.
Your comment made me think about just now sudden all of this feels. 8 years isn't a very long time, but the entire media landscape is completely changed from 2013. It feels like the Marxist cultural revolution happened overnight.
Some Family Guy episodes have mocked the left surprisingly. The right gets mocked too but he has made fun of woke nonsense. I honestly wish CBS gave him Star Trek. Orville wasn’t bad.
And to think they used to mock the kind of people they now pander to.
They used to mock everyone, gently. They finally found their audience.
That’s true.
I'm similar to you, but I think the Simpsons was perfectly good well into the 2000s. Maybe not as good, but still better than most other TV.
It really didn't get bad bad until TDS set in. It was crazy watching it happen. It was like the entire writing staff heard their mkultra activation phase simultaneously. I still don't understand how humans can change modes like a robot, but they can. I've seen it.
True. I enjoy quite a few episodes in the 2000s. Even this past season had some good ones. TDS definitely affected it.
I used to watch The Simpsons for many years. However at some point (a few years ago) they had a couple of woke trash episodes back to back, e.g. the stereotypical "girls can do computers too" story. That was it for me. Never looked back.
It's actually kind of funny how quickly it became irrelevant. Right up until the female doctor, I could barely use the internet without hearing whovians discuss the intricacies of their bad on purpose sci fi. But as soon as she stepped onto the screen, nothing. I haven't heard anyone talk about it since.
I know I shouldn't celebrate failure, but I can't help but feel smug about how the embrace of leftism instantly annihilated a show that endured for half a century. Maybe they'll come to their senses and rescue it, but I highly doubt it. They'd rather execute The Doctor in the town square than admit their divisive evil is divisive and evil.
At least with Capaldi they could say "ok, the writing sucks, but he's doing a great job with what he's given!". Can't say that about Jodie Whittaker.
Doctor Who died once before.
Then it literally regenerated and somewhat took the world by storm.
Although I'd argue a lot of that was built on the good work of Christopher Eccleston, David Tennant, and Russel T Davies instead of Steven Moffat (he started the downfall as far as I'm concerned), but my point still stands.
I loved the first three doctors of Nu-Who. They respected the classic doctors as well. Loved the Tom Baker Cameo in the 50th anniversary movie since he is my favorite doctor. Cap also wasn’t bad but once he got the “I’m a lesbian everyone” companion I was in and out and stopped for good after the first few Jodie episodes
Not sure it would be a Prime Example, but Walking Dead went from a really fun zombie apocalypse show about a father trying to save his son, with excellent cinematography, to CW diversity quota quality.
Tell me about it. I stopped watching in 18. I said I’d finish the comics and be done. Comics have a strong father ending which was a pleasant surprise
I stuck it out until they offed the kid. I was mostly rubbernecking at that point. I just got so bad. Honestly, I hadn't really enjoyed the majority of it since S6, but I trudged on in hopes of another Nebraska episode.
My bad.
I still think about that one episode from season 4. The one with Carol and the two little girls. That shit was haunting. Looking at the show now, it's insane how far it has fallen.
That episode was around the time I stopped watching.
Right around when they actually arrive at The Terminus.
It started going downhill after the second episode. I quit when it turned into a chick flick in the farmhouse.
EVERYONE IS GAY!!!
Based.
I only watched the first season of Billions and it wasn't that bad. After one episode of season 2 with the "they/them" character I felt like the handwriting was on the wall and put it on the backburner.
Actually season 2 is the best season and the woke shit is fairly minimal throughout iirc. Taylor is cringey as fuck but she isn't central to the major plot lines until season 3 iirc. (which is when I stopped)
Doctor Who, Arrow, Westworld, Warrior, The Expanse, Into The Badlands, Black Sails, Young Justice, Iron Fist....
Stranger Things was watchable in S1, although it was never great. Afterwards it was nothing but Girl Power bullshit.
Even Seal Team went that way a bit in S4, which really annoyed me, because it was so good up to that point.
I was going to watch black sails but someone told me it wasn’t worth it. Iron Fist seemed to fold to pressure.
What happened to Seal Team? Fighting white supremacy or something?
There was a completely unnecessary story arch about sexual harassment in the Navy, which served no purpose except to distract from the characters and stories that everyone actually watches the show for.
Oh yeah I'm sure there's a ton in the SEALS
Fuckin A
I still think Black Sails is worth watching. It is a good show first with top notch acting and production values. The progressive messaging makes sense in the context of the story and setting and, at least imo, doesnt feel forced.
I was going to mention Young Justice, I own the bluray for season 3 but I havent even watched it yet because of all the politics. Still bothered by aqualad being bi, the main part of his primary arcs in the previous two seasons revolved around his love for aqualass. Hell, he loved her so much, her death was a strong enough reason for basically everybody, even his best friends and teammates, to believe he would turn on the Justice League and join up with his villain father.
But hey, if you make him bi you can ignore that and just pretend it was always a part of his character, it just never came up before now. Also having a time jump between every season is annoying. It's just a lazy way to skip having to build up your new characters and storylines.
It's definitely true for Westworld. The first season was very good, but the 2nd was pretty bad even if it didn't seem to add in too many progressive elements. I didn't get around to watching the 3rd season at all.
Game of Thrones as well. I enjoyed the 1st season. 2-4 were good too, but I think I stopped watching partway through the 5th just because I didn't want to bother any more.
Doctor Who probably counts too, but I haven't seen any of it and just know what others have said.
Yea I stopped watching doctor who a few episodes into the female doctor. I said I’d give her a chance despite the fact it was done for no reason but pandering but the “cosmic white supremacists” episode was the last straw.
With Game of Thrones I think if GRRM had finished the show would’ve turn out much better
On another note, The Expanse started from an incredibly woke possible premise, but just told its story without a lot of forced wokeness. It's there in spots, but not in a Netflix "Holden needs to peg Kamal every other episode" sort of way. That one has been fairly refreshing.
I've started soliciting anti-recommendations from lefty coworkers. If they are hype about something, it's usually terrible.
The Mentalist.
For those not familiar with it, it's a show about an expert cold reader whose family was murdered by a serial killer. So he starts working with the police as a consultant to help them solve crimes all the while trying to catch the serial killer who killed his family. Like a much darker version of Psych or any of the other Sherlock Holmes style detective shows out there.
But there's this one episode (4-21, "Ruby Slippers") where the case of the week involves a bunch of drag queens. I remember watching that episode late at night and I was falling asleep and the whole thing just felt so out of place like a bad dream. It was no longer a show about a guy tracking the serial killer who murdered his family so he could get revenge. It was no longer a show about some expert helping the police solve crimes in his own way. And it wasn't an episode to pad the season. It felt just like it was a "very special episode" that existed for the sole reason of presenting a social justice message. It's been so long since I watched that show (and I never finished the last season) so I can't say the whole show went woke, but that episode did.
He hadn't caught the guy that far into the series? Did he get close a bunch of times?
The good news is he does catch the guy. The bad news is the show keeps going from there.
There was all kinds of conspiracy stuff going on as to who the real killer was like there was a big secret cover up. Really crazy shit. The show wasn't that bad for what it was but that particular episode really stood out.
Rick & Morty. Seasons 1&2 were great. In season 3 the original writers went woke and started hiring female writers with little experience just for the sake of having female writers. Not surprisingly they started pushing woke stuff.
NCIS and its spinoffs. They were pretty good for quite a long time. However all three series had a woke push at the same time. Within a few episodes of each other they all replaced white, usually male, characters with black, usually female, characters. At the same time they also had a bunch of other lefty story arcs along the lines of evil internet trolls attacking stronk female politicians and Muslim terrorists are just misunderstood.
Do the Deadpool movies count as a show? The first one was one of the best movies ever. 2 was a total woke cringefest.
These days everything either starts out shit or inevitably turns to shit. Which is why I barely watch anything recent.
Yea the only fanbase more annoying were Bronies. "Luckily" the new writers were so bad that viewership declined and the fans appeared to sober up quickly. IIRC the sauce thing was season 3, too.
Season 4 and 5 are pretty decent though, maybe they ditched the female writers.
I hated Deadpool 2. The fucking ending...
Ugh. I told the person that asked me to watch it with them that they owe me two hours of my life back.
Killjoys started really good but season 3 went into the toilet. It was bad in itself but might have been watchable if they didnt shoehorn in homos every other ep.
The 100 had 2 amazing seasons then 3 onward focused solely on the "badass women" and of course some box munchers.
Agents of shield season one was meh but 2-4 were good. But again shifted more focus on the women as the writing quality dropped. 5 having cringe woke "now you clap" lines and 6 the awful woke trope of using time travel to early/mid 20th century US to lecture about how racist and sexist everything was. Umbrella academy did the same thing season 2.
2 seasons seems to be the lifespan for a lot of shows until the writers "finish" the original premise and either rehash, go off the rails, and usually add woke elemts.
I am so sick of the time travel thing. It’s always to the same time to tell that racism is bad. Because it’s not like we haven’t heard that before.
If im watching a show alone i nope out the moment race is brought up. The exception is Black Lightning which is so woke that it horseshoed around to becoming an exploitation series. And even that one i 30 secind skip occasionally if the dialoge slips into lecturing.
That is the problem. Companies seem to be too greedy and dont really have or they lose their primary demographics. Games were awesome because for a long time, the demographics were aged 10 to 24 males (asian and white).
Now games try to push for all demographics and sacrifice large chunks of its largest demographics to pander to literally less than 1% of the population.
The TV show version of The Mist was really bad from the beginning and only got worse. I loved the story growing up and liked the movie as well and was excited that they had made a show based on it. But there was one redditor-type character who was just insufferable. The real horror was what they did to a once decent story. I'd give more examples but I don't want to spoil it for the masochists out there who would still watch it anyways.
I mean I could point to every horror movie ever made. The schtick of the “final girl” is literally just guys running off to save whores until the killer gets tired and a Mary Sue walks up, stabs him, and then runs away screaming.
Star Trek.
Star Wars.
Adventure Time.
I have a comic that shows Finn and Princess Bubblegum in a romantic relationship fighting off the apocalypse, and that was approved by Pendleton Ward.
Then the woke nonsense came and it went from being goofy adventures with some adult undertones to real serious commentary about the future of our species and how Marcy and PB are ssoooooooo kkkkkkuuuuuttteee
Pretty good example of how media switched from being primarily for kids (with adult stuff to tide over more crowds) to the man-baby “now we’re grown up” generation. I’m ashamed to own that Adventure Time comic now, but I keep it as a reminder of what could have been.
West World
Season 1 is incredible.
Season 2 is Tessa Thompson's White Genocide fantasies.
Season 3 is completely unwatchable.
Tessa Thompson is annoying. The fact she plays Valkrie is ridiculous. In season 2 I thought the Native American storyline was interesting but the show has a major drop off after season 1
Season 3 was pretty bad, but some of the ideas about AIs fucking with the lives of individual humans to get a desired outcome for humanity was dark. We do have Google and Facebook in the real world...
I can't recall at the moment because it would've been way earlier than Westworld. I do remember wokeness rearing it's head in Westworld S2, along with the other examples of stupid writing. (Dolores becoming a Mary Sue. The Man in Black being destroyed.) And perhaps this isn't an example of what you're talking about, but S2 had very little female nudity but no problems with waving dongs in everyone's face. People online were saying it's because #metoo happened between S1 and S2. I didn't subscribe to HBO for dongs.
Suits was promising but turned into a sniveling beta chasing after his oneitis over a few episodes. There were some other interesting characters but they couldn't save it.
All major franchises are pretty much destroyed at this point. Loki is the most recent character assassination.
The Blacklist, started strong and then went like the x files and started sputtering around like Joe Biden
The Umbrella Academy
Hearthstone. Started playing as a young teen and liked the interesting gameplay and polish, and over time the problems started rolling in. They changed cards to pander to the woke (less boobs, sexist!) and the Chinese (no skeletons). The competitive scene was gutted and made less interesting (many good players left, or got cancelled, and poor players were shoehorned in for diversity). Meanwhile, different aspects of the UI radically shifted while gameplay kept gaining more and more bugs. They just ran out of good card ideas too. Right now the best new cards are just stat sticks or full clears that are too cheap. And the game takes too long to gain enough to feel rewarded