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NPR thread deboonking "the model minority myth" (twitter.com)
posted 5 years ago by SupremeReader 5 years ago by SupremeReader +54 / -0
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– tryyttt 46 points 5 years ago +46 / -0

Every time I hear the term "model minority" it's always coming from leftists reeeing that we Asians break their idea that minorities can never do well. Conservatives only point out that it's our culture of two parents and discipline that helps us do well.

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– w-duranty6489 25 points 5 years ago +25 / -0

Every time I hear the term "model minority" it's always coming from leftists reeeing that we Asians break their idea that minorities can never do well.

You should ask them if jews are a "model minority" or if they are white. ;^)

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– LesboPregnancyScare 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

You should ask them if jews are a "model minority" or if they are white. ;^)

That is great, because there are some choice responses you can make either way they answer yes/no

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– deleted 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0
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– LesboPregnancyScare 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

What I was thinking: if jews are white then white people have experienced systemic racism and extermination, AKA; lolercaust

If jews are not white, then white people are not disproportionately in positions of power.

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– deleted 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0
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– Steampunk_Moustache 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

You have black immigrants coming to America and doing what the Asian immigrants did.

Yeah, the Ghanians, Guyanese, South Africans.... Basically any black group that arrived in the 20th century and beyond behaves nothing like the slave descendents who arrived in the centuries beforehand.

If I was a successful black immigrant from one of those groups... I would be TERRIFIED of my child growing up and identifying with the slave-descendents and absorbing their culture.

It happens in Britain, of all places, you fucking know it is happening in the US.

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

It's the opposite of the slave degenerate effect. It being fairly hard to immigrate here from Africa means that you get the most ambitious Africans. Whereas the slaves were bred to be compliant, among other things.

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– deleted 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0
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– Steampunk_Moustache 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Seriously. I have never heard the term 'model minority' from anyone but a leftist, and I have never heard it followed by anything but a complaint about how its a flawed concept and blah blah blah.

It was probably said by conservatives once upon a time, but I'd be surprised if it was at any point in the last 30 years.

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– abrownlooter 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Seems like something that was or would be used by racists today. Or used by people to point out racist thinking.

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– HisHolyMajesty2 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

"model minority"

You're American loyalists. That's why they hate you.

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– DNA1 32 points 5 years ago +32 / -0

Well, they're right about Asian Americans being heavily discriminated against. Wonder when they'll get around to fixing that in academia and corporate diversity quota initiatives...

Oh, right, this is about "hate crimes", aka yet another tool to push authoritarian agenda under the guise of 'justice'.

They linked to a polling PDF and 1st paragraph of 'Methodology':

The results of this report are based on a survey of 2,766 US residents, ages 18 and over, conducted online between March 29 to April 14, 2021 by Savanta Research.

I jumped around and didn't really read it but they're talking about residents, not necessarily citizens / green card holders AFAIK. Article doesn't cover the influx of 'residents' per H1B visas either... Would be racist I guess.

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– AntonioOfVenice 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Savanta is a fast-growing data, market research and advisory company

Interesting.

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– w-duranty6489 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

literally a marketing company

LMAO

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– A2BS 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Bad methodology, AND a low sample size? Must be a liberal debunking study!

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– AntonioOfVenice 26 points 5 years ago +26 / -0

So if it's a myth, why do you support discriminating against Asians?

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– Gizortnik 28 points 5 years ago +28 / -0

"Asians aren't the Model Minority, they are actually highly discriminated against."

"BY. YOU."

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– Fmantothemaxagain 23 points 5 years ago +23 / -0

Lol, they're using the British definition of Asian, including Indians and Pakistanis etc. News flash, in America, when people say "Asian", they mean almost exclusively East Asian, Japanese, Korean, Chinese. So yeah, if you start mixing in a bunch of other groups, including Pacific Islanders, you're going to end up with different results from the people only thinking about East Asians.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

U.S. demographic data has been counting Indians, Pakistanis and even Pacific Islanders as Asians in the U.S. for atleast three decades.

The U.S. has gotten into the mindset of dividing everyone into neat little boxes of White, Black, Asian, Hispanic or mixed.

To see how people classify Asians, look at cities like Cupertino, CA that have a high amount of Asian Americans. In these cities, Indians, Middle Easterners and Pacific Islanders all are classified as Asian.

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– Knife-TotingRat 24 points 5 years ago +24 / -0

We used to distinguish with the word "oriental", and Asian meant East Indian, but somehow "oriental" is racist. Because it recognizes that there exists more than once race in Asia.

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– Adamrises 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

but somehow "oriental" is racist

Unless its about food somehow. Its perfectly fine for even corporate grocery stores to have oriental sections for all the Asians, but we can't skip the middle man and refer to them by the fact they come from the Orient.

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– SophiesBoyfriend 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Using the word “oriental” is racist.

But somehow fucking stealing a university position from an Asian kid who earned it and giving it to a black kid that didn’t is OK!

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– Adamrises 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

U.S. demographic data has been counting Indians, Pakistanis and even Pacific Islanders as Asians in the U.S. for atleast three decades.

The US demographics and stats also counts Latinos as White, yet if you asked 90% of the population they would be a separate box. Same with Asians and Arabs and Indians.

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– ZodShael 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

They still put them in the same group. I know a few pakis who were bitching about not being able to go to med school because too many Chinese/Japanese were enrolled.

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– the_nybbler 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

MYTH #1: Asian Americans are a monolith

Nobody believes this. Non-racists know the difference between Vietnamese, Thai, Chinese, Indian, Korean etc. Actual racists distinguish gooks from chinks, japs/nips, dotheads, etc and somehow they can even tell the difference between the Hmong and Kinh.

MYTH #2: Asian Americans are high earners

Not actually a myth, if you take it the way a normal person would, as referring to group averages. Median household income is about $68K for 2019 (numbers aren't in for 2020); most Asian-American groups they show, and all the large ones, are comfortably above that.

MYTH #3: Asian Americans face less discrimination

Less than what? This myth don't grammar.

Hate crimes against Asian Americans have spiked during the pandemic.

Yeah, but enough about black people.

MYTH #4: Asian Americans are fairly represented

Ooh, there's that term 'fair'. In a majoritarian system, you can't expect proportional representation for minorities. This myth is meaningless.

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– w-duranty6489 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

"Model minority" is a leftist invention. Of course it's a myth, it's leftist propaganda.

It's like "Latinx" user deboonks "Latinx".

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– Skywise 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

So... race is a choice that flattens diverse experiences... gender is a choice that flattens diverse experiences...

But sexual attraction is locked in at birth and can never be changed.

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– deleted 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0
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– Benevolentdictator 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

CBC and NPR must subscribe to the same "propaganda starter pack" service

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– A2BS 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Am I not wrong in seeing this as a self-own? Nearly every myth they give is provably true GIVEN THEIR OWN DATA. It’s a myth that AA households get more money, but every ethnic subset of Asian is above medium income except 3 (and one of them is Pacific Islander, which is arguably Oceania and not Asia) with some of the larger groups nearly doubling the median. It’s a myth that Asians immigrate correctly, but here’s a graph that shows 50% of illegal immigrants are Mexican and even the larger ethnic groups don’t even make up 5%

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– reidj 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Looked through it. Response point for point.

  1. Yes, Asia's a big place with lots of people in it. Thanks for pointing that out.

  2. You didn't place the average American on that chart, so it's useless. Show us how they compare to the benchmark, then we'll talk.

  3. Your table doesn't support your conclusion. What it shows is "There are 7 Hispanic illegal immigrants for every Asian illegal immigrant".

  4. You have not included information about the racism or discrimination any other group faces, so you've failed to show Asians face less.

  5. Fine, but how many of them are running? When they run, how often do they win?

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– A2BS 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0
  1. They give in the paragraph that the median American household income is $66k, which kinda shows outright that they’re wrong in labeling it a myth, given nearly all but 3 small ethnic groups (one of which is arguably not Asian) are above the median.
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– Smith1980 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I hate this term. It’s just liberals mad because minorities don’t fall for the “I’m a victim nonsense”. Some African immigrants also do very well in America. Who would’ve that that valuing education and a loving/involved mother and father could make such a difference

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– SupremeReader [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

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